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Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

Started by Gnostic Christian Bishop, January 29, 2022, 02:31:16 AM

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No one

1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
Venus was in retrograde while Leo slid into Uranus.

2. When and how did you first decide you were heterosexual?
March 32nd 1773

3a. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies?
Peggy Sue
3b.How did they react?
She vomited

4. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a passing phase?
I guess anything is possible, I didn't read the fine print on the contract.

5. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from the neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
No, I hate everyone equally. Almost. trump wins this contest.

6. If you've never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?
I don't like Bleu cheese no matter how you present it.

7. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?
We have cookies.

8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be what you are and keep quiet?
My lips are sealed.

9. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
I guess exposing children would be the best way to root out those molesters.

10. Despite all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiralling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
Stupid is as stupid does.

11. Would you want your children to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they might face?
I want their happiness, above all else.

12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
Orgasms

13. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
Extinction is inevitable.

14. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality, and fail to develop your natural homosexual potential?
I not even a 1/1000 of a person.

15. There seem to be few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered trying aversion therapy?
Are there mushrooms involved?

hermes2015

"Who is to say that pleasure is useless?"
― Charles Eames

No one


Papasito Bruno

Quote from: hermes2015 on January 30, 2022, 04:44:46 AM
I don't know whether this has been posted before, but I thought it would be appropriate in this thread.

Heterosexual Questionnaire
    1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
    2. When and how did you first decide you were heterosexual?
    3. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
    4. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a passing phase?
    5. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from the neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
    6. If you've never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?
    7. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?
    8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be what you are and keep quiet?
    9. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
    10. Despite all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiralling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
    11. Would you want your children to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they might face?
    12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
    13. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
    14. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality, and fail to develop your natural homosexual potential?
    15. There seem to be few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered trying aversion therapy?


I love this Hermes, and if you don't mind I'll be copying, and sharing...thanks for posting. :notworthy:

I think if any theist wants to post something on this forum regarding sexuality, they should first have to answer this questionnaire, and then submit to everyone here for review.  :notes:
"Most people would rather be boring than be bored." <br />― Mokokoma Mokhonoana

Magdalena

Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 09, 2022, 04:04:48 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 30, 2022, 04:44:46 AM
I don't know whether this has been posted before, but I thought it would be appropriate in this thread.

Heterosexual Questionnaire
    1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
    2. When and how did you first decide you were heterosexual?
    3. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
    4. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a passing phase?
    5. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from the neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
    6. If you've never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?
    7. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?
    8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be what you are and keep quiet?
    9. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
    10. Despite all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiralling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
    11. Would you want your children to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they might face?
    12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
    13. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
    14. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality, and fail to develop your natural homosexual potential?
    15. There seem to be few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered trying aversion therapy?


I love this Hermes, and if you don't mind I'll be copying, and sharing...thanks for posting. :notworthy:

I think if any theist wants to post something on this forum regarding sexuality, they should first have to answer this questionnaire, and then submit to everyone here for review.  :notes:
:secrets1:  PB, No one posted it.
Oh, wait, No one actually answered the questions.

Please, continue.  :reading:

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

Papasito Bruno

Quote from: Magdalena on February 09, 2022, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 09, 2022, 04:04:48 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 30, 2022, 04:44:46 AM
I don't know whether this has been posted before, but I thought it would be appropriate in this thread.

Heterosexual Questionnaire
    1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
    2. When and how did you first decide you were heterosexual?
    3. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
    4. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a passing phase?
    5. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from the neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
    6. If you've never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?
    7. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?
    8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be what you are and keep quiet?
    9. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
    10. Despite all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiralling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
    11. Would you want your children to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they might face?
    12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
    13. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
    14. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality, and fail to develop your natural homosexual potential?
    15. There seem to be few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered trying aversion therapy?


I love this Hermes, and if you don't mind I'll be copying, and sharing...thanks for posting. :notworthy:

I think if any theist wants to post something on this forum regarding sexuality, they should first have to answer this questionnaire, and then submit to everyone here for review.  :notes:
:secrets1:  PB, No one posted it.
Oh, wait, No one actually answered the questions.

Please, continue.  :reading:

No Problems Mags,...I remember trying to comprehend things after only one cup of java!! :therethere:
"Most people would rather be boring than be bored." <br />― Mokokoma Mokhonoana

Magdalena

Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 09, 2022, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on February 09, 2022, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 09, 2022, 04:04:48 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 30, 2022, 04:44:46 AM
I don't know whether this has been posted before, but I thought it would be appropriate in this thread.

Heterosexual Questionnaire
    1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
    2. When and how did you first decide you were heterosexual?
    3. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
    4. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a passing phase?
    5. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from the neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
    6. If you've never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?
    7. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?
    8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be what you are and keep quiet?
    9. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
    10. Despite all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiralling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
    11. Would you want your children to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they might face?
    12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
    13. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
    14. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality, and fail to develop your natural homosexual potential?
    15. There seem to be few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered trying aversion therapy?


I love this Hermes, and if you don't mind I'll be copying, and sharing...thanks for posting. :notworthy:

I think if any theist wants to post something on this forum regarding sexuality, they should first have to answer this questionnaire, and then submit to everyone here for review.  :notes:
:secrets1:  PB, No one posted it.
Oh, wait, No one actually answered the questions.

Please, continue.  :reading:

No Problems Mags,...I remember trying to comprehend things after only one cup of java!! :therethere:
How did you know!?
That's incredible!

--By the way, it's good to have you, and your big balls, big penis jokes, here, again.  ;)

Have you seen the poll results this morning?

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

hermes2015

Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 09, 2022, 04:04:48 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 30, 2022, 04:44:46 AM
I don't know whether this has been posted before, but I thought it would be appropriate in this thread.

Heterosexual Questionnaire
    1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
    2. When and how did you first decide you were heterosexual?
    3. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did they react?
    4. Is it possible your heterosexuality is just a passing phase?
    5. Is it possible your heterosexuality stems from the neurotic fear of others of the same sex?
    6. If you've never slept with a person of the same sex, is it possible that all you need is a good gay lover?
    7. Why do heterosexuals feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle?
    8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just be what you are and keep quiet?
    9. A disproportionate majority of child molesters are heterosexuals. Do you consider it safe to expose your children to heterosexual teachers?
    10. Despite all the societal support marriage receives, the divorce rate is spiralling. Why are there so few stable relationships among heterosexuals?
    11. Would you want your children to be heterosexual, knowing the problems they might face?
    12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
    13. Considering the menace of overpopulation, how could the human race survive if everyone were heterosexual?
    14. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive, exclusive heterosexuality, and fail to develop your natural homosexual potential?
    15. There seem to be few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been developed that might enable you to change if you really want to. Have you considered trying aversion therapy?


I love this Hermes, and if you don't mind I'll be copying, and sharing...thanks for posting. :notworthy:

I think if any theist wants to post something on this forum regarding sexuality, they should first have to answer this questionnaire, and then submit to everyone here for review.  :notes:

Thanks, and please go ahead and share it.
"Who is to say that pleasure is useless?"
― Charles Eames

hackenslash

Quote from: Gnostic Christian Bishop on January 29, 2022, 02:31:16 AM
Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

I think it's a spectacularly dumb question. First, given the proper noun rendering of the deity, we can rule that one out, because Yahweh provably doesn't exist.

Second, and this is important, the whole nature/nurture distinction and all the discussion that surrounds it, couched though it is in wonderfully scientific sounding nomenclature and with vaunted minds waxing lyrical about it...

Only indicates that people will vaunt even the worst, most discontinuous of minds, because the distinction is asinine in the extreme and highlights a paucity of anything resembling real thought because - and this is going to rock your world - nature and nurture are the same bloody thing. We are products of our environments.

QuoteI think the answer is is quite important as it would show us the cause/source of homosexuality.

Silly questions are never important, but I'll humour you. Why would this information be useful? I mean, I know the answer, but I want to see if you'll actually say the quiet part out loud.

QuoteIf God, as believers think, then why is God creating gays?

Regards
DL

Well, if God is created in man's image, and man is only happy when he's got somebody's behaviour to be all publicly pious and outraged about, I think we can see what might motivate such design. Of course, since Yahweh is a fantasy who provably cannot exist, it's a bit of moot point.
There is no more formidable or insuperable barrier to knowledge than the certainty you already possess it.

hackenslash

Quote from: hermes2015 on January 29, 2022, 03:31:32 AM
Quote from: Gnostic Christian Bishop on January 29, 2022, 02:31:16 AM
Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

I think the answer is is quite important as it would show us the cause/source of homosexuality.

If God, as believers think, then why is God creating gays?

Regards
DL

Or just plain good luck?

I'm in awe. What a response.

I used to give awards for responses this good. I no longer have them. Consider yourself awarded an honorary Orson.
There is no more formidable or insuperable barrier to knowledge than the certainty you already possess it.

hackenslash

Quote from: billy rubin on January 29, 2022, 04:50:44 PM
i dunno. sex and gender is something ill never understand.

This is tricky, not least because 'sex' is not well defined for general usage. In particular, it has a range of definitions that vary slightly from field to field, making a single, robust term difficult to pin down. each of those usages is perfectly robust for the field that uses it, but none of them tick all the necessary boxes, and that's led to an enormous amount of confusion.

For example, speak to a geneticist, and they'll tell you that sex is binary. Speak to a specialist in reproductive science - Robert Winston, say - and they'll tell you that sex is binary. So sex is binary, right? Well, it's not that simple, and the reason it's not that simple is that the geneticist and the reproductive science specialist are using different criteria and, more importantly, those criteria need not align.

When you finally speak to an endocrinologist, you get some sense of why this has been a problem, because hormonal sex is a distributed spectrum, because it's a balance between the two main sex hormones, testosterone and oestrogen.

What you eventually arrive at, once you've gotten past the appeals to authority, is that sex is bimodally distributed, not binary.

For completeness, gender is all of the above (because sex is a factor in gender) but with additional psychological and cultural components.

Ultimately, for me, it boils down to the simplest of things; bodily autonomy and the right to self-determination. Everything else is dog-whistling.
There is no more formidable or insuperable barrier to knowledge than the certainty you already possess it.

billy rubin

a chicken can be both male and female at different times in its life.

true fact.


more people have been to berlin than i have

hermes2015

Quote from: hackenslash on February 10, 2022, 12:12:37 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 29, 2022, 03:31:32 AM
Quote from: Gnostic Christian Bishop on January 29, 2022, 02:31:16 AM
Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

I think the answer is is quite important as it would show us the cause/source of homosexuality.

If God, as believers think, then why is God creating gays?

Regards
DL

Or just plain good luck?

I'm in awe. What a response.

I used to give awards for responses this good. I no longer have them. Consider yourself awarded an honorary Orson.

Thank you. I must point out that the response was from a very personal perspective. I am fortunate enough to be in an environment where my rights are protected, but I am painfully aware that there are hundreds of thousands of people worldwide for whom being bon gay is far from good luck.
"Who is to say that pleasure is useless?"
― Charles Eames

hackenslash

There is no more formidable or insuperable barrier to knowledge than the certainty you already possess it.

Old Seer

Quote from: Gnostic Christian Bishop on January 29, 2022, 02:31:16 AM
Are homosexual natures created by nurture, nature, or God?

I think the answer is is quite important as it would show us the cause/source of homosexuality.

If God, as believers think, then why is God creating gays?

Regards
DL
There are those who think/believe God created all things, and have no answer to your question.
The only thing possible the world needs saving from are the ones running it.
Oh lord, save us from those wanting to save us.
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