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General => Pseudo-science, Conspiracy Theories, and Other Loads of Bull => Topic started by: zorkan on January 02, 2024, 12:18:05 PM

Title: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 02, 2024, 12:18:05 PM
God everywhere but always unseen.
An idea supported by the mirage men of the priesthood.

Pope is the priest of the church of ufology.
A mirage man for sure.
Got lucky with the name Pope, if that's his real name.

Why would aliens be interested in a middle aged planet like ours and not a newer one if they want to find a new home?
Ufology saved by Oumuamua, claimed to be an alien probe, but more likely a new law of physics to us.
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Asmodean on January 02, 2024, 01:53:29 PM
There are many reasons why an alien civilization might be interested in a planet like this one. For starters, research. From there, it may be cheaper and easier to colonise than terraform, humans and such may taste good, there may be strategic positioning involved (Assuming multiple galactic civilizations with borders in space) and so forth.

What's a mirage man?
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 02, 2024, 02:23:51 PM
Mirage men are spreaders of disinformation in the military and ex-military.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mirage-Men-Journey-Disinformation-Paranoia/dp/1845298578

Another aspect is that after the wars of the last century religion started to decline and something needed to take its place.
It was the UFO cult that took a hold.

I've seen 3 UFO's myself.
It's strange how you can't explain them straight away.
One was probably a helicopter.
The other 2 were probably tricks of the light.
I was present with other people when I saw a bright light falling from the sky. Yet I seemed to have been the only one to have noticed it.

There is zero evidence this world has been visited by aliens.
We wouldn't recognise their technology in the same way as a cave man wouldn't recognise a cell phone.
If it looks like our technology then it is our technology.


Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Asmodean on January 03, 2024, 07:47:12 AM
Yep. Seen an occasional UFO myself. They were all objects that flew, which I for a variety of reasons could not identify. Insects, birds, an occasional DJI drone... What I am reasonably confident in saying is that none of them were remotely space travel capable. :smilenod:
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on January 03, 2024, 09:58:42 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on January 03, 2024, 07:47:12 AMYep. Seen an occasional UFO myself. They were all objects that flew, which I for a variety of reasons could not identify. Insects, birds, an occasional DJI drone... What I am reasonably confident in saying is that none of them were remotely space travel capable. :smilenod:

That's what they want you to think.
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on January 03, 2024, 10:08:53 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on January 02, 2024, 01:53:29 PMThere are many reasons why an alien civilization might be interested in a planet like this one. For starters, research. From there, it may be cheaper and easier to colonise than terraform, humans and such may taste good, there may be strategic positioning involved (Assuming multiple galactic civilizations with borders in space) and so forth.

What's a mirage man?

I'd like to be, but how do they transport these 24" things? 

Weight - Fibreglass    Weight - Kevlar    Beam    Length
35kg / 77 lbs    32kg / 70 lbs    61cm / 24.5"    7.3m / 24 ft

(https://gumtreeau-res.cloudinary.com/image/private/t_$_s-l800/gumtree/e4139156-a431-4061-ba21-91bc27db6a6d.jpg)

Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Asmodean on January 03, 2024, 10:31:02 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on January 03, 2024, 09:58:42 AMThat's what they want you to think.
They do, don't they? That it happens to be true is just a added bonus. :smilenod:
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: The Magic Pudding.. on January 03, 2024, 11:02:11 AM
Quote from: zorkan on January 02, 2024, 02:23:51 PMThere is zero evidence this world has been visited by aliens.
We wouldn't recognise their technology in the same way as a cave man wouldn't recognise a cell phone.
If it looks like our technology then it is our technology.

Zero evidence? I'd be OK with no reliable, or only discreditable
You do so seem to enjoy your pontificating.
I might recognise their tech as theirs even if I don't know how it works, just as I don't no how a cell phone works.  The cave man reference is just twaddle.
 
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 03, 2024, 12:10:35 PM
Of all the images of UFO's UAP's I've seen on  TV, books, internet they are all in 2D, never in 3D.
And usually some distance away.
Like the mothership that flew over Stephenville was also seen as an smaller object chased by jets.
To confirm my best guess to what it is I'd need to get up close and look at it from all angles.
The Tictac UFO's are most likely to be drones, and so on.
As I was not there to witness any such event I need proof, not speculation.
In the case of alien bases in Puerto Rico, or a hole at the North Pole, or on the moon I need verification.
Should it ever come I doubt if there would be mass panic. people would still go to work as normal.
 
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Asmodean on January 03, 2024, 01:31:25 PM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding.. on January 03, 2024, 11:02:11 AMThe cave man reference is just twaddle.
Yep. Consider the Watchmaker argument. If you stumble upon a watch in a pile of sand, you'd be forgiven for asking, "is any-one missing a watch?"

A cavemen would not have recognised an idling cell phone as a communication device - nor would someone from 1473. They would be able to infer alien tech, however. (Which, for them, it would be) Or divine whatnots. Or just repurpose it into a handy blunt object and not think too much about it.

Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 04, 2024, 12:04:32 PM
The cave man analogy was given by Prof. Avi Loeb who thinks Oumuamua is an ET probe.

Nobody seems to make the connection that gods and aliens both come out of the sky.
They are mirages of the imagination.
They are the same thing.
All in the mind.


Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 04, 2024, 02:34:10 PM
Starting to think about what god and aliens have done for me.

When I was young god was presented to me as a spirit in the sky who knew my every thought and move.
I needed to be good to avoid his wrath, or I wouldn't get presents from Santa.
Now god will have no hesitation in burning me in hell if I'm not a good adult.

I'm informed by Michio Kaku that aliens would only need wormhole technology to go anywhere in the universe instantly.
Of the hundred thousand million planets out there some of them will have life and a capability way beyond ours.
It seems aliens must be here already.
One example:
https://metro.co.uk/2018/02/05/man-claims-lost-virginity-aliens-wear-wigs-describing-babies-fathered-7288306/

Another example is they have their own way of healing and it's what we call Reiki.
Only snag here is we don't quite know how it works, and it's not testable.
https://reikitrainingprogram.wordpress.com/2012/04/17/the-extraterrestrial-reiki-connection/

What has Nick Pope ever done for me, other than I'm expected to listen to his propaganda.
He carefully selects the likes of Rendlesham Forest and Roswell because of the military there.
Yet he largely avoids sightings and abductions by the common people.
Once of the UK and now aged about 60 he lives in America, and that's all I know about him.
Has he been silenced because he knows too much?
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 05, 2024, 03:04:45 PM
The secret of Fatima is here.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/HEAVENLY-LIGHTS-Apparitions-Fatima-Phenomenon/dp/1933665211

If you leave it long enough anything can get reinterpreted.
It's where gods and aliens meet.
Unfortunately I was not there to witness such an event, and neither were 99.9...% of the rest of the world.

Did British soldiers witness angels at Mons during WW1?
Same answer.
Cloud formations with trick of light far more likely.
Also likely, French peasant girls guided troops to safety out of woods.

Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 11, 2024, 05:29:53 PM
Are the alien motherships  merely atmospheric diffraction?

https://www.militarytimes.com/off-duty/military-culture/2023/03/09/pentagon-ufo-chief-says-alien-mothership-in-our-solar-system-possible/

Simple answer: atmospheric diffraction or natural electromagnetic phenomena.


 
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Asmodean on January 12, 2024, 08:18:20 AM
Quote from: zorkan on January 11, 2024, 05:29:53 PMSimple answer: atmospheric diffraction or natural electromagnetic phenomena.
Let us not forget lies, wishful thinking, wishful-thinking-fueled lies and them shrooms. When shrooms are a possible explanation, shrooms should be considered. :smilenod:
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Tank on January 19, 2024, 11:21:02 AM
Quote from: zorkan on January 02, 2024, 12:18:05 PM...

Why would aliens be interested in a middle aged planet like ours and not a newer one if they want to find a new home?

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The nature of the Earth's atmosphere has changed radically over its existence. If one is interested in a planet to colonize I would put habitability before age. If they have a carbon based metabolism needing oxygen the the Earth would have been uninhabitable for billions of years in its younger days.
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 20, 2024, 12:00:51 PM
If we are the Earthlings then aliens on the moon are the Lunarlings who are there to mine Helium-3 for nuclear fusion.
I mean, why else would they have a base on the moon?
https://www.polytechnique-insights.com/en/braincamps/space/extraterrestrial-mining/helium-3-from-the-lunar-surface-for-nuclear-fusion/

Day trips to the Earth are their way of vacationing.
They don't mean us any harm, but occasionally they crash land in places like Area 51, Germany and Wales.

The Biggest Secret by David Icke should be your indispensable guide to their activities.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Biggest-Secret-book-change-World-ebook/dp/B00T7SK24K

I did see a UFO a couple of nights ago.
So disappointed to find it was a helicopter. 

So the latest unmanned moon landing (Japanese) runs into a bit of trouble.
Always seems less likely that humans ever set foot there all those years ago.
Wonder if it all had to do with the necessity to win the Cold War.
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Asmodean on January 21, 2024, 08:30:06 PM
Well, if you are one of them lunatics, I suppose you have a base on the moon because it's your home, rather than for the helium ;-)
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 22, 2024, 12:08:45 PM
But Armstrong and Aldrin spotted UFO's and their bases on the moon, according to Nick Pope.
Let's not debunk a good story.
https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2AA27O/
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Asmodean on January 22, 2024, 01:11:25 PM
'Twas them Soviets. Ooh! Ooh! Or them Nazis. Iron sky. I knew it was an documentary.
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on January 25, 2024, 12:41:16 PM
According to Pope, aliens are waging a war on humanity and they might be from the Sirius star system.

This is what their music probably sounds like. From alien built temples in Mexico.
Sound of the universe by Karlheinz Stockhausen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hPkJW95jsw

You can start this piece at any point, but I'd suggest from about 50 minutes if you have limited time.

Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: Asmodean on January 25, 2024, 02:50:09 PM
I think that if aliens were to wage war on humanity, they would be far more efficient in its execution. Personally, I'd go the superbug route. Better ways of dehumanifying the planet are likely available.
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on March 09, 2024, 12:49:49 PM
I think this is correct and there is no evidence that UFO's / UAP's are under alien control.

https://apnews.com/article/ufo-pentagon-aliens-intelligence-9a32aba88eb610cf16b2e9f0908704b3

But people will keep believing and build up more anecdotes which they will describe as evidence.
Title: Re: God, aliens and Nick Pope.
Post by: zorkan on March 14, 2024, 12:20:31 PM
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/monolith-ufo-hay-on-wye-wales-uk/

However, Pope does not believe aliens are behind this.