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Title: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: billy rubin on March 04, 2023, 10:35:57 PM
we all go, sooner or later

a good friend of mine has got a week or two to go

hes th eguy that got me into motorcycle racing, and his machine still holds the number two position n top speed LSR, after mine. he was diagnosed with esophogeal cancer  four years ago-=- the deadly one-- and they told him to tak eradiation and chemo, but that he had jst a few years left.

so three weeks or so ago it finally hit, and he went from a normally agile 75 year-old to being unable to get out of a chair by himself,, in a day.

right now hes either asleep or on so many painkillers that he cant talk n the telephone. i keep calling to see whether i can catch him at a good time, but it hasnt happened.

anyway, hes accomplished a lot in his life. i biought this 25-year old buell from him and took it to 132 mph at the races.

(https://i.imgur.com/HHwuxKll.jpg)

and hes done a lot of impressive work since ive met him\

(https://i.imgur.com/kOjX6lAl.png)

a good guy, all around. the world will be a poorer placein a week or two.



Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: jumbojak on March 05, 2023, 01:23:06 PM
Esophageal cancer is a bitter way to go. A friend lost his father to it. I'm sorry for you and your friend Billy.
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Anne D. on March 05, 2023, 04:48:12 PM
I'm so sorry about your friend, billy.
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 05, 2023, 05:23:38 PM
Sad to see you losing a friend, Billy.  :therethere:
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: billy rubin on March 05, 2023, 05:43:18 PM
yes

but as i said, we all go sooner or later

ill call agsin tomorrow and see what happens
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Asmodean on March 06, 2023, 11:08:22 AM
Yes... The inevitable result of life, towards which we all race at the speed of time. Personally, I think death should be a celebration of a life well lived, if even remotely well lived it was. That attitude does tend to get spoiled by the process of it though, which... Can be a tad depressing, let us say. It... dims the milestones reached and heights climbed. But I shan't gloom too much.

Best wishes!
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: billy rubin on March 06, 2023, 04:24:16 PM
ill call again this afternoon
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: billy rubin on March 11, 2023, 10:48:37 PM
well, spoke to him yesterday morning. he hasnt eaten in seven days, feeling pretty week. but hes swapped out of the morphine onto something that doesnt fog hs head so much, and we talked for about 40 minutes.

odd to say goodbye forever to someone for the last time every day or two. hes interested in seeing whats happening next, if anything. he classifies himeself as spiritual, but not religious. they asked him if he wanted to talk to a generic spiritual advisor, and he said, sure, send on over. it would be a break from the two peopl ehe normally has there, either his wife or the suicide-prevention specialist from the hospice. dunno why theyre so concerned about suicide. a strange taboo.

a friend of mine is also keeping up with him. tried to call him yestrday but he was asleep.
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 12, 2023, 12:18:33 AM
Good to see that you got a chance to talk with him. :smilenod: It's a pretty warped sense of priorities some people have. He could die at any time, but better not do it to himself. Meddling busybodies. When one of my younger brothers was in hospice and busy dying, with enough morphine to kill a rhino in his system, his son's pastor kept calling him, to repent. If I had been in the room when a call like that came in, I'd've blistered his ear with some "repent".  >:(
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: billy rubin on March 12, 2023, 01:41:23 AM
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 12, 2023, 02:50:06 AM
Morrison only lost a girlfriend in that song. Sorry, Billy. :therethere:
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Tom62 on March 12, 2023, 07:02:48 AM
That is sad news. Sorry, Billy.
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Tank on March 12, 2023, 08:44:16 AM
I would think that the anti-suicide advisor is a result of the litigious American attitude. They are there as a box tick so when a person dies their remaining relatives can't sue the organisation for failing to care for their now dead relative. Plus the fact that there probably has to be an autopsy on everybody when they die. If a person killed themselves the organisation would have a shit load of paperwork to do at the very least to explain why the person had access to the means to kill themselves. A suicide may also cast a shadow over the staff ie did somebody actively kill (murder) the person. If somebody got their shits and giggles killing people what better place to do it than a hospice? So while the law does not allow assisted suicide I would think the hospice would need a suicide counselor for their own protection.

I expect Bruce can shed more light on this. 
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Dark Lightning on March 12, 2023, 02:46:08 PM
I hadn't thought of that. I learn new things all the time!
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on March 13, 2023, 07:30:34 AM
Quote from: Tank on March 12, 2023, 08:44:16 AMat the very least to explain why the person had access to the means to kill themselves.

They don't take their guns away do they?
That would be outrageous.  >:(
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Asmodean on March 13, 2023, 08:03:25 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding. on March 13, 2023, 07:30:34 AM
Quote from: Tank on March 12, 2023, 08:44:16 AMat the very least to explain why the person had access to the means to kill themselves.

They don't take their guns away do they?
That would be outrageous.  >:(

You can strangle yourself with your own underwear in a pinch. Open up a few veins with your own teeth if you happen to be naked in a padded room. A tad gruesome, but it is an option.

My point is; it's less a matter of tools and more that of determination. Someone who really wants to not be alive anymore will find an opportunity and exploit the shit out of it. If not today - there is always tomorrow. Or the next day, or the next.
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: billy rubin on March 13, 2023, 03:47:12 PM
well i called today and nobody answered and nobody has called back.
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Tank on March 13, 2023, 03:59:03 PM
 :(
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Asmodean on March 13, 2023, 04:11:53 PM
Doesn't sound too encouraging. Let us hope it is for a benign reason.
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Recusant on March 13, 2023, 05:56:59 PM
It's a genuine drag when good people leave us. Sorry to hear that another one is on the way out.  :blue tear:
Title: Re: a good friend of mine is dying
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on March 14, 2023, 10:23:23 AM
Just now seeing this, billy. I've been out of town on business. Sorry about this - it is never easy watching someone go down.