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General => History => Topic started by: MarcusA on May 27, 2023, 10:37:39 PM

Title: What is history?
Post by: MarcusA on May 27, 2023, 10:37:39 PM
What is history but reasoning over the past.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: MarcusA on May 27, 2023, 10:41:51 PM
The one charm of the past is that it is the past. - Oscar Wilde
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: MarcusA on May 27, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
You cannot judge the past by the present, only refuse to honor and repeat it. - billy rubin
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: billy rubin on May 28, 2023, 12:06:17 AM
did i say that?

it does make sense, i acknowledge.

i grew up surrounded by racism. i refuse to make it psrt of my world view.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: MarcusA on May 28, 2023, 02:06:11 AM
Religion is not history yet, goddamn it.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: Tank on May 28, 2023, 08:27:12 AM
Lots of religions are history. They just keep reinventing themselves like Madonna. As long as there are gullible people and others willing to exploit them there will be faith based belief systems because humans like emotional comfort blankets.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: Old Seer on May 28, 2023, 04:11:32 PM
History is the record of the mentality of leaders and it's results.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: billy rubin on May 28, 2023, 07:25:27 PM
a lot of it is certainly no more than that. memorizing ancient politics is what passes for history for lots of people.

but history is also the stories of the development of technology, of the greater understanding of the earth sciences, of biology and mapmaking and food preservation and the invention of the zipper.

im more interested in the deveopment of the steam engine than i am in the affairs of the house of tudor. or windsor.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: No one on May 28, 2023, 08:51:15 PM
HISTORY, n. An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools.

AB
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: MarcusA on May 28, 2023, 10:48:19 PM
A proper history of Him hasn't been written.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: MarcusA on May 31, 2023, 11:56:06 PM
Jesus the man cannot be separated from the myth.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: No one on June 01, 2023, 01:27:07 AM
Have you tried mace and a crowbar?
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: MarcusA on June 01, 2023, 05:22:11 AM
I could use a hammer, I guess.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: Asmodean on June 05, 2023, 09:01:37 AM
Quote from: No one on May 28, 2023, 08:51:15 PMHISTORY, n. An account mostly false, of events mostly unimportant, which are brought about by rulers mostly knaves, and soldiers mostly fools.

AB
Heh. Isn't it though?

The history of wars seems to be far better documented and/or fantasised about than the rest of it. Some rulers have cemented their legacy in eternity, in splendid tombs of tales of conquest and brilliance, one must assume on the backs of their subjects, who did most of the heavy lifting, including the actual planning, building and maintenance of the actual, physical tomb.

I just want to know who came up with a wood turning lathe some millennia ago... On the other hand, that crafty individual still lives on in more than books we read in school - and in more than a name.

What is history, if not an attempt to shape one's own legacy, or uncover one already shaped and pass judgement upon it from the heights of Mount Present? Thing is, it is much more than that - but that sort of history takes work to piece together and is filled with minutia of everyday life. It's not just a tale of the ever-chivalrous knights battling the ever-villainous dragons. It's also a tale of what said knight's servant tossed in the cesspit after a dinner, eaten a thousand years ago.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: MarcusA on June 18, 2023, 02:30:52 AM
History is bunk. - Henry Ford

History is best left in the past.
Title: Re: What is history?
Post by: No one on June 18, 2023, 04:08:16 AM
I feel like something is being repeated.