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kent state

Started by billy rubin, May 04, 2020, 05:07:25 PM

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billy rubin

50 yearz ago today, the ohio national guard shot four young americans to death at kent state university. not demonstrating, as i recall. juzt walking to classez or staning around within rifle range.

others were shot and bayoneted, but not killed.

a nasty businezz all around.

the numbers of deaths is insignificant by modern standards, but tbe aftermath was politically earthshaking in america.8


more people have been to berlin than i have

hermes2015

This is probably relevant, although written earlier.

"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

Recusant

The political fallout wasn't about the numbers, it was the powers and people involved. Armed representatives of the government fired on unarmed civilian protestors and killed some of them. If that were to happen in the US today there would be serious fallout as well, and rightly so.
"Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration — courage, clear thinking, honesty, fairness, and above all, love of the truth."
— H. L. Mencken


billy rubin

yes.

i knew a fellow who ws a student there t the time. it was tense on all sides.  but there was no reason to bring in armed troops to an open university. it was totally brainless on the part of the governor.

hermes, this one was directly relevant



more people have been to berlin than i have

hermes2015

Quote from: billy rubin on May 04, 2020, 08:43:26 PM
yes.

i knew a fellow who ws a student there t the time. it was tense on all sides.  but there was no reason to bring in armed troops to an open university. it was totally brainless on the part of the governor.

hermes, this one was directly relevant



Oh yes, I'd forgotten about that one.
"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

Icarus

My nephew, Blaise, was in the troops that were involved in the travesty at Kent state. He was a decent kid who came away with what we now call PTSD.  It haunted him for a long time after that event.

billy rubin

my friend told me that getting caught alone in an alley if you were a guardsman might have been worth your life.

it was a messy thing. apparently there were outsiders hell bent on creating  a pop ublic incident, and they got one.


more people have been to berlin than i have