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General => Philosophy => Topic started by: MarcusA on April 26, 2023, 12:57:43 AM

Title: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on April 26, 2023, 12:57:43 AM
To copy Sartre, man is more than a head of lettuce.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: No one on April 26, 2023, 01:36:09 AM
Hoomans are less than 1/32 of a thimble of toenail clippings.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on April 26, 2023, 01:56:56 AM
Quote from: No one on April 26, 2023, 01:36:09 AMHoomans are less than 1/32 of a thimble of toenail clippings.

A man is no more than a beast with a brain when he thinks about sex.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: Asmodean on April 26, 2023, 07:20:20 AM
To be human is... Just that.

This subject is as broad or as narrow as you wish it to be. Personally, I would argue that being human does not place upon you any responsibility that you do not take upon yourself, excepting those of your current social contract (Circumstances of birth/life)
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on April 28, 2023, 01:57:20 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 26, 2023, 07:20:20 AMTo be human is... Just that.

This subject is as broad or as narrow as you wish it to be. Personally, I would argue that being human does not place upon you any responsibility that you do not take upon yourself, excepting those of your current social contract (Circumstances of birth/life)

I believe that we must live as an example to others.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: No one on April 28, 2023, 02:33:07 AM
Take me for instance, I'm the "Let's never do that ever again" example.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: Old Seer on April 28, 2023, 03:01:33 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on April 26, 2023, 12:57:43 AMTo copy Sartre, man is more than a head of lettuce.
Make a choice.
Dictionary
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hu·man
adjective
adjective: human

    relating to or characteristic of people or human beings.
    "the human body"
    h
    Similar:
    anthropoid

h
Opposite:
animal

    of or characteristic of people as opposed to God or animals or machines, especially in being susceptible to weaknesses.
    "they are only human and therefore mistakes do occur"
    h
    Similar:
    mortal

flesh and blood
fallible
weak
frail
imperfect
vulnerable
susceptible
erring
error-prone
physical
bodily
fleshly
carnal
corporal
h
Opposite:
infallible
of or characteristic of people's better qualities, such as kindness or sensitivity.
"the human side of politics is getting stronger"
h
Similar:
compassionate
humane
kind
kindly
kindhearted
considerate
understanding
sympathetic
tolerant
approachable
accessible

        h
        Opposite:
        inhuman
        Zoology
        of or belonging to the genus Homo.

noun
noun: human; plural noun: humans

    a human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien.
    h
    Similar:
    person

human being
personage
mortal
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on April 28, 2023, 03:17:51 AM
Quote from: Old Seer on April 28, 2023, 03:01:33 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on April 26, 2023, 12:57:43 AMTo copy Sartre, man is more than a head of lettuce.
Make a choice.
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more
hu·man
adjective
adjective: human

    relating to or characteristic of people or human beings.
    "the human body"
    h
    Similar:
    anthropoid

h
Opposite:
animal

    of or characteristic of people as opposed to God or animals or machines, especially in being susceptible to weaknesses.
    "they are only human and therefore mistakes do occur"
    h
    Similar:
    mortal

flesh and blood
fallible
weak
frail
imperfect
vulnerable
susceptible
erring
error-prone
physical
bodily
fleshly
carnal
corporal
h
Opposite:
infallible
of or characteristic of people's better qualities, such as kindness or sensitivity.
"the human side of politics is getting stronger"
h
Similar:
compassionate
humane
kind
kindly
kindhearted
considerate
understanding
sympathetic
tolerant
approachable
accessible

        h
        Opposite:
        inhuman
        Zoology
        of or belonging to the genus Homo.

noun
noun: human; plural noun: humans

    a human being, especially a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien.
    h
    Similar:
    person

human being
personage
mortal

Human beings are certainly mortal.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: Asmodean on April 28, 2023, 07:30:11 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on April 28, 2023, 01:57:20 AMI believe that we must live as an example to others.
I do not.

You may choose to live thusly - or you may not. Unless you are specifically a parent, talking about his children, for whom he has certain ambitions and aspirations, I see no "ought to" here.

At the end of the day, you get to choose who to look up to - why should something that is ultimately your unilateral choice place any responsibility on them?
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on April 28, 2023, 09:36:06 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on April 28, 2023, 07:30:11 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on April 28, 2023, 01:57:20 AMI believe that we must live as an example to others.
I do not.

You may choose to live thusly - or you may not. Unless you are specifically a parent, talking about his children, for whom he has certain ambitions and aspirations, I see no "ought to" here.

At the end of the day, you get to choose who to look up to - why should something that is ultimately your unilateral choice place any responsibility on them?

Well, Asmo, there is such a thing as free will.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: No one on April 28, 2023, 10:16:52 PM
Due to inflation it's now 350 will.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on April 28, 2023, 10:55:02 PM
Quote from: No one on April 28, 2023, 10:16:52 PMDue to inflation it's now 350 will.

Free Will is certainly expensive.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: Asmodean on May 02, 2023, 11:42:09 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on April 28, 2023, 09:36:06 PMWell, Asmo, there is such a thing as free will.
Precisely. As a subset thereof, your responsibility to yourself and the world is, to a degree, your own to define.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on May 02, 2023, 08:32:53 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 02, 2023, 11:42:09 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on April 28, 2023, 09:36:06 PMWell, Asmo, there is such a thing as free will.
Precisely. As a subset thereof, your responsibility to yourself and the world is, to a degree, your own to define.

Responsibility cuts both ways. I am responsible for myself and others.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: Asmodean on May 03, 2023, 09:20:31 AM
Hmm... Yeah, but not really.

Let us say you are driving a car. Yes, you have a responsibility by doing so to see to that your driving does not endanger other road users. However, if another road user jumps right in front of it at (or, on, likely as not) speed, that's only on him.

Now, you can take responsibility for his actions, but frankly, why on earth would you?
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on May 03, 2023, 10:40:15 PM
I am responsible for my actions towards others.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: Asmodean on May 05, 2023, 11:50:38 AM
Indeed. As are those acting upon you responsible for their.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on May 06, 2023, 04:26:55 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 05, 2023, 11:50:38 AMIndeed. As are those acting upon you responsible for their.

I'd say that the religious excuse their actions by hook or by crook.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on June 22, 2023, 05:45:27 PM
Kindness is sweet and free, merciful.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: billy rubin on June 22, 2023, 05:50:41 PM
there is only one thing that separates humans from all other iving things

of all the creatures in the world, big smal extant extinct

hums are the only animals that give birth to baby humans.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on June 22, 2023, 10:59:37 PM
Baby humans! I love baby humans.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: No one on June 23, 2023, 01:04:57 AM
They're so tender. Just fall off the bone.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on June 23, 2023, 01:11:44 AM
Quote from: No one on June 23, 2023, 01:04:57 AMThey're so tender. Just fall off the bone.

Your cannibalistic tendencies are driving me crazy. haha
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on June 23, 2023, 03:46:27 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on June 22, 2023, 05:50:41 PMthere is only one thing that separates humans from all other iving things

of all the creatures in the world, big smal extant extinct

hums are the only animals that give birth to baby humans.

Except the first one and possibly future ones.
Title: Re: What is it to be human?
Post by: MarcusA on June 27, 2023, 03:00:50 AM
We do evil when we do good - the irony is as thick as fog.