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billy rubin

the cherokee nation is okay with it. tribal membership extends to seven generations.

but that was my fathers family. my mother's is chickasaw, and she was born on the family's indian allotment in oklahoma.

i dont consider myself indian and dont take any money from the tribe, but if it will let me buy my family health insurance, i ll check the box.


"I cannot understand the popularity of that kind of music, which is based on repetition. In a civilized society, things don't need to be said more than three times."

Dark Lightning

Quote from: Kusa on February 26, 2020, 10:16:26 PM
I've got reservations about you being Indian billy.

I see what you did there! I hear allegations that my father's mother was at least half Native American. I'll talk again to the sister who did our family tree and see if there is any validity to that. All us blue-eyed white boys on the rez! :lol: Though fwiw, one of my brothers was at a casino here in California and one member of the tribe in charge of that area had red hair and green eyes like any good Irishman. When asked, he said that he was of a high enough percentage to qualify.

Magdalena

Quote from: billy rubin on February 26, 2020, 06:45:27 PM
we don't have health insurance, so i am busy trying to get us registered with the feds under obamacare.

the enrollment period is passed, but i'm a paperwork cherokee indian (1/64) so there may be an exception. i need to get the kids registered with the chickasaws (my other tribe, also 1/64) and that may help them out.

if the corona virus puts any of us in hospital when it hits here, that may make a difference

Do your ancestors appear on the
"Dawes Rolls"?
(An official list of members of the Cherokee, Choctaw, Creek, Chickasaw, and Seminole tribes put together in the early 20th century. Having a direct ancestor on the rolls is a requirement for enrollment in the Cherokee Nation.)

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

billy rubin

yep. when rolls closed in 1909 i think it waz, my fathers family went with the cherokees, and my mothers with the chickasaws. im official with both tribes.

but i chose voting rights with the cherokee nation. old wilma mankiller herzelf signed my voting card. the rezt of my family went with the chickasaws.

however.

the cherokees have recently gone in for expelling all their black tribal members, even tbough they were full tribal memberz when the rolls closed and for the next 100 years. this is not okay with me . more-or-less white members of the tribe like me they left alone.

i am going to give up the cherokee membership and transfer to the chickazaws. theyve been good to my elder family members and they dont have it in for black people.



"I cannot understand the popularity of that kind of music, which is based on repetition. In a civilized society, things don't need to be said more than three times."

Magdalena

Quote from: billy rubin on February 27, 2020, 11:18:16 AM
yep. when rolls closed in 1909 i think it waz, my fathers family went with the cherokees, and my mothers with the chickasaws. im official with both tribes.

but i chose voting rights with the cherokee nation. old wilma mankiller herzelf signed my voting card. the rezt of my family went with the chickasaws.

however.

the cherokees have recently gone in for expelling all their black tribal members, even tbough they were full tribal memberz when the rolls closed and for the next 100 years. this is not okay with me . more-or-less white members of the tribe like me they left alone.

i am going to give up the cherokee membership and transfer to the chickazaws. theyve been good to my elder family members and they dont have it in for black people.
:popcorn:

This is all so interesting.

Quote...More than 250,000 people applied for membership, and the Dawes Commission enrolled just over 100,000. Most were rejected because they were non-Natives who showed up demanding land, but could not prove any connection to an existing Native community, such as naming living relatives or speaking the Native language. Overrun with prospective claimants, the commission was overwhelmed, and had to institute guidelines:

It rejected the unconscionable claim that a white person once admitted into the tribe by marriage to an Indian could confer citizenship upon any white person whom he might afterwards marry and upon his white descendants. It also uncovered a great mass of nauseous evidence, and rejected a large number of claims upon the ground they had been advanced through perjury and forgery.[2]

An act of Congress on April 26, 1906, closed the rolls on March 5, 1907. An additional 312 persons were enrolled under an act approved August 1, 1914.
...
From the Dawes Rolls

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

billy rubin

oklahoma waz a dumping ground for displaced indianz. in addition to the civilized tribes, there were ponca sioux, cheyenne, wichita, comanche, kiowa, ozage and bazillions of others. my uncle was a half breed choctaw whose papers listed him az a quarter. when he waz born fullbloods were not allowed to conduct legal buzinezs without a nonindian sponsor, so his father had registered on the rollz az a half instead of a full, and so tbe kids were quarters inztead of halvez. lots of other tribes were peripheral- the dakota, oglalla, pawnee, pueblo tribes.

my grandparentz were married in town in indian territory and i born 50 years later on the next street over, but by then it waz the united statez


"I cannot understand the popularity of that kind of music, which is based on repetition. In a civilized society, things don't need to be said more than three times."

Magdalena

Quote from: billy rubin on February 27, 2020, 07:36:13 PM
oklahoma waz a dumping ground for displaced indianz. in addition to the civilized tribes, there were ponca sioux, cheyenne, wichita, comanche, kiowa, ozage and bazillions of others. my uncle was a half breed choctaw whose papers listed him az a quarter. when he waz born fullbloods were not allowed to conduct legal buzinezs without a nonindian sponsor, so his father had registered on the rollz az a half instead of a full, and so tbe kids were quarters inztead of halvez. lots of other tribes were peripheral- the dakota, oglalla, pawnee, pueblo tribes.

my grandparentz were married in town in indian territory and i born 50 years later on the next street over, but by then it waz the united statez

Please allow me to finishing this sentence the way it should've ended:

oklahoma waz a dumping ground for displaced indianz.
by the white man's increasing hunger for land.
in addition to the civilized tribes...

:sad sigh: :shooty:

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

Icarus

Yeah, Mags.  I have some extended shame for the fact that my forefathers treated the indigenous people with such criminal disregard.

Dark Lightning

Whatever crimes were committed by my ancestors, I'm not culpable. I won't claim fame for any heroic activities performed by my ancestors either, so it works out to zero guilt/pride on my part. I'm enough of a shit all on my own. :smilenod:

billy rubin

the indians were not perfect. either.

tbe kiowa and comanche were the hells angels of the great plains.


"I cannot understand the popularity of that kind of music, which is based on repetition. In a civilized society, things don't need to be said more than three times."

Magdalena

Quote from: billy rubin on February 28, 2020, 11:51:15 AM
the indians were not perfect. either.

tbe kiowa and comanche were the hells angels of the great plains.



:picard facepalm:

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

billy rubin



"I cannot understand the popularity of that kind of music, which is based on repetition. In a civilized society, things don't need to be said more than three times."

Bad Penny II

There's been panic buying of toilet paper nation wide, I heard of it on the news.
No toilet paper on the shelves today, lucky I got an 18 pack last week.
Take my advice, don't listen to me.

Tank

Quote from: Bad Penny II on March 04, 2020, 10:04:55 AM
There's been panic buying of toilet paper nation wide, I heard of it on the news.
No toilet paper on the shelves today, lucky I got an 18 pack last week.

What caused this?
If religions were TV channels atheism is turning the TV off.
"Religion is a culture of faith; science is a culture of doubt." ― Richard P. Feynman
'It is said that your life flashes before your eyes just before you die. That is true, it's called Life.' - Terry Pratchett
Remember, your inability to grasp science is not a valid argument against it.

Bad Penny II

Take my advice, don't listen to me.