Not sure if this is the right place for it, some posts might not be well desctibed as "laid back", but, wtf.
One thing that gets up my olfactory orifice is the "talker over". Rarely a deliberate thing, mostly a bad, but still annoying, habit.
I was on a course last week and a fellow member, let's call him Fred, answered a question that the instructor asked. As he spoke a related question came to my mind. Fred appeared to reach his conclusion and looked away from the instructor.
I atarted to ask my question, got three words into it when Fred restarted with, "But in the case..." and continued talking over me. He does the same to others, goes off in a little world of his own and seems totally unaware that others are now speaking. He also, seemingly, totally ignores what others suggest then suggests the same thing himself a few minutes later.
My other co-volunteer has a similar habit and also sort of fades into silence half way through a sentence. I am told it comes from living alone, which I know they both do, like me neither has been married. OK, I can see that, but I have lived alone for almost 50 years and this is an affliction that I seem to have missed. Luckily.
People, eh?
After it happened about 4 times even the instructor noticed and asked me to re-iterate my question when Fred finally wound down.
Flippant responses welcone.
/moan
That trait annoys me greatly. Had I "talked over" someone when I was a youth, I'd have had my ass busted by my parents.
The talk over thing is standard operating procedure on political TV programs. Frequently, there will be three people talking at the same time. Most rude, most annoying.
Quote from: Icarus on June 25, 2017, 06:00:25 PM
That trait annoys me greatly. Had I "talked over" someone when I was a youth, I'd have had my ass busted by my parents.
The talk over thing is standard operating procedure on political TV programs. Frequently, there will be three people talking at the same time. Most rude, most annoying.
There is a slight difference between "competitive discussion" and people who live in a little bubble all of their own. Or are just bad mannered.
:notsure:
Could be a cultural thing...'round here talking over each other is the norm, I think. You have to battle to get a word in, which leads to talking over the person or people you're talking/listening to. :blahblah:
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on June 25, 2017, 09:43:42 PM
:notsure:
Could be a cultural thing...'round here talking over each other is the norm, I think. You have to battle to get a word in, which leads to talking over the person or people you're talking/listening to. :blahblah:
Well, certainly just not Btitish, y'know, eh, what? :toff:
You need one of these:
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Quote from: Claireliontamer on June 25, 2017, 09:55:06 PM
You need one of these:
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Er, one hesitates to ask how one employs such an item. Could vary from loud to painful in terms of gaining attention ...
Quote from: Gloucester on June 25, 2017, 10:11:19 PM
Er, one hesitates to ask how one employs such an item. Could vary from loud to painful in terms of gaining attention ...
Painful. It's obvious you throw it at people who are talking over you! :grin:
Not Lord of the Flies fans then...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expressions_of_dominance
QuoteAlso, when asked to think of typical behaviors of powerful individuals, Carney, Hall, and LeBeau (2005) found that those that were thought to hold more power were also perceived to have more successful interruptions as well as fewer disfluencies.
Quote from: Icarus on June 25, 2017, 06:00:25 PM
That trait annoys me greatly. Had I "talked over" someone when I was a youth, I'd have had my ass busted by my parents.
I was taught to always wait until there was a long enough pause that you could be certain the other person had finished. This worked well enough until my Dad married my stepmother, who came from a family where everyone talked without break. It was kind of funny, actually. We had to get used to just jumping in and talking over for awhile if we wanted to get anything said around Wendy or her family, and in her turn Wendy had to learn the difference between a short pause to collect thoughts and a long pause indicating we'd finished. That was just as frustrating for her as having to jump in was for us.
QuoteThe talk over thing is standard operating procedure on political TV programs. Frequently, there will be three people talking at the same time. Most rude, most annoying.
I absolutely
hate that! I tune in to hear the ideas being discussed and the various positions on them and all I hear is meaningless yelling. This is why I stopped listening to political programs, it was just a waste of time.
Quote from: Claireliontamer on June 25, 2017, 10:18:20 PM
Not Lord of the Flies fans then...
:lol:
Watched the movie long ago, but never read the book. Doesn't it mean the one in possession of the seashell is the one who speaks?
I stopped to get a coffee Saturday after spending 2.5 hours at the gym when this older acquaintance I know walked by me while I was sitting a table drinking my coffee and looking at my phone.
Recognizing him I looked up and said, "hello". He stopped, said hello to me, and then noticing my phone in my hand said, "You people just can't live without those can you" or something to that effect.
I smile back, politely laugh, and tell him that I was actually reading a very interesting article from our local news about urban renewal, but he scoffed at my remark, in fact he cut me off while I was explaining the details of the article, and then he just went on and on about people and their damn phones and those Pad things, and how they are just wasting time".
He rambled on for a bit and then just walked away, I guess he was looking for confirmation or agreement from me, didn't find it and moved on to his next victim.
Anyway I saw this picture today, and it remind me of the old guy, and how misperceptions can arise from ignorance and unfamiliarity, but his comment did rub a sore point with me, and is the reason I brought up my workout at the beginning of my post.
Here I had worked out quite strenuously trying to stay healthy, and now as I was relaxing a bit with what I felt was a deserving break in my day I get scolded by some guy because from his view point I was wasting my time looking at my phone, because he couldn't see or even imagine that I was simply having a coffee and in a sense "reading the local news-paper".
I mean if I had actually had a real newspaper in my hand he wouldn't have made the remark to me that he did would he, but since I had my phone he naturally assumed I was wasting my time, and what if I was, not his business anyway.
I feel the same way when I hear folks complaining about people wasting time playing video games, yet they have no problem spending their time watching "Wheel of Fortune or Jeopardy" on TV, in fact the average American watches over 5 hours of TV a day, yet video games are destroying our youth. (Fox News is destroying the minds of our elderly folk, to the detriment of our country and society much more than video games ever will)
Anyway that's my rant.
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^^^ owned
Damn good rant Bruno. I find the I-phone most useful, just not for social purposes. The google trip maps are priceless, the news cycle is great, and there are countless other spectacular capabilities with that gadget. Want to learn the meaning of a word or words like deinococcus radiodurans (a biologic that can resist atomic or cosmic radiation)...the phone can tell you what it is. Spectacular ability indeed. I appreciate its incredible usefulness.
On the other hand, it is an evil contrivance that is responsible for killing some innocent people. Texting while driving for example. That is a problem, damned near epidemic here in this peninsular state. Instructions that insist that you turn your ringer off at the theater or concert are standard operating procedure these days. Some people cannot seem to breathe without having the fucking phone in their hand. I do not recall that grandmothers ever had to prohibit newspapers from her dinner table. She did not have a basket at the front door that were obligatory depositories for the newspaper like she does for her grand childrens phones.
The second paragraph is my modest rant.
Manny Pacquiao vs Jeff "No Name" Horn
Manny Beats him hard in the 9th round leaving his face cut to shreds. Horn is doing every dirty trick in the book and trying to keep away from Manny.
At the end of 12 rounds, the winner by unanimous decision.....
Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.
I suppose I will post a lot in this thread but this has me more concerened than anything.
As I've stated previously, I have a psychotic illness and I go to a support/recovery forum surrounding that. One member suggested that when looking to tell a date they are mentally ill they should tell them "I am psychotic but not in a dangerous way" and then to make crazy faces. I told the person this is a good way to scare someone away to which they replied that at least it will make a good memory.
Now I didn't tell them this but I have personal stake in this because a psychotic person did a similar thing to me before I was diagnosed. But they did it to coerce me into putting my hand down their shirt or they would make the crazy faces. She called it "going crazy" when she decided to do it.
I believe I brought this up before in a thread elsewhere on here but it bothers me that people would do this to others. I'm not a fan of being forced to do things and it just scares me that this goes on in real life. I kinda want to do something about it but I just don't know what.
Any responses will be appreciated.
Since we seem to have lost "Dear Mr Tesco..." I'll dump this here.
After another frustrating trip to Tesco I decided to fill in their survey. Here are some of my comments when asked to expand on my given score:
Or I would have done if the survey link had not timed out in the few minutes it took to start this post!
FucketyfucketyfuckingTesco! There was some good sarcasm wasted there!
Got a different survey question selection on second attempt, must have answered questions slightly differently. Did not get the opportunity to reply "in general" and say that Tesco might have difficulty running a jumble sale, despite paying tellephone number salaries to its executives. Still, it exists to make money for shareholders, not give the public perfect service. Nor that they should sack all their store designers and marketting psychologists and start listening to their customers. Still, the masses flock there so I suppose they keep it just above the annoyance tolerance level. I know of five people willing to drive five times the distance and pay more at Sainsburys, or even further to Asda, rather than shop on Tesco. But they are twice a month family shoppers not twice a weekers like me. Can't store much in my little hovel.
QuoteI would not recommend Tesco to a friend because of the following factors:
1. Tesco are frequently out of stock
2. Tesco are constantly moving stuff around.
3. Tesco's idea of product aisle and shelf signage leaves a very great deal to be desired.
4. Picking trolleys and their staff are too often blocking aisles.
5. Staff often stop to talk in inconvenient places, like blocking the corners of aisles.
6. Staff often rush about without giving customers the right of way.
I did not enjoy my visit and would like Tesco to:
1. Stop moving stuff around.
2. Improve signage.
3. Improve stock control.
4. Ensure that all staff remain aware of customers needs even when not directly interacting with them.
I left my email address but, with 25 years experience of fruitless complaining to the store and head office I don't expect much joy.
Quote from: Dave on March 08, 2018, 01:50:43 PM
Got a different survey question selection on second attempt, must have answered questions slightly differently. Did not get the opportunity to reply "in general" and say that Tesco might have difficulty running a jumble sale, despite paying tellephone number salaries to its executives. Still, it exists to make money for shareholders, not give the public perfect service. Nor that they should sack all their store designers and marketting psychologists and start listening to their customers. Still, the masses flock there so I suppose they keep it just above the annoyance tolerance level. I know of five people willing to drive five times the distance and pay more at Sainsburys, or even further to Asda, rather than shop on Tesco. But they are twice a month family shoppers not twice a weekers like me. Can't store much in my little hovel.
QuoteI would not recommend Tesco to a friend because of the following factors:
1. Tesco are frequently out of stock
2. Tesco are constantly moving stuff around.
3. Tesco's idea of product aisle and shelf signage leaves a very great deal to be desired.
4. Picking trolleys and their staff are too often blocking aisles.
5. Staff often stop to talk in inconvenient places, like blocking the corners of aisles.
6. Staff often rush about without giving customers the right of way.
I did not enjoy my visit and would like Tesco to:
1. Stop moving stuff around.
2. Improve signage.
3. Improve stock control.
4. Ensure that all staff remain aware of customers needs even when not directly interacting with them.
I left my email address but, with 25 years experience of fruitless complaining to the store and head office I don't expect much joy.
That's got to be one of the best 1st world rants I have ever read.
Quote from: Tank on March 08, 2018, 04:58:04 PM
Quote from: Dave on March 08, 2018, 01:50:43 PM
Got a different survey question selection on second attempt, must have answered questions slightly differently. Did not get the opportunity to reply "in general" and say that Tesco might have difficulty running a jumble sale, despite paying tellephone number salaries to its executives. Still, it exists to make money for shareholders, not give the public perfect service. Nor that they should sack all their store designers and marketting psychologists and start listening to their customers. Still, the masses flock there so I suppose they keep it just above the annoyance tolerance level. I know of five people willing to drive five times the distance and pay more at Sainsburys, or even further to Asda, rather than shop on Tesco. But they are twice a month family shoppers not twice a weekers like me. Can't store much in my little hovel.
QuoteI would not recommend Tesco to a friend because of the following factors:
1. Tesco are frequently out of stock
2. Tesco are constantly moving stuff around.
3. Tesco's idea of product aisle and shelf signage leaves a very great deal to be desired.
4. Picking trolleys and their staff are too often blocking aisles.
5. Staff often stop to talk in inconvenient places, like blocking the corners of aisles.
6. Staff often rush about without giving customers the right of way.
I did not enjoy my visit and would like Tesco to:
1. Stop moving stuff around.
2. Improve signage.
3. Improve stock control.
4. Ensure that all staff remain aware of customers needs even when not directly interacting with them.
I left my email address but, with 25 years experience of fruitless complaining to the store and head office I don't expect much joy.
That's got to be one of the best 1st world rants I have ever read.
"The Thinking Atheist" (a forum that has a lot of aggressive members in it, often more aggression than thinking) has a thread called "My latest 1st world bitch" or similar. But yes, at least I can go out and buy 95% percent of the stuff I want (of which about 30-50% is not essential for a healthy life) and have the means to transport, store and prepare it.
But I still tend to bitch when that 5% is not available
when I
want it.
Well, a nice Australian lady at Tesco phoned me (hmm, I only gave my email in the survey - but I do have previous and have a loyalty card), listened to my more moderated (with jokes) rant and promised to do what she could. She will be contacting the local duty manager about tge matters concerning staff behaviour (this is about the fifth time in 20 years, fast turnover in staff at our store) and will be passing other matters up the chain.
It occured to me, and I made it a point during the call, that putting vitamin D on the bottom shelf is not good for those liable to need it the most - the elderly. I can bend with no problem but I know several, younger than I, who might have difficulties.
I also told her of the well dressed elderly lady who threw her basket to the floor, shouted, "I hate this fucking place!" and walked out. Though I used "effing" of course
I will not hold my breath waiting for improvements.
I will not say that the local Sainsbury's is shopping heaven but the get my consistent 9/10 to Tescos 6/10 (on a good day).
I take Tank's point that it's a first world issue and this does make me feel guilty about complaining, but we have to keep the pressure up because they will do the least possible for the customer that they need to in order for the money to keep coming in for their shareholders. Well done Dave for actually persevering until you spoke to someone voice to voice.