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Eighteen seems like it's a little high of a number. Maybe sixteen? I mean, isn't that when a lot of kids want to have one? If they can't get one legally, then they'll go somewhere where they serve minors, which are usually more dangerous. Of course, I could be talking out of my ass here.

As for gun rights...a sanity check and mandatory gun training course don't seem too unreasonable, I suppose.

I bet if 16 year olds were allowed to get tattoos, most of them would regret it later.

Quote from: "Cecilie"I bet if 16 year olds were allowed to get tattoos, most of them would regret it later.

Possibly, but teenagers later regret a lot of stupid decisions they have made. Should we make it illegal for them to do stupid things they might later regret?

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Quote from: "Cecilie"I bet if 16 year olds were allowed to get tattoos, most of them would regret it later.

Possibly, but teenagers later regret a lot of stupid decisions they have made. Should we make it illegal for them to do stupid things they might later regret?

Tattoos are permanent though.

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Quote from: "Cecilie"I bet if 16 year olds were allowed to get tattoos, most of them would regret it later.

Possibly, but teenagers later regret a lot of stupid decisions they have made. Should we make it illegal for them to do stupid things they might later regret?

Tattoos are permanent though.

So? There are plenty of other permanent mistakes that teenagers can and do make often, which ties into my first point. And what about laser tattoo removal? I've heard it's expensive and painful, but it's possible.

Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"So? There are plenty of other permanent mistakes that teenagers can and do make often, which ties into my first point. And what about laser tattoo removal? I've heard it's expensive and painful, but it's possible.

Is getting a tattoo really that important that they can't wait two years?

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Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"So? There are plenty of other permanent mistakes that teenagers can and do make often, which ties into my first point. And what about laser tattoo removal? I've heard it's expensive and painful, but it's possible.

Is getting a tattoo really that important that they can't wait two years?

You're missing the point. What I'm saying is that they'll want to get a tattoo anyways, and then they'll go to shoddy, second-rate tattoo parlors that could possibly be dangerous.

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Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"So? There are plenty of other permanent mistakes that teenagers can and do make often, which ties into my first point. And what about laser tattoo removal? I've heard it's expensive and painful, but it's possible.

Is getting a tattoo really that important that they can't wait two years?

You're missing the point. What I'm saying is that they'll want to get a tattoo anyways, and then they'll go to shoddy, second-rate tattoo parlors that could possibly be dangerous.

Why not make it 14 while we're at it?

Quote from: "Cecilie"Why not make it 14 while we're at it?

Hey, that's a great idea! Since I want to get a tattoo so bad right now, and I base all of my political arguments and ideas off of my current age.

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Quote from: "Cecilie"Why not make it 14 while we're at it?

Hey, that's a great idea! Since I want to get a tattoo so bad right now, and I base all of my political arguments and ideas off of my current age.

I'm not sure I get what you mean.

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Quote from: "Cecilie"Why not make it 14 while we're at it?

Hey, that's a great idea! Since I want to get a tattoo so bad right now, and I base all of my political arguments and ideas off of my current age.

I'm not sure I get what you mean.

It was sarcasm. I interpreted that as you meaning that you thought I just think the way I do about this issue because I want to get a tattoo, or something like that. If you didn't, I apologize.

I just feel that sixteen is a more appropriate age -- mostly because I assume that's the age when most teenagers want to get a tattoo.

Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"It was sarcasm. I interpreted that as you meaning that you thought I just think the way I do about this issue because I want to get a tattoo, or something like that. If you didn't, I apologize.

I just feel that sixteen is a more appropriate age -- mostly because I assume that's the age when most teenagers want to get a tattoo.

Yes, I know it was sarcasm. And no, I didn't think that.

And I disagree with letting 16 year olds getting a tattoo. Now, I don't want to use your age against you, but I know that when I was 14 I thought 16 year olds seemed pretty grown up. I found out, they're not. At all.

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Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"It was sarcasm. I interpreted that as you meaning that you thought I just think the way I do about this issue because I want to get a tattoo, or something like that. If you didn't, I apologize.

I just feel that sixteen is a more appropriate age -- mostly because I assume that's the age when most teenagers want to get a tattoo.

Yes, I know it was sarcasm. And no, I didn't think that.

And I disagree with letting 16 year olds getting a tattoo. Now, I don't want to use your age against you, but I know that when I was 14 I thought 16 year olds seemed pretty grown up. I found out, they're not. At all.

I know they're not. But eighteen year olds aren't really that "grown-up" either.

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Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"It was sarcasm. I interpreted that as you meaning that you thought I just think the way I do about this issue because I want to get a tattoo, or something like that. If you didn't, I apologize.

I just feel that sixteen is a more appropriate age -- mostly because I assume that's the age when most teenagers want to get a tattoo.

Yes, I know it was sarcasm. And no, I didn't think that.

And I disagree with letting 16 year olds getting a tattoo. Now, I don't want to use your age against you, but I know that when I was 14 I thought 16 year olds seemed pretty grown up. I found out, they're not. At all.

I know they're not. But eighteen year olds aren't really that "grown-up" either.

Nope.

Well, since guns are in the title...

In the US you have to be 21 to buy a handgun, 18 to buy a rifle/shotgun, and you can't have a handgun under 18 except for hunting/target shooting/etc, although your parents can give you a rifle/shotgun at whatever age they deem fit.

Some states have stricter regulations. For example, in Oregon no minors can possess firearms at all and in Texas they have to have signed permission from a parent.

I've owned my gun(a handy semi-automatic rifle) since I was 6. I don't think that I was too young.

My younger cousins each owned several guns before they were 10, and they make their own bullets as a hobby.

Quote from: "Cecilie"Nope.

"Nope", as in, "I agree", or "I disagree"?

If they are too immature to wait till they are 18 they are too immature to be legally getting a tattoo in the first place.  At least having these laws in place keeps crappy parents from having their children tattooed.

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Quote from: "Cecilie"Nope.

"Nope", as in, "I agree", or "I disagree"?

Nope as in I agree that 18 years olds aren't that mature.

Quote from: "LegendarySandwich"You're missing the point. What I'm saying is that they'll want to get a tattoo anyways, and then they'll go to shoddy, second-rate tattoo parlors that could possibly be dangerous.

What I think the point should be is that before you're fully grown, getting a tattoo is ill-advised since it can and often will become distorted as your body grows. 18 is a good number for that reason alone.  

I got a tattoo when I was 18, and I regret it. Guess what it is? I'll give you a hint: