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General => Art => Topic started by: MarcusA on May 02, 2023, 08:49:16 AM

Title: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 02, 2023, 08:49:16 AM
What's bad art? Anything postmodern. I am postmodern.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: No one on May 02, 2023, 08:50:45 AM
Anything I am not in favor of!
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 02, 2023, 08:59:18 AM
Quote from: No one on May 02, 2023, 08:50:45 AMAnything I am not in favor of!

hahaha
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: Asmodean on May 02, 2023, 10:41:17 AM
Quote from: No one on May 02, 2023, 08:50:45 AMAnything I am not in favor of!
Pretty much this.

Art is very subjective. You don't have to go much beyond music to see it. For instance, I find a lot of Jazz music intrusive and squeaky, but can enjoy and find complexity and beauty in some really growly heavy metal. For someone else, it could be the exact opposite. What does that say about jangly Jazz and growly Metal? Very little, actually. It speaks only to the comparative tastes of the specific listeners.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 03, 2023, 12:53:51 AM
Everything is subjective, what's your point? You might be trapped in your own little world, but who cares?
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: Asmodean on May 03, 2023, 09:08:05 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 03, 2023, 12:53:51 AMEverything is subjective, what's your point? You might be trapped in your own little world, but who cares?
Some things are subjective (Do oranges taste good?) while others are not (What is the relationship between a circle's circumference and its diameter?)

As for who cares, I'd say any-one trying to understand another person has to, and "we" tend to do so without thinking. Of course, there are matters where it can be difficult to discern fact from opinion - that is what research is for.

"Everyhing" is only subjective if one is willing to treat Everything (<-notice upper case E) as a subject.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 03, 2023, 11:40:07 AM
The postmodern might be bad art, however the past isn't much better.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 04, 2023, 07:38:29 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 03, 2023, 09:08:05 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 03, 2023, 12:53:51 AMEverything is subjective, what's your point? You might be trapped in your own little world, but who cares?
Some things are subjective (Do oranges taste good?) while others are not (What is the relationship between a circle's circumference and its diameter?)

As for who cares, I'd say any-one trying to understand another person has to, and "we" tend to do so without thinking. Of course, there are matters where it can be difficult to discern fact from opinion - that is what research is for.

"Everyhing" is only subjective if one is willing to treat Everything (<-notice upper case E) as a subject.

Everything is more than enough for me. I need nothing beyond it.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: Asmodean on May 04, 2023, 08:11:22 AM
What is the scope of "everything," with which you operate here?
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 04, 2023, 08:29:38 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 04, 2023, 08:11:22 AMWhat is the scope of "everything," with which you operate here?

"God is a little more than everything," e.e. cummings

He can have it his way. I'll have it mine.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: Asmodean on May 04, 2023, 02:23:59 PM
Which is what, more precisely?
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 04, 2023, 08:59:04 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 04, 2023, 02:23:59 PMWhich is what, more precisely?

God is nothing.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: Asmodean on May 05, 2023, 07:30:20 AM
Yes, I gathered as much from the Cummings post.

It says only that you exclude God from the scope of everything. Is God the only thing you exclude?
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 05, 2023, 09:22:50 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 05, 2023, 07:30:20 AMYes, I gathered as much from the Cummings post.

It says only that you exclude God from the scope of everything. Is God the only thing you exclude?

Well, there is Nirvana.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on May 17, 2023, 02:01:30 AM
Bad art leads to multiple interpretations, or in actual fact, that is good art.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on June 03, 2023, 08:02:01 AM
Bad art is not beautiful.
Title: Re: What's bad art?
Post by: MarcusA on July 11, 2023, 02:56:08 AM
Bad art is just bad art: it ain't evil.