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Title: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: MarcusA on July 06, 2023, 02:19:26 AM
I treat the ridiculous seriously when I treat it with ridicule. - Karl Marx

Obviously, it's an option; and just as obviously, not the best option.
Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: MarcusA on July 06, 2023, 02:58:39 AM
The religious are ridiculous, political or spiritual.
Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: MarcusA on July 10, 2023, 05:17:37 PM
The ridiculous cannot be defeated by ridicule.
Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: Recusant on July 10, 2023, 08:59:00 PM
To complete the quote from Marx (he was writing about censorship):

"... and the most serious immodesty of the mind is to be modest in the face of immodesty.

"Serious and modest! What fluctuating, relative concepts! Where does seriousness cease and jocularity begin? Where does modesty cease and immodesty begin? We are dependent on the temperament of the censor. It would be as wrong to prescribe temperament for the censor as to prescribe style for the writer. If you want to be consistent in your aesthetic criticism, then forbid also a too serious and too modest investigation of the truth, for too great seriousness is the most ludicrous thing of all, and too great modesty is the bitterest irony."

I don't know whether he goes on to describe what he means by "too serious." He had a lot to say (https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1842/02/10.htm), and I'm not sure I want to spend the time. ;)
Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: No one on July 10, 2023, 09:34:54 PM
When ridicule doth fail, clubs, bats, knives, chains prevail. Or so I've been told.
Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: MarcusA on July 14, 2023, 08:27:56 AM
Seriousness takes a serious mind and screws with it.
Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on July 14, 2023, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on July 14, 2023, 08:27:56 AMSeriousness takes a serious mind and screws with it.

A mind would have to be pretty screwed to come up with that sentence, battle lost before begun.
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Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: MarcusA on July 14, 2023, 06:56:17 PM
To dismiss out of hand any form of seriousness is a serious error. To inquire deeper, one should have an open mind, so as to dismiss any form of foolishness with a flip of the hand.
Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: MarcusA on July 28, 2023, 02:15:07 AM
Dullness is the coming of age of seriousness.
- Oscar Wilde
Title: Re: Is ridicule an option in philosophy?
Post by: MarcusA on July 31, 2023, 12:40:39 AM
All ridiculousness must be exterminated within myself.