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Religion => Religion => Topic started by: Icarus on July 25, 2020, 07:42:41 PM

Title: Atheist morality
Post by: Icarus on July 25, 2020, 07:42:41 PM
Here is an interesting article about the widely held xtian belief that it is not possible for atheists to live morally, honestly, or compassionately. 

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/how-a-huguenot-philosopher-realised-that-atheists-could-be-virtuous?utm_source=pocket-newtab
Title: Re: Atheist morality
Post by: Randy on July 26, 2020, 01:04:22 PM
And here I thought being an atheist meant I could burn puppies with glee. Morality and a good conscience keeps me from doing it.
Title: Re: Atheist morality
Post by: Old Seer on July 26, 2020, 03:59:00 PM
An Athiest can be a Christian like anyone else. But of course, I don't see that there are any Christians. Christian values are the same as human values.
Title: Re: Atheist morality
Post by: No one on July 26, 2020, 07:50:26 PM
Morality is what I say is right.
Immorality is what I say is wrong!
Title: Re: Atheist morality
Post by: Recusant on July 26, 2020, 08:26:33 PM
An Athiest can be a Christian like anyone else.


 :eyebrow: For some definitions of Christian.

But of course, I don't see that there are any Christians. Christian values are the same as human values.

Given that any values of which we are aware are "the same as human values," I think what you're doing here would be described as a logical tautology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)).
Title: Re: Atheist morality
Post by: Old Seer on July 26, 2020, 09:02:52 PM
An Athiest can be a Christian like anyone else.


 :eyebrow: For some definitions of Christian.

But of course, I don't see that there are any Christians. Christian values are the same as human values.

Given that any values of which we are aware are "the same as human values", I think what you're doing here would be described as a logical tautology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)).
It depends upon one's understanding of Christianity of what one accepts or denies.
Title: Re: Atheist morality
Post by: Randy on July 26, 2020, 10:37:12 PM
An Athiest can be a Christian like anyone else.


 :eyebrow: For some definitions of Christian.

But of course, I don't see that there are any Christians. Christian values are the same as human values.

Given that any values of which we are aware are "the same as human values", I think what you're doing here would be described as a logical tautology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tautology_(logic)).
It depends upon one's understanding of Christianity of what one accepts or denies.
From what I understand, to be a Christian one must accept Jesus as one's personal savior. I can't imagine an atheist having done that.
Title: Re: Atheist morality
Post by: Recusant on July 26, 2020, 11:24:57 PM
GetPocket wants something from you if you visit their site more than a few times.

Direct link to the article: "How a Huguenot philosopher realised that atheists could be virtuous" | Aeon (https://aeon.co/ideas/how-a-huguenot-philosopher-realised-that-atheists-could-be-virtuous)

I think some here would beg to differ with Bayle. I don't think that I personally can subscribe to his attempt at a nominally objective basis for morality. ;)
Title: Re: Atheist morality
Post by: billy rubin on July 27, 2020, 05:32:17 PM
Morality is what I say is right.
Immorality is what I say is wrong!


yes.

that's what it all boils down to.