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Title: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: yepimonfire on December 21, 2011, 01:25:34 AM
right or wrong? can you actually love someone based on wealth and status?

discuss.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Asmodean on December 21, 2011, 01:28:23 AM
I don't like the idea of marriage, but if both parties get what they want, why not..?

You get the money, your partner gets great sex three times a week, or good company... Or whatever.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 21, 2011, 01:31:00 AM
If it's what both parties want *shrug*
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on December 21, 2011, 01:31:52 AM
Oh, I'm sure it's possible, but it's not for me.

My husband and I were poor as shit when we met, so it's kind of nice to know that it was genuine interest that brought us together. But people get together and break up for a whole host of reasons. I don't worry too much about it unless it effects my life directly.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Whitney on December 21, 2011, 01:54:19 AM
Why people choose to form a contractual relationship with each other is not a moral issue...so it's neither right nor wrong.

Personally I prefer love as the basis for marriage.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 21, 2011, 02:31:22 AM
Quote from: yepimonfire on December 21, 2011, 01:25:34 AM
right or wrong? can you actually love someone based on wealth and status?

discuss.

I think some people can love another based on wealth and status -- some people seem to fall in love based solely on looks or sexual availablity, which doesn't seem to me any more or less strange.  When you get down to it, it's no more strange than my falling in love with people who make me laugh. 

Now, why you marry someone, that's a different issue.  I agree with the rest -- if everybody is honest about what they want and what they have to give in return, and both people are fine with the exchange, go for it.  Really, there's no reason for anyone to be lonely or live on a possibly insufficent single income just because they aren't romantically inclined, or fall in love for unconventional reasons.

Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Stevil on December 21, 2011, 03:16:58 AM
Quote from: yepimonfire on December 21, 2011, 01:25:34 AM
right or wrong? can you actually love someone based on wealth and status?

discuss.
No such thing as right or wrong, not in the morality sense.
People are free to make whatever decisions they want, based on what ever.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Too Few Lions on December 21, 2011, 05:17:28 PM
yeah, like others have said, it's not a question of right and wrong, just choice. It's not for me as I have no interest in money or status, but I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who are driven by those things and would select a partner based on them.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on December 22, 2011, 02:22:08 AM
Quote from: yepimonfire on December 21, 2011, 01:25:34 AM
right or wrong? can you actually love someone based on wealth and status?

discuss.

What is this love thing?
I suppose it can start from an attraction to wealth but if something else isn't found it probably won't last.
A love based on looks and fascination may founder in poverty. 
Many people probably take some compromise solution.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Pharaoh Cat on December 22, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 22, 2011, 02:22:08 AM
What is this love thing?

Good question.  And I have no idea what the answer is. ;)

The creature that has taught me the most about love is my cat.  When I look at her, an emotional switch gets flicked, and I am ready to do what needs to be done to ensure her well-being.  How?  Why?  Got me. :-\

She has neither wealth nor fame nor political power, so I have to conclude that for me, those things are irrelevant where love is concerned.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Stevil on December 22, 2011, 06:21:07 PM
Quote from: Pharaoh Cat on December 22, 2011, 06:08:18 PM
Good question.  And I have no idea what the answer is. ;)

The creature that has taught me the most about love is my cat.  When I look at her, an emotional switch gets flicked, and I am ready to do what needs to be done to ensure her well-being.  How?  Why?  Got me. :-\

She has neither wealth nor fame nor political power, so I have to conclude that for me, those things are irrelevant where love is concerned.

So for you I presume, it is either about how they make you feel enticing you to do things for them, rather than what it is that they can do for you.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Asmodean on December 22, 2011, 06:54:38 PM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 22, 2011, 02:22:08 AM
What is this love thing?
Ooh! I know! It's when bees and flowers devour each other after having sex... Well, close enough anyways. Tiny Asmo read something about that in a children's book once... While watching something about tits. Filled with silicone. And now, the Asmo just can't get enough of circuit boards... Made from the same stuff as tits, they don't slap you silly if you send an electric current through them! Perfect.  :D

Uh... Anyway. Love. It is that right there, is what it is.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Pharaoh Cat on December 22, 2011, 08:51:33 PM
Quote from: Stevil on December 22, 2011, 06:21:07 PM
So for you I presume, it is either about how they make you feel enticing you to do things for them, rather than what it is that they can do for you.

Where love is concerned, yes.

Absent love, I often calculate utility when interacting with someone.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: squidfetish on December 22, 2011, 11:19:48 PM
As long as both parties are fully aware of the situation and who wants what and why, then there's no reason why not.  It has been said many times that marriage can often equate to legalised prostitution, although that is not always a popular view...
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Davin on December 23, 2011, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 22, 2011, 02:22:08 AMWhat is this love thing?
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oMoFY1nvuSU/TvFRw8Vn5KI/AAAAAAAADEI/8X6QDRxcPJQ/w300/weird%2Blove.jpg)
Edit: While the quote has been attributed to Dr. Seuss in many places, the actual author is unknown. But I like the quote all the same.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Whitney on December 23, 2011, 02:23:42 PM
^ lol
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 02, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
Wealth and status are vulnerable to the vagaries of this apocalyptic age. Wiser to base your affections on something more enduring like an elegant bone structure or a talent for mimicry.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 02, 2012, 08:13:41 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 02, 2012, 07:25:13 PM
Wealth and status are vulnerable to the vagaries of this apocalyptic age. Wiser to base your affections on something more enduring like an elegant bone structure or a talent for mimicry.

*snerk*

So my grandma used to say "The hardest way to earn money is to marry for it."  And I agree with her - I can't imagine having to spend a ton of time with someone who I don't enjoy, doesn't make me laugh, am not attracted to, et cetera.  They're printing money every day - may as well do something less objectionable to get it.

But, like the rest of you, I really don't care why anyone else decides to get married, as long as all parties know what they are getting into.

On the same token, I find it totally bizarre that prostitution is illegal.  It's legal to have sex, so what's the deal with the government trying to rule on your motives behind having sex?  As an adult, I can sleep with any other consenting adult for a whole host of bad reasons.  Maybe I have a low self esteem.  Maybe I'm hoping sleeping with him will make me more popular.  Maybe I'm just doing it to get back at my boyfriend.  None of those are particularly noble reasons to "give yourself" to someone else.  But who gives a shit, it's our bodies, we should be able to do pretty much what we want with them.  Why is money a worse motivator than others?
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sweetdeath on February 02, 2012, 09:32:29 PM
I think marriage as a whole is utterly absurd and completely outdated.
Though, if two living human beings wish to tie the knot, I could care less WHAT the reasons. As long as both parties are consentual.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 02, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
"Bad reasons for sleeping with people" would make a fascinating and educational thread. To your already impressive list I would add :Trying to dispel those insidious rumours about your sexuality; Boredom; An excuse for getting out of having to visit Ikea; Weight Loss.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 02, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 02, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
"Bad reasons for sleeping with people" would make a fascinating and educational thread. To your already impressive list I would add :Trying to dispel those insidious rumours about your sexuality; Boredom; An excuse for getting out of having to visit Ikea; Weight Loss.

Is it bad that I think going to Ikea and having sex are about equally fun?  In fairness to me, I freaking love Ikea.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Crow on February 03, 2012, 12:11:07 AM
Quote from: En_Route on February 02, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
"Bad reasons for sleeping with people" would make a fascinating and educational thread. To your already impressive list I would add :Trying to dispel those insidious rumours about your sexuality; Boredom; An excuse for getting out of having to visit Ikea; Weight Loss.

I thought those were a pretty good reasons for having sex.

Quote from: Ali on February 02, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Is it bad that I think going to Ikea and having sex are about equally fun?  In fairness to me, I freaking love Ikea.

LOL I can understand that but maybe replace Ikea with Vitra showroom/paper mills/fabric mills for me though.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 03, 2012, 12:49:07 AM
Quote from: Ali on February 02, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 02, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
"Bad reasons for sleeping with people" would make a fascinating and educational thread. To your already impressive list I would add :Trying to dispel those insidious rumours about your sexuality; Boredom; An excuse for getting out of having to visit Ikea; Weight Loss.

Is it bad that I think going to Ikea and having sex are about equally fun?  In fairness to me, I freaking love Ikea.


If everyone was like you, we'd have evolved into flatpacks.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sandra Craft on February 03, 2012, 01:33:20 AM
Quote from: Ali on February 02, 2012, 08:13:41 PM
On the same token, I find it totally bizarre that prostitution is illegal.  It's legal to have sex, so what's the deal with the government trying to rule on your motives behind having sex? 

Because non-marital sex is sinful!  Sinful, sinful, sinful!  And people should not be allowed to make a profit off sin, unless we can tax it.  Of course, if prostitution were legal, then we could tax it . . . hmmm.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 03, 2012, 02:11:59 AM
Quote from: En_Route on February 03, 2012, 12:49:07 AM
Quote from: Ali on February 02, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 02, 2012, 09:34:22 PM
"Bad reasons for sleeping with people" would make a fascinating and educational thread. To your already impressive list I would add :Trying to dispel those insidious rumours about your sexuality; Boredom; An excuse for getting out of having to visit Ikea; Weight Loss.

Is it bad that I think going to Ikea and having sex are about equally fun?  In fairness to me, I freaking love Ikea.


If everyone was like you, we'd have evolved into flatpacks.

It's like you've found a way to combine Ikea and sex.  It's.....it's......brilliant.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Mocha Chief on February 03, 2012, 08:39:30 AM
I personally don't like the idea that some people will marry others due to their wealth or social status. But if both parties are indeed happy and know the situation for each other, then I see no problem in it
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Asmodean on February 03, 2012, 08:53:48 AM
Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 03, 2012, 08:39:30 AM
I personally don't like the idea that some people will marry others due to their wealth or social status. But if both parties are indeed happy and know the situation for each other, then I see no problem in it
A young and pretty A marries and old and shriveled B for money. The old and shriveled B marries the young and pretty A for sex. New sex. Something wrong with that, The Asmo sees not, except of course they could have just skippd the middleman, so to speak, and have sex-for-coin kind of arrangement.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Too Few Lions on February 03, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 03, 2012, 01:33:20 AM
Quote from: Ali on February 02, 2012, 08:13:41 PM
On the same token, I find it totally bizarre that prostitution is illegal.  It's legal to have sex, so what's the deal with the government trying to rule on your motives behind having sex? 

Because non-marital sex is sinful!  Sinful, sinful, sinful!  And people should not be allowed to make a profit off sin, unless we can tax it.  Of course, if prostitution were legal, then we could tax it . . . hmmm.
I think you've hit the nail on the head BCE. I think many in the west have plenty of hang-ups about sex, one of the many bad consequences of 1500 years of Christian indoctrination. Still, I guess we're a lot more liberated and open than people living under the yoke of Islam.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 03, 2012, 02:34:26 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 03, 2012, 08:53:48 AM
Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 03, 2012, 08:39:30 AM
I personally don't like the idea that some people will marry others due to their wealth or social status. But if both parties are indeed happy and know the situation for each other, then I see no problem in it
A young and pretty A marries and old and shriveled B for money. The old and shriveled B marries the young and pretty A for sex. New sex. Something wrong with that, The Asmo sees not, except of course they could have just skippd the middleman, so to speak, and have sex-for-coin kind of arrangement.

I will amend my grandmother's saying to say "The hardest way to get sex is to marry for it."  Seriously, anyone who would marry for the sex has obviously never been married.   ;D
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 03, 2012, 04:06:49 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 03, 2012, 02:11:59 AM

It's like you've found a way to combine Ikea and sex.  


The last time I tried to do that, I was escorted from the premises.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 03, 2012, 04:17:30 PM
Quote

I will amend my grandmother's saying to say "The hardest way to get sex is to marry for it."  Seriously, anyone who would marry for the sex has obviously never been married.   ;D

Other than my wife of course.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tom62 on February 04, 2012, 03:46:11 PM
I never really understood what is so special about social status. I don't like wearing ties, I don't like cocktail parties and I don't I like any of that jazzy, crappy muzak that they love in these fancy social status circuits. 
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 04:07:09 PM
I'm very difficult to get to wear a tie - even for a work-related presentation. In most cases, I'd quit my job before agreeing to it. A wedding or a funeral that demanded a dress- or otherwise looks-code I dislike, I'd simply not attend.

With you on this one, but probably in a somewhat more extreme way.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tom62 on February 04, 2012, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 04:07:09 PM
I'm very difficult to get to wear a tie - even for a work-related presentation. In most cases, I'd quit my job before agreeing to it. A wedding or a funeral that demanded a dress- or otherwise looks-code I dislike, I'd simply not attend.

With you on this one, but probably in a somewhat more extreme way.
My thoughts exactly !!!!
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 04, 2012, 04:11:14 PM
I don't understand ties.  Who decided that tying a piece of cloth around a man's neck made him look respectable?
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 04:15:57 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 04:11:14 PM
I don't understand ties.  Who decided that tying a piece of cloth around a man's neck made him look respectable?
Tie-wearing ultraconservative snobs..?

Just guessing...
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 04, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 04:15:57 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 04:11:14 PM
I don't understand ties.  Who decided that tying a piece of cloth around a man's neck made him look respectable?
Tie-wearing ultraconservative snobs..?

Just guessing...

It just seems bizarre to the point of comical.  I realize I shouldn't laugh because women are the queens of nonsensical fashion, but the idea of someone going "What this outfit really needs is a random piece of cloth hanging from the neck..." seems soooo silly. 
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sweetdeath on February 04, 2012, 04:20:30 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 04:11:14 PM
I don't understand ties.  Who decided that tying a piece of cloth around a man's neck made him look respectable?

I think pants make any man look good, LOL.

But social statua b.s is the worst. Someone can know a person for a year, get married and be more respected than a loving couple who has been together 6 years, and chose not to be married mutually.

I hate people who think just because someone doesn't want to get married, they are not commited to their spouse. Ugh..whatever.  

Or they have contests "for married couples only" . I find that very discriminating.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
the idea of someone going "What this outfit really needs is a random piece of cloth hanging from the neck..." seems soooo silly. 
A scarf is ok in proper climate, but not everybody makes one look good.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 04, 2012, 04:26:03 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 04:23:35 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 04:20:07 PM
the idea of someone going "What this outfit really needs is a random piece of cloth hanging from the neck..." seems soooo silly. 
A scarf is ok in proper climate, but not everybody makes one look good.

I can't do scarves.  Or hats!  I've yet to ever find a hat that didn't look ridiculous on me.

Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sweetdeath on February 04, 2012, 04:29:33 PM
My head is small and most adult hats are huge on me. ;;
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on February 04, 2012, 05:41:51 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on February 04, 2012, 04:20:30 PM
I think pants make any man look good, LOL.

I tried pants once and while I'm but a pudding, never quite a man, yet still I'm sure this sentence had a purpose when I started it.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKBif4.png&hash=d2815e5272dc06a8e6adad3f726ee65af3db368f)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 04, 2012, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on February 04, 2012, 05:41:51 PM

I tried pants once and while I'm but a pudding, never quite a man, yet still I'm sure this sentence had a purpose when I started it.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKBif4.png&hash=d2815e5272dc06a8e6adad3f726ee65af3db368f)

I am ROLLING laughing.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Mocha Chief on February 04, 2012, 08:16:59 PM
Lol I don't mind ties at all. I actually like to wear them on occasions, such as school dances or anything else like that. And I also love to wear my old cap now and then
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:27:53 PM
I tend to wear t-shirts, amply decorated with skulls, hoodies and a bunch of facial piercings. If someone disapproves, it's ther problem. I've yet to find myself in a situation where I actually need somebody who insists on me looking differently from what I do.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 04, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
I'm picturing you as a pierced version of Sid from Toy Story.  :D

I have to dress "business casual" most days a week for my job.  I don't mind, I think I actually look rather nice in those clothes.  I just make sure that it is "stylish business casual" and not "old lady business casual."
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:42:30 PM
There are pics of me floating about. They do show the piercings, except perhaps the eyebrow which is harder to see.

On the emo-one, you can also see two of my four ear rings.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 04, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
I'm picturing you as a pierced version of Sid from Toy Story.  :D

I have to dress "business casual" most days a week for my job.  I don't mind, I think I actually look rather nice in those clothes.  I just make sure that it is "stylish business casual" and not "old lady business casual."
Styled, cinched top, pencil skirt to the knee with black stockings a medium heels *drools*
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 05, 2012, 12:12:47 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:42:30 PM
There are pics of me floating about. They do show the piercings, except perhaps the eyebrow which is harder to see.

On the emo-one, you can also see two of my four ear rings.

Yes, I've seen.  It was just the skull shirts that put me in mind of Sid from Toy Story.   :D

Tank, I have an outfit very similar to that.  I'll probably think of you next time I wear it!
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on February 05, 2012, 12:29:41 AM
Quote from: Tank on February 04, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
I'm picturing you as a pierced version of Sid from Toy Story.  :D

I have to dress "business casual" most days a week for my job.  I don't mind, I think I actually look rather nice in those clothes.  I just make sure that it is "stylish business casual" and not "old lady business casual."
Styled, cinched top, pencil skirt to the knee with black stockings a medium heels *drools*

Radiant has a cure for drooling.

Quote from: Radiant on January 26, 2012, 04:58:46 AM
He actually doesn't drool. We give them water through a bottle and that helps keep them from drooling so much. He doesn't drool at all.

I'm not sure if measures that prevent a bull dog from drooling would help those with a serious drool problem.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 09:01:42 AM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 12:12:47 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:42:30 PM
There are pics of me floating about. They do show the piercings, except perhaps the eyebrow which is harder to see.

On the emo-one, you can also see two of my four ear rings.

Yes, I've seen.  It was just the skull shirts that put me in mind of Sid from Toy Story.   :D

Tank, I have an outfit very similar to that.  I'll probably think of you next time I wear it!

Something like this?

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.honeybuy.com%2Fimage%2FGrey_Stripes_One_Button_Notch_Lapel_Women_Business_Suits_10949731902026_690X500.jpg&hash=01d167f2005310a13ff5b2198adf5454a7172a74)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 04, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
I'm picturing you as a pierced version of Sid from Toy Story.  :D

I have to dress "business casual" most days a week for my job.  I don't mind, I think I actually look rather nice in those clothes.  I just make sure that it is "stylish business casual" and not "old lady business casual."
Styled, cinched top, pencil skirt to the knee with black stockings a medium heels *drools*


Black stockings? Did you just say "Black Stockings?" They've been the ruin of many a poor boy.....
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 02:41:58 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 04, 2012, 08:42:51 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 04, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
I'm picturing you as a pierced version of Sid from Toy Story.  :D

I have to dress "business casual" most days a week for my job.  I don't mind, I think I actually look rather nice in those clothes.  I just make sure that it is "stylish business casual" and not "old lady business casual."
Styled, cinched top, pencil skirt to the knee with black stockings a medium heels *drools*


Black stockings? Did you just say "Black Stockings?" They've been the ruin of many a poor boy.....
Yes. Stockings or hold-ups but never ever tights!  >:(
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 05, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
Wait, what is the difference between stockings and tights?
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sweetdeath on February 05, 2012, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
Wait, what is the difference between stockings and tights?

I think stockings only go up to thighs, and tights cover all (go up to waist.)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
Wait, what is the difference between stockings and tights?
Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are stockings  ;D

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.limitemagazine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F03%2Fdita-von-teese.jpg&hash=f39c34549aaace89dad2d92f540124d8d0b7417e)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 04:10:02 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on February 05, 2012, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
Wait, what is the difference between stockings and tights?

I think stockings only go up to thighs, and tights cover all (go up to waist.)
Correct.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 05, 2012, 04:48:23 PM
Oh yeah, I don't have any of those.  Sorry Tank.   :D
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 04:48:23 PM
Oh yeah, I don't have any of those.  Sorry Tank.   :D
Never too late.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 05:04:07 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 04:48:23 PM
Oh yeah, I don't have any of those.  Sorry Tank.   :D
:'(

Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sandra Craft on February 05, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
Wait, what is the difference between stockings and tights?
Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are stockings  ;D

OK, what are "hold-ups"? 
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 04:09:06 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 03:19:25 PM
Wait, what is the difference between stockings and tights?
Nooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

These are stockings  ;D

OK, what are "hold-ups"? 
Stockings that have an elasticated top so don't need suspenders. Suspenders can be uncomfortable if you sit on them, or so I'm told  ;)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 05, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
Tank, you know an awful lot about ladies' underthings.   ;)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 05:44:16 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
Tank, you know an awful lot about ladies' underthings.   ;)
Oh Yes!  :D
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
Tank, you know an awful lot about ladies' underthings.   ;)
I 've done some research in this area myself. All in the spirit of scientific enquiry, of course.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 07:26:46 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
Tank, you know an awful lot about ladies' underthings.   ;)
I 've done some research in this area myself. All in the spirit of scientific enquiry, of course.
My research is ongoing and totally unscientific it involes removing as much as possible as quickly as possible  ;D
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 08:45:34 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 07:26:46 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
Tank, you know an awful lot about ladies' underthings.   ;)
I 've done some research in this area myself. All in the spirit of scientific enquiry, of course.
My research is ongoing and totally unscientific it involes removing as much as possible as quickly as possible  ;D
You should try a more drawn-out, sensual approach. Put the linger in lingerie.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 08:47:27 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 08:45:34 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 07:26:46 PM
Quote from: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Ali on February 05, 2012, 05:43:23 PM
Tank, you know an awful lot about ladies' underthings.   ;)
I 've done some research in this area myself. All in the spirit of scientific enquiry, of course.
My research is ongoing and totally unscientific it involes removing as much as possible as quickly as possible  ;D
You should try a more drawn-out, sensual approach. Put the linger in lingerie.
LOL.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sandra Craft on February 05, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
OK, what are "hold-ups"? 
Stockings that have an elasticated top so don't need suspenders. Suspenders can be uncomfortable if you sit on them, or so I'm told  ;)

I think I'd prefer the garter belt to the hold-ups.  I can just imagine the elastic giving out at exactly the wrong moment, or not being quite tight enough so the stockings slide down (an old probelm with socks) or being too tight and cutting off the blood supply in a really wrong spot. 
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
OK, what are "hold-ups"? 
Stockings that have an elasticated top so don't need suspenders. Suspenders can be uncomfortable if you sit on them, or so I'm told  ;)

I think I'd prefer the garter belt to the hold-ups.  I can just imagine the elastic giving out at exactly the wrong moment, or not being quite tight enough so the stockings slide down (an old probelm with socks) or being too tight and cutting off the blood supply in a really wrong spot. 
I prefer the garter belt option too  ;)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sandra Craft on February 05, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
OK, what are "hold-ups"? 
Stockings that have an elasticated top so don't need suspenders. Suspenders can be uncomfortable if you sit on them, or so I'm told  ;)

I think I'd prefer the garter belt to the hold-ups.  I can just imagine the elastic giving out at exactly the wrong moment, or not being quite tight enough so the stockings slide down (an old probelm with socks) or being too tight and cutting off the blood supply in a really wrong spot. 
I prefer the garter belt option too  ;)

It does have that mid-century allure.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Tank on February 05, 2012, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
OK, what are "hold-ups"? 
Stockings that have an elasticated top so don't need suspenders. Suspenders can be uncomfortable if you sit on them, or so I'm told  ;)

I think I'd prefer the garter belt to the hold-ups.  I can just imagine the elastic giving out at exactly the wrong moment, or not being quite tight enough so the stockings slide down (an old probelm with socks) or being too tight and cutting off the blood supply in a really wrong spot. 
I prefer the garter belt option too  ;)

It does have that mid-century allure.

And frames the derriere perfectly.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 05, 2012, 10:11:41 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 05, 2012, 05:38:30 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 05, 2012, 05:32:37 PM
OK, what are "hold-ups"? 
Stockings that have an elasticated top so don't need suspenders. Suspenders can be uncomfortable if you sit on them, or so I'm told  ;)

I think I'd prefer the garter belt to the hold-ups.  I can just imagine the elastic giving out at exactly the wrong moment, or not being quite tight enough so the stockings slide down (an old probelm with socks) or being too tight and cutting off the blood supply in a really wrong spot. 
I prefer the garter belt option too  ;)

It does have that mid-century allure.

And frames the derriere perfectly.

It does carry an undeniable erotic charge, the source of which is difficult to pin down (as may the wearer, if you are unlucky).
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Anne D. on February 06, 2012, 01:35:22 AM
If you have to wear hosiery in Texas in the summer, stockings are a godsend. Much cooler than pantyhose or tights.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 06, 2012, 02:18:36 AM
Saw this tonight and thought of you guys.

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2012/02/teleflora-super-bowl-46-commercial-adriana-lima-valentines-night/ (http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/2012/02/teleflora-super-bowl-46-commercial-adriana-lima-valentines-night/)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on February 06, 2012, 02:18:54 AM
I wish I had a neck so I could wear one of these.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.anyanne.com%2F852-1043-large%2Fblack-satin-ribbon-cameo-choker-necklace.jpg&hash=24acb4b571960402c99e9790150ffee0e03f5d72)
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 06, 2012, 02:22:36 AM
You want to wear a girl made of plastic around your neck?  That's weird.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on February 06, 2012, 02:52:49 AM
Quote from: Ali on February 06, 2012, 02:22:36 AM
You want to wear a girl made of plastic around your neck?  That's weird.

Maybe for you but I don't have pockets.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Ali on February 06, 2012, 03:43:26 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on February 06, 2012, 02:52:49 AM
Quote from: Ali on February 06, 2012, 02:22:36 AM
You want to wear a girl made of plastic around your neck?  That's weird.

Maybe for you but I don't have pockets.

*Laughing*
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: Sweetdeath on February 06, 2012, 05:04:14 AM
I have a necklace like that in red. It's my fav piece of jewelry.
Title: Re: marrying someone based on money, or social status.
Post by: En_Route on February 06, 2012, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: Anne D. on February 06, 2012, 01:35:22 AM
If you have to wear hosiery in Texas in the summer, stockings are a godsend. Much cooler than pantyhose or tights.

Stockings are always the coolest option, regardless of ambient temperature.