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General => Ethics => Topic started by: LegendarySandwich on January 03, 2011, 10:59:46 PM

Title: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: LegendarySandwich on January 03, 2011, 10:59:46 PM
Here's a link that proves that atheists are immoral! (https://web.archive.org/web/20091103194541/https://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html#A81gEe0H2XgZ)

I mean, look at this!


Moral Behaviors of Evangelicals vs. Atheists
Sin    Evangelicals    Atheists
Viewing pornography    12%    50%
Profanity in public    16    60
Gambling    2    7
Gossiping    4    34
Sex with non-spouse    3    7
Retaliation    ?    11
Drunkenness    0.5    33
Lying        1      ?
Average    6    29

I mean, viewing pornography? Cussing? Having sex outside of marriage? Clearly these are hugely immoral behaviors these damned Satan-worshiping atheists are partaking in!

But wait! There's more!

Look at this graph: (https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.godandscience.org%2Fimages%2Fmorality.gif&hash=c3523d76a1b105baea5e7906031bf0dc14d80446)

Liberals A.K.A. God-less atheists tend to view in-group loyalty, authority, and purity as far less relevant to moral judgement than harm and fairness! Those sick bastards! Clearly purity, authority, and in-group loyalty are very, very important!

But, seriously. This site cracks me up. I know most people who visit that site will be Christian, but do they honestly see these as big moral issues?
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: The Magic Pudding on January 04, 2011, 12:55:55 AM
That's funny, it looks to me like the Liberals are comparatively good people.
What's wrong with these guys, can't they read a simple table?
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: LegendarySandwich on January 04, 2011, 12:58:04 AM
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"That's funny, it looks to me like the Liberals are comparatively good people.
What's wrong with these guys, can't they read a simple table?
What's funny to me is that I'm not even disputing the statistics, although I'm almost sure they're not entirely accurate.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: EssejSllim on January 04, 2011, 02:03:22 AM
I'm surprised that a single Evangelical admitted to viewing pornography. I'm curious as to how this survey was taken. It seems to have a lot of ?'s rather than numbers, which makes me question its validity.

Besides, the only of these behaviors that I would usually consider immoral is lying.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: LegendarySandwich on January 04, 2011, 02:07:53 AM
Quote from: "EssejSllim"I'm surprised that a single Evangelical admitted to viewing pornography. I'm curious as to how this survey was taken. It seems to have a lot of ?'s rather than numbers, which makes me question its validity.

Besides, the only of these behaviors that I would usually consider immoral is lying.
I agree, and even the immorality of lying I would question. Most lies people tell are "white lies", which are generally acceptable to me.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: Recusant on January 04, 2011, 02:23:09 AM
Hmm.  Though I don't have any strong evidence to back up the following, it only makes sense in light of the information presented by the impeccable source cited in the OP:

The fact that atheists make up a disproportionately small percentage of the US prison population (https://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/18197-survey-reveals-only-02-of-prisoners-identify-as-atheists) can be explained by the well known sneaky and devious behavior of atheists.  They're just better at getting away with their crimes is all.  The possible link between atheism and intelligence (https://archive.ph/jzLiY) probably has something to do with this as well.  If true, it could be inferred that atheists make cleverer criminals, and therefore are less likely to get caught.  Don't worry though, God will sort them out when they all go to Hell!  :devil:
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: LARA on January 04, 2011, 04:00:53 AM
Atheists gossip more than evangelicals?   lol
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: Heretical Rants on January 04, 2011, 05:59:11 AM
Quote from: "LARA"Atheists gossip more than evangelicals?   lol
Yeah, that one sounded off to me, too.

I thought this was a parody site, though?
NVM, I looked a the rest of the site more closely; it seems to be sincere.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: LegendarySandwich on January 04, 2011, 03:53:52 PM
Quote from: "Heretical Rants"
Quote from: "LARA"Atheists gossip more than evangelicals?   roflol
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: terranus on January 04, 2011, 07:33:51 PM
Methinks the "lying" statistic for Evangelicals should be a smidge higher. Say like, oh I don't know, maybe 50 points or so.  ;)
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: DJAkuma on January 05, 2011, 08:20:03 AM
Yeah, I think the only thing the survey really tells us is that religious people lie a lot more than atheists.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: ForTheLoveOfAll on March 05, 2011, 04:03:55 PM
Do correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the prison population only 2% Atheist?

Naughty naughty, theists.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: Sophus on March 05, 2011, 04:46:10 PM
Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"
Quote from: "The Magic Pudding"That's funny, it looks to me like the Liberals are comparatively good people.
What's wrong with these guys, can't they read a simple table?
What's funny to me is that I'm not even disputing the statistics, although I'm almost sure they're not entirely accurate.
I was thinking the same thing. This is where they're getting their data (http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/16-teensnext-gen/25-young-adults-and-liberals-struggle-with-morality) which is clearly biased, but that bias may only extend to how the researcher defines morality.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: Tank on March 05, 2011, 05:15:21 PM
Quote from: "ForTheLoveOfAll"Do correct me if I'm wrong here, but isn't the prison population only 2% Atheist?

Naughty naughty, theists.
I think you're right, but it has been pointed out that sucking up to God in prison can shave significant amounts of time off one's sentence.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: MarcusA on April 24, 2023, 12:37:16 PM
Obviously, child abuse doesn't rate a mention in the list. I have a list of things to do soon. I think that I will add a reminder to blaspheme at least once a day. Thank God for children, their minds are not fully formed and cannot comprehend the true madness of a world beyond here. Thank God, I am an atheist.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: Old Seer on April 24, 2023, 04:40:13 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on April 24, 2023, 12:37:16 PMObviously, child abuse doesn't rate a mention in the list. I have a list of things to do soon. I think that I will add a reminder to blaspheme at least once a day. Thank God for children, their minds are not fully formed and cannot comprehend the true madness of a world beyond here. Thank God, I am an atheist.
We are all swimming in the same murky pond searching for the areas of the cleanest waters.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: MarcusA on April 24, 2023, 11:18:54 PM
Quote from: Old Seer on April 24, 2023, 04:40:13 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on April 24, 2023, 12:37:16 PMObviously, child abuse doesn't rate a mention in the list. I have a list of things to do soon. I think that I will add a reminder to blaspheme at least once a day. Thank God for children, their minds are not fully formed and cannot comprehend the true madness of a world beyond here. Thank God, I am an atheist.
We are all swimming in the same murky pond searching for the areas of the cleanest waters.

This reminds me of a quote from Oscar Wilde about how we are all in the gutter but some of us are looking at the stars.
Title: Re: Proof That Atheists are Immoral!
Post by: MarcusA on May 03, 2023, 08:52:55 PM
Is morality objective? Of course, it's not.