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Title: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Tank on January 09, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
Twitter, Instagram and Facebook have permanently banned Donald Trump.

Good idea, bad idea?

I'm vexed, because while I agree with the idea of banning the tangerine turd I'm not sure it is ultimately a good thing for unelected commercial organisations to wield that sort of power. How would I feel if they had banned Joe Biden?

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 09, 2021, 10:33:20 AM
Quote from: Tank on January 09, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
I'm vexed, because while I agree with the idea of banning the tangerine turd I'm not sure it is ultimately a good thing for unelected commercial organisations to wield that sort of power. How would I feel if they had banned Joe Biden?

Same.

It's a new age, and social media already are important political players just like traditional media are, although in different ways. I'm betting that, like their more traditional counterparts, these social media platforms will eventually diverge into pro-left and pro-right and people will flock to whichever suits their ideologies.

(Maybe Twitter, Instagram and Facebook didn't like that Trump called his accounts "Trump media" and finally banned him on that account.  :deadpan:)     
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 09, 2021, 04:42:37 PM
I agree with their actions. As far as Biden potentially getting banned, all he has to do is break their rules. They ban a lot of people, and the chump is only one of many, albeit a high profile one. The chump got away with it only because of the office.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: billy rubin on January 09, 2021, 05:24:50 PM
its a private company and nit charged with public trust.

if someone told me i had to allow trump to say anything he wanted in internet forum no matter what id be resiatant.

freedom of speech in america is an issue only with government institutions. trump is free to start up a sicial media pkatform of his own at any time

i would rather see 100 percent identical treatment of everybody on a private social platform. trump should have been banned years ago when he violated their terms of service
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Recusant on January 09, 2021, 05:59:17 PM
I agree with billy rubin. There are already alternatives in place for people who feel a need to spew malicious disinformation and promote fascism. In my opinion, using government power to force private companies to modify how they deal with goons like Trump is in itself repressive.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Sandra Craft on January 10, 2021, 12:00:30 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 09, 2021, 04:42:37 PM
I agree with their actions. As far as Biden potentially getting banned, all he has to do is break their rules. They ban a lot of people, and the chump is only one of many, albeit a high profile one. The chump got away with it only because of the office.

I agree, my only problem with it is that it's 4 years too late and his followers are going to see this as significant in their delusional way.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: billy rubin on January 10, 2021, 01:02:46 AM
you can't talk to them, sandra. i've tried, and i all i get back is assertions of fake news and declarations that what they ingest in their bubble is all there is.

th eproblem is th eidea that there are alternate sets of facts to choose from, and that only your personally chosen source of information is a valid one.

the conservative sin america have dumbed-down people by defunding education and pushing anti-science agendas for years now. the result is a pliable electorate that has a low levekl of critical thinking skills, a suspicion of science, and an acceptance of a reality becaue it aligns with their opinions, rather than becaus eit aligns with facts.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Tank on January 10, 2021, 07:17:53 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 10, 2021, 01:02:46 AM
you can't talk to them, sandra. i've tried, and i all i get back is assertions of fake news and declarations that what they ingest in their bubble is all there is.

th eproblem is th eidea that there are alternate sets of facts to choose from, and that only your personally chosen source of information is a valid one.

the conservative sin america have dumbed-down people by defunding education and pushing anti-science agendas for years now. the result is a pliable electorate that has a low levekl of critical thinking skills, a suspicion of science, and an acceptance of a reality becaue it aligns with their opinions, rather than becaus eit aligns with facts.

Well said.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Tom62 on January 10, 2021, 08:05:54 AM
Maybe we should ban Facebook and Twitter instead  ;).

The problem with social media is that they make an artificial model of you, so that they can feed you with information that keeps your attention as long as possible. The more you like something, the more you are fed with similar information, while leaving out opposite views. To keep yourself informed about what the real facts are and what are opinions, conspiracy theories or fake news, is pretty hard

Assume for example that you are a Bernie Sanders supporter on Facebook. How often will you get news feeds telling you that Trump is not a racist, nor a misogynist; and that Antifa and BLM are terrorist organisations? Imagine that you are a Trump supported instead. How often will you get news feeds telling you that Trump is a racist and misogynist; and that Antifa and BLM are peaceful organisations?

I've got friends on Facebook with broad points of views. So my Facebook account is flooded with pro- and anti Trump; pro- and anti- Antifa; pro- and anti BLM opinions. When I opposed some of the more radical opinions, I encountered extreme intolerance that makes any constructive and sensible discussion impossible.

Media and especially social media are fighting for the intention of people. They do that by dividing them (us vs them); by providing opinions instead of news and by creating a platform for conspiracy theorists and other lunatics. They can even decide now, who is allowed to use free speech and who don't. I find it very scary that so much power is in the hands of just a couple of companies that don't take any responsibility of their own actions.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Tank on January 10, 2021, 09:43:38 AM
You laugh but maybe you are right, we should ban Social Media. Or possibly the use of behavioural algorithms ?
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 10, 2021, 07:41:37 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 09, 2021, 05:24:50 PM
its a private company and nit charged with public trust.

if someone told me i had to allow trump to say anything he wanted in internet forum no matter what id be resiatant.

freedom of speech in america is an issue only with government institutions. trump is free to start up a sicial media pkatform of his own at any time

i would rather see 100 percent identical treatment of everybody on a private social platform. trump should have been banned years ago when he violated their terms of service
Agree, without prejudice.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: billy rubin on January 11, 2021, 12:59:58 AM
Quote from: Tank on January 10, 2021, 09:43:38 AM
You laugh but maybe you are right, we should ban Social Media. Or possibly the use of behavioural algorithms ?

ive actually done that, by banning myself from all social media except here and a few esoteric motorycle forums that are similar. im not on facebook, instagram, twitter, tiktok, or anywhere of that nature.

i do have snapchat to send my number one daughter ridiculous photgraphs now and then.

i gave up on the social media stuff after it became apparent that they were harvesting information about me. first cluse were the questionaires:

-- betcha we can tell your IQ in twenty questions . . .

--what personality type are you? answre this quiz to find out . . .

-- 9 out 10 men cannot answer these questions about politics

and so on.

theres scads of useful stuff on social media platforms-- lots of specialized interest groups, easy contacts with friends and relatives, plenty of ways to broaden your horizons. but just not worth it to me.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: billy rubin on January 11, 2021, 01:03:55 AM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 10, 2021, 07:41:37 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 09, 2021, 05:24:50 PM
its a private company and nit charged with public trust.

if someone told me i had to allow trump to say anything he wanted in internet forum no matter what id be resiatant.

freedom of speech in america is an issue only with government institutions. trump is free to start up a sicial media pkatform of his own at any time

i would rather see 100 percent identical treatment of everybody on a private social platform. trump should have been banned years ago when he violated their terms of service
Agree, without prejudice.

but im going to point out tho that the biggies-- facebook, twitter, and instagram-- only got religion after trump was on his way out. sure, he'll be a noisy force for some time to come, but he isn't saying anything different now from what he said before. how much of their ethics got easier when they decided he wasn't as profitable?
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 11, 2021, 02:33:11 AM
I don't think that the said owners could be that cynical. I suspect that the office of the President of the United States was a pretty intimidating political entity for them to block. The over-the-top activities of the last few days have even some hard core Republican (politocos) recoiling in horror. Admittedly, that's probably because their own political careers are going to be toast, following the chump as he swirls down the bowl into the swamp, if they don't disengage.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 11, 2021, 02:57:44 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 11, 2021, 01:03:55 AM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 10, 2021, 07:41:37 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 09, 2021, 05:24:50 PM
its a private company and nit charged with public trust.

if someone told me i had to allow trump to say anything he wanted in internet forum no matter what id be resiatant.

freedom of speech in america is an issue only with government institutions. trump is free to start up a sicial media pkatform of his own at any time

i would rather see 100 percent identical treatment of everybody on a private social platform. trump should have been banned years ago when he violated their terms of service
Agree, without prejudice.

but im going to point out tho that the biggies-- facebook, twitter, and instagram-- only got religion after trump was on his way out. sure, he'll be a noisy force for some time to come, but he isn't saying anything different now from what he said before. how much of their ethics got easier when they decided he wasn't as profitable?
Money making is at the root of of the process. Internet companies are a business. IE- Fox News---plays both sides of politics because they make money from both sides because both sides are newsworthy. I watch news sites to keep an understanding of how what is going on will affect me.
  Yesterday I got tired of Tucker Carson telling me for the last several days how we lost our freedom of speech. I rute out a long post informing him we did not.  The platforms are private property ( as you know) so they have the right to allow or disallow anything on their site as they choose. I blabbed on for 2 long paragraphs . As I was about to punch the comment button a grandson came in to inform me that the internet was being censored and we were loosing freedom of speech.
  I-- no we aren't, pointing at the post on the comp.  ----read that. After of which he left with an different understanding of the situation. This evening I unintentionally brought up the same video as yesterday. I thought I would check the post to find out how far down the list it was. I couldn't find it. So much for freedom of speech, right.
  The constitution is another document we extensively studied. The thing is worthless except when things go wrong, then it becomes worth something---but usually to late. Most just want it for themself but not the other guy.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
Quote from: Tank on January 09, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
Twitter, Instagram and Facebook have permanently banned Donald Trump.

Good idea, bad idea?

I'm vexed, because while I agree with the idea of banning the tangerine turd I'm not sure it is ultimately a good thing for unelected commercial organisations to wield that sort of power. How would I feel if they had banned Joe Biden?

Thoughts?

I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.




[Edited to repair quote tags. - R]
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Tank on January 14, 2021, 09:39:50 AM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
Quote from: Tank on January 09, 2021, 10:14:49 AM
Twitter, Instagram and Facebook have permanently banned Donald Trump.

Good idea, bad idea?

I'm vexed, because while I agree with the idea of banning the tangerine turd I'm not sure it is ultimately a good thing for unelected commercial organisations to wield that sort of power. How would I feel if they had banned Joe Biden?

Thoughts?

I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.




[Edited to repair quote tags. - R]

Trump was not censored. He was banned (way too late) for breaking the rules he signed up to when he joined Twitter, Facebook et al.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.
There are tens of thousands of people that were banned for far less than what Trump had been doing. Trump was allowed to break the rules for so long because of his position. The higher up the food chain you are, it takes more grievous rule violations to be held accountable. That is not censorship and it certainly is not a violation of free speech. Trump can still call a press conference at any time, even at 3am, and the press will be there and will report what he says.

Or do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences?
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:47:21 PM
I'm not questioning Tech's rights in the US. They're in trouble world over. Nations now can see what will happen when there's an overly dependence on large corporations teaming with political parties. I think Uganda shut out facebook and twitter. There's an internet company in the US northwest that the people demanded they shut down access to twitter and facebook.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.
There are tens of thousands of people that were banned for far less than what Trump had been doing. Trump was allowed to break the rules for so long because of his position. The higher up the food chain you are, it takes more grievous rule violations to be held accountable. That is not censorship and it certainly is not a violation of free speech. Trump can still call a press conference at any time, even at 3am, and the press will be there and will report what he says.

Or do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences?
I'm Apolitical. I'm not concerned about Trump's relationship with Twitter. I've previously posted my position on constitutional private rights. I'm not attacking anyone.  :)
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Tank on January 14, 2021, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.
There are tens of thousands of people that were banned for far less than what Trump had been doing. Trump was allowed to break the rules for so long because of his position. The higher up the food chain you are, it takes more grievous rule violations to be held accountable. That is not censorship and it certainly is not a violation of free speech. Trump can still call a press conference at any time, even at 3am, and the press will be there and will report what he says.

Or do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences?
I'm Apolitical. I'm not concerned about Trump's relationship with Twitter. I've previously posted my position on constitutional private rights. I'm not attacking anyone.  :)

You said he was 'censored' how is that an apolitical statement?
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 05:12:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 14, 2021, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.
There are tens of thousands of people that were banned for far less than what Trump had been doing. Trump was allowed to break the rules for so long because of his position. The higher up the food chain you are, it takes more grievous rule violations to be held accountable. That is not censorship and it certainly is not a violation of free speech. Trump can still call a press conference at any time, even at 3am, and the press will be there and will report what he says.

Or do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences?
I'm Apolitical. I'm not concerned about Trump's relationship with Twitter. I've previously posted my position on constitutional private rights. I'm not attacking anyone.  :)

You said he was 'censored' how is that an apolitical statement?
From what I understand of censor vs ban is there's a crossover area of meaning. But, banned is OK to, I have no objections.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Tank on January 14, 2021, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 05:12:33 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 14, 2021, 04:01:17 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.
There are tens of thousands of people that were banned for far less than what Trump had been doing. Trump was allowed to break the rules for so long because of his position. The higher up the food chain you are, it takes more grievous rule violations to be held accountable. That is not censorship and it certainly is not a violation of free speech. Trump can still call a press conference at any time, even at 3am, and the press will be there and will report what he says.

Or do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences?
I'm Apolitical. I'm not concerned about Trump's relationship with Twitter. I've previously posted my position on constitutional private rights. I'm not attacking anyone.  :)

You said he was 'censored' how is that an apolitical statement?
From what I understand of censor vs ban is there's a crossover area of meaning. But, banned is OK to, I have no objections.

There may be some cases where a ban may constitute censorship, this is not one of them. Trump exploited his position to gain privilege.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: billy rubin on January 14, 2021, 09:09:53 PM
i have no problem with censorship, so long as my government is not involved, and people do not attempt to eliminate my freedom to develop my own platforms to express my own point of view.

if i publish a newspaper, it's going to have an editorial slant. if i pay to operate an internet forum, there will be philosophes that i do not want to see represented there. if i build out a social media platform, there will be terms of service that i will select, and will enforce.

censorship in the private sector is everywhere. if you don't lik eit, then in a free society you are free to start up your own speakers corner and say what you like. but your speech is not granted a free megaphone on someone else's platform.

the restrictions on speech in america have to do with public safety, libel, and the constitutional restriction of the government from infringing on speech that doesn't violate tjhose societal safeguards. i thibnk those are generally good rules for anybody to follow, not just people living under the american system.

banning somebody from a private platform is just fine, if he is still able to open up his own platform. to continue with the donald as an example, he violated just about everybody's terms of service, and th esocial media is still enoug hof a wild west that people just didn't know how to deal with it, and made mistakes. they are correcting them now, and taking heat for not figuring it out earlier.

but just like the early internet freely marketed images of child rape under "freedom of speech" that have been subsequently forbidden as the medium matured, so social media platforms are finally figuring out that making exceptions to hate speech or advocacy of violence is a bad idea, even when th eactor is a head of state.

donald has not been silenced, he can post on any social media platform that he can use his own money to create, under his own editorial guidelines. he just hasn't needed to do that work himself so far, and he's whining about other people not letting him tak advantage of their work.

subject to the customary laws about public safety and libel, he's not restricted anywhere.



Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 14, 2021, 10:25:37 PM
I log into face book for the sole purpose of connecting with some friends. I spend extremely little time there, and don't hunt around, so I wonder how much traction people on the far left have there?
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 10:42:10 PM
Quote from: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.
There are tens of thousands of people that were banned for far less than what Trump had been doing. Trump was allowed to break the rules for so long because of his position. The higher up the food chain you are, it takes more grievous rule violations to be held accountable. That is not censorship and it certainly is not a violation of free speech. Trump can still call a press conference at any time, even at 3am, and the press will be there and will report what he says.

Or do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences?
I don't think you understand my position. It's not about whether Trump or Biden are good guys or bad guys, that would get me mixed up in political hatcheting. To do so I would have to have a political direction, I don't have any, so I can't discuss political theories effectively. I may at times agree with a politician on something or another.  I'd rather stay out of arguments. Arguments normally have 2 winners. I was merely responding to the OP in line if censoring was good or a bad thing.  One result is Uganda's fear/concern of Twitter censoring one political party. They think that would be a bad thing. :)
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: No one on January 14, 2021, 11:22:25 PM
King turdling should be forced to wear anti-itch mittens and a ball gag!

Have I ever mentioned how much I fucking hate that moronic, hateful, malicious pig?
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Icarus on January 15, 2021, 02:03:35 AM
censored >>  censured   (picky picky)
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 15, 2021, 03:16:15 AM
Quote from: No one on January 14, 2021, 11:22:25 PM
King turdling should be forced to wear anti-itch mittens and a ball gag!

Have I ever mentioned how much I fucking hate that moronic, hateful, malicious pig?

Pff. I'm of a mind that he should get hit in the ass by a red-hot fire hydrant that had just entered the atmosphere at Mach 3.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Recusant on January 15, 2021, 03:46:24 AM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:47:21 PM. . . There's an internet company in the US northwest that the people demanded they shut down access to twitter and facebook.

Please cite a source for that.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 15, 2021, 04:33:20 AM
Quote from: Recusant on January 15, 2021, 03:46:24 AM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:47:21 PM. . . There's an internet company in the US northwest that the people demanded they shut down access to twitter and facebook.

Please cite a source for that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IFOwm_O5w0
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Recusant on January 15, 2021, 07:40:31 AM
Thank you. Yes, some yapping twerp on YouTube is a source. Everybody has their own standards.

"ISP in Idaho Planned to Block Facebook and Twitter to Punish 'Censorship'" | Gizmodo/MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/isp-in-idaho-planned-to-block-facebook-and-twitter-to-punish-censorship/ar-BB1cGXFv)

QuoteResponding to the public backlash over Twitter and Facebook's decision to boot President Trump from their platforms, an internet service provider in rural Idaho told customers that it would block the popular social media networks by default. But that decision sparked a separate mini-backlash, and the company is now reportedly only blocking the sites for customers by request.

[Continues . . . (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/isp-in-idaho-planned-to-block-facebook-and-twitter-to-punish-censorship/ar-BB1cGXFv)]

Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Tank on January 15, 2021, 07:51:59 AM
Quote from: Recusant on January 15, 2021, 07:40:31 AM
Thank you. Yes, some yapping twerp on YouTube is a source. Everybody has their own standards.

"ISP in Idaho Planned to Block Facebook and Twitter to Punish 'Censorship'" | Gizmodo/MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/isp-in-idaho-planned-to-block-facebook-and-twitter-to-punish-censorship/ar-BB1cGXFv)

QuoteResponding to the public backlash over Twitter and Facebook's decision to boot President Trump from their platforms, an internet service provider in rural Idaho told customers that it would block the popular social media networks by default. But that decision sparked a separate mini-backlash, and the company is now reportedly only blocking the sites for customers by request.

[Continues . . . (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/isp-in-idaho-planned-to-block-facebook-and-twitter-to-punish-censorship/ar-BB1cGXFv)]

Royal level sarcasm. 10/10  :rofl:
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: xSilverPhinx on January 15, 2021, 01:18:09 PM
:snicker:
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Davin on January 15, 2021, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.
There are tens of thousands of people that were banned for far less than what Trump had been doing. Trump was allowed to break the rules for so long because of his position. The higher up the food chain you are, it takes more grievous rule violations to be held accountable. That is not censorship and it certainly is not a violation of free speech. Trump can still call a press conference at any time, even at 3am, and the press will be there and will report what he says.

Or do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences?
I'm Apolitical. I'm not concerned about Trump's relationship with Twitter. I've previously posted my position on constitutional private rights. I'm not attacking anyone.  :)
What I said wasn't political either. I asked a simple question: do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences? Because it appears that you want to Trump be able to break the rules and face no consequences for it. Because Trump's been breaking the rules for four years and is only now facing being banned for it.
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Davin on January 15, 2021, 01:58:51 PM
So I heard a lot of Republicans on Fox News telling the public about how censored they are and their freedom of speech is being violated. If only there were some way for them to get their message out to the public...
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: billy rubin on January 15, 2021, 02:33:22 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 15, 2021, 03:16:15 AM
Quote from: No one on January 14, 2021, 11:22:25 PM
King turdling should be forced to wear anti-itch mittens and a ball gag!

Have I ever mentioned how much I fucking hate that moronic, hateful, malicious pig?

Pff. I'm of a mind that he should get hit in the ass by a red-hot fire hydrant that had just entered the atmosphere at Mach 3.

how do you get a fire hydrant into spece?
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 15, 2021, 02:36:35 PM
Quote from: Davin on January 15, 2021, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 03:52:25 PM
Quote from: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:08:34 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on January 14, 2021, 01:07:52 AM
I think Big tech is in trouble. Since Trump was censored world political leaders are critical of big tech platforms. It don't look good for them. (Both- tech and countries. Teck because of their social powers. Countries can now see what the techs can do) I'm not going to post examples because there's so much going on this internet-wise so it won't be to much trouble to have a look for the self. Tech may have walked it's way into government regs. It looks like they did in India.
There are tens of thousands of people that were banned for far less than what Trump had been doing. Trump was allowed to break the rules for so long because of his position. The higher up the food chain you are, it takes more grievous rule violations to be held accountable. That is not censorship and it certainly is not a violation of free speech. Trump can still call a press conference at any time, even at 3am, and the press will be there and will report what he says.

Or do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences?
I'm Apolitical. I'm not concerned about Trump's relationship with Twitter. I've previously posted my position on constitutional private rights. I'm not attacking anyone.  :)
What I said wasn't political either. I asked a simple question: do you think it's OK for Trump to break the rules without any consequences? Because it appears that you want to Trump be able to break the rules and face no consequences for it. Because Trump's been breaking the rules for four years and is only now facing being banned for it.
No, it is not OK for Trump to break the rules. I don't follow him or any else, so I don't have any evidence nor am I looking for any that Trump broke the rules. I have no caring if he did or didn't. I'm merely posting subject matter in accordance with what the OP is dealing with. I don't have a problem with Trump, up or down. What others think or know about Trump I don't think or know. I don't know or care anything of Biden either. I was searching for archeological sites when I happened across an article. I didn't post it for me, I posted it for you here. I don't vote, so I'm not for Trump or Biden. It's very apparent that the censoring/banning of Trump brought financial consequences upon the companies that banned just as anyone could predict, I did. I understand universal law which states, there are consequences for everything one does, expressed in, "no good deed goes unpunished". There are consequences for good deeds and bad deeds.   Doing a good can bring about an evil and doing an evil can bring about a good. Money buys good as well as evil. That's what I understand the OP to be about-  the banning of Trump for the good or the bad. Can we be done with this now, I'd like to move on.  :) 
Title: Re: Social media censorship or responsibility?
Post by: Old Seer on January 15, 2021, 03:57:08 PM
Quote from: Recusant on January 15, 2021, 07:40:31 AM
Thank you. Yes, some yapping twerp on YouTube is a source. Everybody has their own standards.

"ISP in Idaho Planned to Block Facebook and Twitter to Punish 'Censorship'" | Gizmodo/MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/isp-in-idaho-planned-to-block-facebook-and-twitter-to-punish-censorship/ar-BB1cGXFv)

QuoteResponding to the public backlash over Twitter and Facebook's decision to boot President Trump from their platforms, an internet service provider in rural Idaho told customers that it would block the popular social media networks by default. But that decision sparked a separate mini-backlash, and the company is now reportedly only blocking the sites for customers by request.

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Ok, One more thing. I apologize,  but is he relaying the truth of the matter, I found that he was, he showed the evidence. Yes/no. I'm sure there's more articles on the subject but this was the one I encountered.