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Title: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on November 29, 2022, 01:17:43 PM
Books, what is the preferred format now?

I prefer reading from a cheap tablet, you can set to console and read in the dark.
Sepia contrast if light from that annoying star is seeping through.
I've heaps of nefariously got digi books a few finger movements away.
Going to reread The Rings, going to go the shelf for the paper? No

I might be getting a new person to read to next year, so I pray :)
I've been allocated a day, I think only proper books will do.

Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Asmodean on November 29, 2022, 01:44:08 PM
I like good old paper for the charm, but rely more heavily on audiobooks for convenience. For instance, it's rather on an ill-advised side to read while driving.

I've never managed to acquire taste for reading books on tablets - dedicated or otherwise.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: No one on November 29, 2022, 01:46:45 PM
Osmosis.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: billy rubin on November 29, 2022, 02:27:45 PM
lots of what i read is available only in old paper books. 

but thats changing

https://www.scribd.com/doc/15392252/Tuning-for-Speed-P-E-Irving-1965-Tuning-Racing-Motorcycle-Engines

https://vdoc.pub/download/scientific-design-of-exhaust-and-intake-systems-7osao51vdbc0
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Tank on November 29, 2022, 05:18:17 PM
Still paper. Tried a Kindle. It was Ok but the screen was too small. If I set it to landscape to get the text to a comfortable size I ended up scrolling and losing my place all the time. In portrait the text was too small.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 29, 2022, 07:55:51 PM
Paper. Kill more trees.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Tank on November 29, 2022, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on November 29, 2022, 07:55:51 PMPaper. Kill more trees.

Actually as the trees are turned into paper the carbon is locked up in the books. Thus books save the planet by causing more trees to be planted. :)

The down side is mature trees that are still growing sequestrate way more carbon from the atmosphere than young saplings per acre. Maybe we could make books from recycled plastic?
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Tank on November 29, 2022, 08:13:01 PM
Hemp Paper May Cost More But Its Environmental Benefits Are Worth It (https://locoso.co/hemp-paper-may-cost-more-but-its-environmental-benefits-are-worth-it/)
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Recusant on November 29, 2022, 09:15:03 PM
Have enjoyed audio books immensely while driving, but still mostly read physical books. I got some digital ones and don't mind them, but it's dismaying when the technology goes down.  :(
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 29, 2022, 09:41:43 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 29, 2022, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on November 29, 2022, 07:55:51 PMPaper. Kill more trees.

Actually as the trees are turned into paper the carbon is locked up in the books. Thus books save the planet by causing more trees to be planted. :)

The down side is mature trees that are still growing sequestrate way more carbon from the atmosphere than young saplings per acre. Maybe we could make books from recycled plastic?

There are forests here in the US that are raised specifically for paper. They harvest at a fairly young age. Mostly conifers. You can drive through Oregon and see vast forests of young trees that were planted by paper companies.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: billy rubin on November 29, 2022, 11:53:56 PM
huge ecological deserts, those are.

giant cornfields.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Recusant on November 30, 2022, 01:17:48 AM
Not quite, but close. Second and third growth plantations in Oregon are nowhere near as ecologically diverse as old growth forests, and in the first 20 years or so they can approach the sterility of cornfields. However, many of the plantations in Oregon are Douglas fir, and not intended for pulp wood. They are generally not harvested till around 40 years at minimum, by which time some ecological diversity will have developed.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 30, 2022, 02:42:49 AM
I shouldn't have called them forests. They really are a plantation, in that sense. There is still plenty of wild forest.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: jumbojak on November 30, 2022, 03:43:15 AM
I'm almost strictly audiobooks now. Reading more than an article at a time triggers migraines.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Asmodean on November 30, 2022, 07:39:47 AM
Quote from: Tank on November 29, 2022, 08:13:01 PMHemp Paper May Cost More But Its Environmental Benefits Are Worth It (https://locoso.co/hemp-paper-may-cost-more-but-its-environmental-benefits-are-worth-it/)
Could also be used to roll other hemp products into tube shapes in a pinch. :smilenod:
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Tank on November 30, 2022, 08:48:17 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on November 30, 2022, 07:39:47 AM
Quote from: Tank on November 29, 2022, 08:13:01 PMHemp Paper May Cost More But Its Environmental Benefits Are Worth It (https://locoso.co/hemp-paper-may-cost-more-but-its-environmental-benefits-are-worth-it/)
Could also be used to roll other hemp products into tube shapes in a pinch. :smilenod:

Yes. However on the fun side France has developed a hemp free of psychoactive chemicals specifically for agricultural use. There have been problems with police arresting farmers growing  it and pot heads stealing whole fields!
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Asmodean on November 30, 2022, 09:14:49 PM
Well, yeah, but it's the French. :-P

Actually, I kinda' see potential police scepticism if the plants look identical. One could then camouflage some of one among the other. At least, I'm sure people would try.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: MarcusA on May 27, 2023, 08:43:44 AM
I owned a Touchscreen Kindle once. Never again, I'd try to turn the page and it'd skip several pages forward. A simple manual device would do.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Tank on May 27, 2023, 09:58:48 AM
Paper still my favourite.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: No one on May 27, 2023, 01:48:57 PM
Osmosis.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: MarcusA on May 27, 2023, 10:45:12 PM
Quote from: No one on May 27, 2023, 01:48:57 PMOsmosis.

How I wish.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: billy rubin on May 27, 2023, 11:03:37 PM
some stuff i read online. some stuff i buy kindles.

other things are so old and esoteric that i read them n crumblnig papper.

https://www.amazon.com/Scientific-Exhaust-Systems-Engineering-Performance/dp/0837603099

https://www.amazon.com/Motorcycle-Engineering-Phil-Irving-1973-08-02/dp/B01K3ROFD2

and this

https://www.amazon.com/Thirty-One-Years-Plains-Mountains-Authentic/dp/1143574311

^^^available in kindle. my ancient 19th centrury copy fro my grandfather was crumbling n acid paper, but it didnt matter because i lost it in the floods. but i cn recover it on th enet and may try. it was a racist period piece, but you cannot judge the past by the present, only refuse to honor and repeat it.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: Tank on May 28, 2023, 08:30:12 AM
That last one looks particularly interesting.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: billy rubin on May 28, 2023, 07:16:53 PM
i havent read it in almost 50 years.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: MarcusA on May 28, 2023, 11:50:26 PM
Hardware doesn't have the same feel as paper, and a book does look handsome on a shelf. A computer just crunches numbers, a book is just crunchy.
Title: Re: Books, what is the preferred format now?
Post by: MarcusA on July 18, 2023, 05:08:54 AM
Computers will have to get helluva lot more sophisticated before they replace books.