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General => Politics => Topic started by: Ecurb Noselrub on December 08, 2022, 04:58:41 PM

Title: Brittney Griner
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on December 08, 2022, 04:58:41 PM
She was released from a Russian prison today, so that is good news. Some sage advice - stay out of Russia. Some paprika advice - stay out of Hungary.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Tom62 on December 08, 2022, 05:34:52 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on December 08, 2022, 04:58:41 PMShe was released from a Russian prison today, so that is good news. Some sage advice - stay out of Russia. Some paprika advice - stay out of Hungary.

I heard that they exchanged her for an arms dealer, which basically means that the Russians got the better end of the deal.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: billy rubin on December 08, 2022, 05:36:31 PM
they still have other american hostages
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: No one on December 08, 2022, 07:43:56 PM
Exchanging one shooter for another.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Icarus on December 09, 2022, 12:28:15 AM
Ruskies definitely got the better end of the deal. We trade a sports star for an international arms dealer.

One has to wonder whether the arms dealer can help Russia  obtain additional armament.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Asmodean on December 09, 2022, 07:11:58 AM
Yeah... Good for her and all that, however, this is a win for Putin.

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on December 08, 2022, 04:58:41 PMShe was released from a Russian prison today, so that is good news. Some sage advice - stay out of Russia. Some paprika advice - stay out of Hungary.
Indeed. If you do must go to one of them places, however, make sure that you don't bring anything that will get your ass arrested with you.

That said though, Hungary is not bad. At least from what I know, they are no worse at giving foreigners long sentences than Finland.

Personally, I have a few places on the map I'd rather not visit before I die. Somalia, North Korea, both Sudans, Myanmar, cartel war parts of South America, Russia, Haiti, Bangladesh, Belarus, Palestine... A few others. Still, people have been on successful recreational trips to all of them. I think chances are that if you travel properly prepared for your destination that it will be just fine.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on December 09, 2022, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on December 09, 2022, 07:11:58 AMYeah... Good for her and all that, however, this is a win for Putin.

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on December 08, 2022, 04:58:41 PMShe was released from a Russian prison today, so that is good news. Some sage advice - stay out of Russia. Some paprika advice - stay out of Hungary.
Indeed. If you do must go to one of them places, however, make sure that you don't bring anything that will get your ass arrested with you.

That said though, Hungary is not bad. At least from what I know, they are no worse at giving foreigners long sentences than Finland.

Personally, I have a few places on the map I'd rather not visit before I die. Somalia, North Korea, both Sudans, Myanmar, cartel war parts of South America, Russia, Haiti, Bangladesh, Belarus, Palestine... A few others. Still, people have been on successful recreational trips to all of them. I think chances are that if you travel properly prepared for your destination that it will be just fine.

Best to avoid Luxembourg too, Ive heard there's an evil megalomaniac bent on its destruction.
Could be any day now, you wouldn't want to be there at the wrong time.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Asmodean on December 09, 2022, 10:48:11 AM
Indeed, although it's better not to tell. would ruin the element of surprise.

...but yes, aaaaany moment now... :smilenod:
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Tank on December 09, 2022, 12:10:01 PM
It was a good trade. The arms dealer got traded, not pardoned. If he turns up and gets caught he goes straight back to prison, where he can be traded again. The appropriate authorities can now watch who the arms dealer interacts with at a fresh starting point. He will act as a catalyst exposing contacts and networks.   
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Dark Lightning on December 09, 2022, 12:27:56 PM
^ That's a good point!
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Tom62 on December 09, 2022, 01:33:16 PM
I hope that you are right, but I have zero trust that they can keep him under control. Most likely the merchant of death goes back into his dirty arms business, which will results in hurting and killing more people. I find this trade-off highly irresponsible.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: jumbojak on December 09, 2022, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 09, 2022, 12:10:01 PMIt was a good trade. The arms dealer got traded, not pardoned. If he turns up and gets caught he goes straight back to prison, where he can be traded again. The appropriate authorities can now watch who the arms dealer interacts with at a fresh starting point. He will act as a catalyst exposing contacts and networks.   

Bout armed terrorists and rebels who killed thousands, including British soldiers and he will likely be back in business very shortly. I don't see how that's a fair trade for a basketball player.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Tank on December 09, 2022, 06:36:43 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on December 09, 2022, 01:33:16 PMI hope that you are right, but I have zero trust that they can keep him under control. Most likely the merchant of death goes back into his dirty arms business, which will results in hurting and killing more people. I find this trade-off highly irresponsible.

He's been out of the loop for 12 years. I think it was a canny trade off. It's possible he simply paid off people to trade him.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Icarus on December 09, 2022, 11:17:04 PM
The word is, if it is true, that a two for one trade was not an option. We will continue to try to trade someone of value to Vladimir, for our guy Paul Whelan.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on December 13, 2022, 11:01:58 PM
It was him for her, or nothing. What would you have done? Left her there? I'm fine with it. We have charged several Ruskies with crimes today. Maybe we can trade them for Whelan.
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: billy rubin on December 14, 2022, 12:26:53 AM
my sister liv3d in bangladedh for several yea4s. not a bad place, considering.

not like chad.

burma has been bad for as long as i can remember, althougb my best buddy in high school was a burman
Title: Re: Brittney Griner
Post by: Anne D. on December 15, 2022, 05:12:48 AM
I'm glad she's home. I almost don't want to know what "they" did to get her home beyond what's been said in public about the exchange.