Title: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Dinokid on December 23, 2008, 02:58:22 AM
Post by: Dinokid on December 23, 2008, 02:58:22 AM
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit32.html What could those animals be?
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit37.html
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit39.html
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit40.html (Very good one)
http://s8int.com/phile/dinolit48.html Theropods?
http://s8int.com/phile/dinolit60.html Brachiosaur?
http://s8int.com/phile/dinolit82.html
http://s8int.com/phile/dinolit83.html
http://s8int.com/dinolit3.html
http://s8int.com/dinolit4.html
http://s8int.com/dinolit12.html Crested dinosaur?
http://s8int.com/dinolit14.html Stegosaurus, thats clear as day
http://s8int.com/dinolit21.html
These look like very accurate depictions of some kind of dinosaurs, now what are you going to tell me that discredits all of these and proves they are just monsters of some sort and the ones that are very accurate, how are you going to tell me they're fake?
I didn't know you all didn't take url code. Just copy and paste the links to the browser.
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit37.html
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit39.html
http://www.s8int.com/dinolit40.html (Very good one)
http://s8int.com/phile/dinolit48.html Theropods?
http://s8int.com/phile/dinolit60.html Brachiosaur?
http://s8int.com/phile/dinolit82.html
http://s8int.com/phile/dinolit83.html
http://s8int.com/dinolit3.html
http://s8int.com/dinolit4.html
http://s8int.com/dinolit12.html Crested dinosaur?
http://s8int.com/dinolit14.html Stegosaurus, thats clear as day
http://s8int.com/dinolit21.html
These look like very accurate depictions of some kind of dinosaurs, now what are you going to tell me that discredits all of these and proves they are just monsters of some sort and the ones that are very accurate, how are you going to tell me they're fake?
I didn't know you all didn't take url code. Just copy and paste the links to the browser.
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 03:24:20 AM
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 03:24:20 AM
You are doing it wrong. (http://www.google.com)
That said, humans and alligators coexist, right? As do humans and sharks. And several other species that did not change much in the past millions of years.
If you are trying to say that humans co-existed with the dinosaurs from, say, Jurassic period, then you are completely wrong. There were no humans on Earth back then.
That said, humans and alligators coexist, right? As do humans and sharks. And several other species that did not change much in the past millions of years.
If you are trying to say that humans co-existed with the dinosaurs from, say, Jurassic period, then you are completely wrong. There were no humans on Earth back then.
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Will on December 23, 2008, 03:39:56 AM
Post by: Will on December 23, 2008, 03:39:56 AM
I have some relatively ancient pottery from Europe which has depictions of humans and dragons coexisting. I have a really, really, really old clay bust of Apollo from Greece. Archeology is absolutely amazing.
None of the pieces you have posted are indisputably depictions of dinosaurs, and even if they were, humans have been aware of the existence of dinosaurs for thousands and thousands of years. There's evidence, in fact, that dinosaur remains inspired the ancient myths about dragons and other great creatures. Don't believe me? Research Chang Qu, one of the greatest historians in China's history. He wrote, nearly 1700 years ago, about a time ancient to him when dinosaur bones were discovered.
None of the pieces you have posted are indisputably depictions of dinosaurs, and even if they were, humans have been aware of the existence of dinosaurs for thousands and thousands of years. There's evidence, in fact, that dinosaur remains inspired the ancient myths about dragons and other great creatures. Don't believe me? Research Chang Qu, one of the greatest historians in China's history. He wrote, nearly 1700 years ago, about a time ancient to him when dinosaur bones were discovered.
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Squid on December 23, 2008, 05:43:53 AM
Post by: Squid on December 23, 2008, 05:43:53 AM
That site has got to be the largest pile of internet crap I've seen since I saw Hovind's webpage. Seriously, giants? Do they not realize how absurd that is - and their evidence? Fabricated artifacts and people with polydactyly? That's really pitiful. And then I run across this stupid claim which is completely and utterly false:
This is a complete fabrication. Piltdown man was criticized for being suspicious back at the very time it was introduced by Dawson.
This site is created by someone with way too much free time, not enough knowledge to know what they're talking about but just enough to sound semi-coherent for others who may share similar thinking. It is a work of the intellectually anorexic. BTW the formatting of the site itself is atrocious.
QuoteBut, did you know that over 500 people obtained their PhD's by writing their thesis on "the Piltdown Man"? I dare say, no one took back those PhDs after it was exposed, and those people taught hundreds of thousands of people.
This is a complete fabrication. Piltdown man was criticized for being suspicious back at the very time it was introduced by Dawson.
This site is created by someone with way too much free time, not enough knowledge to know what they're talking about but just enough to sound semi-coherent for others who may share similar thinking. It is a work of the intellectually anorexic. BTW the formatting of the site itself is atrocious.
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: curiosityandthecat on December 23, 2008, 01:16:20 PM
Post by: curiosityandthecat on December 23, 2008, 01:16:20 PM
Dude, I have a picture from when dinosaurz and humanz lived 2gethur!
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Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 03:15:25 PM
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 03:15:25 PM
That was from an animated series some 15 or so years back, no..? 
Methink I've watched it... When I was young.
Methink I've watched it... When I was young.
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: BadPoison on December 23, 2008, 04:47:46 PM
Post by: BadPoison on December 23, 2008, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"Dude, I have a picture from when dinosaurz and humanz lived 2gethur!Datz t3h awesomesauce rite thurr!
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Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: MariaEvri on December 23, 2008, 05:16:01 PM
Post by: MariaEvri on December 23, 2008, 05:16:01 PM
Quote from: "Asmodean"That was from an animated series some 15 or so years back, no..?
I think you mean dino riders
And btw I have proof that the olympic gods were real! All the marble statues we keep unearthing from ancient sites proove that!
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 06:02:03 PM
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: "MariaEvri"I think you mean dino ridersAnd I think you're right
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Dinokid on December 23, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
Post by: Dinokid on December 23, 2008, 07:08:19 PM
LOL Your First sentence is soooooooo funny.. You know how they've been aware of them for thousands of years? CUZ THEY'VE CO EXISTED with them. And yes, Ive heard of the Chinese finding dinosaur bones and that they have inspired the myths of the dragons, but that DOES NOT explain how EVERYWHERE in the world there are legends of dragons and dinosaur like creatures. Wanna explain that to me? Wanna tell me why Marco Polo, Or Napoleon, forgot which one it was, when he went to China he reported that there were DRAGONS pulling the chariots at Chinese parades? Wanna tell me why Alexander the Great reported that in the caves of India great hissing dragons were living in there? Where do you think they got all of that from? Why are there so many dragon myths ALLLLLLLL around the world? Where does all of this come from? Just a coincidence? Why are there so many eye wittnesses of what they said to be Plesiosaurs in the oceans, or Sauropods in the jungle, or many many accounts of Pterosaurs around the villages
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 07:27:52 PM
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: "Dinokid"LOL Your First sentence is soooooooo funny.. You know how they've been aware of them for thousands of years? CUZ THEY'VE CO EXISTED with them.Can I has at least a scrap of scientific evidence as backup of that claim?
Quote from: "Dinokid"And yes, Ive heard of the Chinese finding dinosaur bones and that they have inspired the myths of the dragons, but that DOES NOT explain how EVERYWHERE in the world there are legends of dragons and dinosaur like creatures.*Snort* You DO know that the dinosaurs lived not only in today's China but pretty much all over the world?
Quote from: "Dinokid"Wanna explain that to me? Wanna tell me why Marco Polo, Or Napoleon, forgot which one it was, when he went to China he reported that there were DRAGONS pulling the chariots at Chinese parades?Ah! I confuse those two as well. That is before I start confusing the Napoleons. Get your facts straight then ask again. roflol The Mystery of Loch Ness Monster strikes again!
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Will on December 23, 2008, 07:35:39 PM
Post by: Will on December 23, 2008, 07:35:39 PM
Quote from: "Dinokid"LOL Your First sentence is soooooooo funny..LOL it wasn't intended to be.
Quote from: "Dinokid"You know how they've been aware of them for thousands of years?There's verifiable archeological evidence. There are references to unearthing dinosaur bones dating back thousands of years.
Quote from: "Dinokid"CUZ THEY'VE CO EXISTED with them.Humans have existed in their current form for maybe a few hundred thousand years. Dinosaurs died out about 65 million years ago. The maths, based on carbon dating, don't lie.
Quote from: "Dinokid"And yes, Ive heard of the Chinese finding dinosaur bones and that they have inspired the myths of the dragons, but that DOES NOT explain how EVERYWHERE in the world there are legends of dragons and dinosaur like creatures. Wanna explain that to me?Sure, I do wanna. Dinosaurs lived on every land mass on Earth, not just SouthEast Asia. We have discovered fossil evidence of large reptiles everywhere from North America to Africa to Europe. We've known about dinosaur bones because there are times when they are found close to the surface.
Quote from: "Dinokid"Wanna tell me why Marco Polo, Or Napoleon, forgot which one it was, when he went to China he reported that there were DRAGONS pulling the chariots at Chinese parades?(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ehow.com%2Fimages%2FGlobalPhoto%2FArticles%2F2156009%2Fdragondancer-main_Full.jpg&hash=36b4c3f2c47dfb4e302fe9b3910f48c4060d1ad4)
I love Chinese New Year.
Quote from: "Dinokid"Wanna tell me why Alexander the Great reported that in the caves of India great hissing dragons were living in there?It perfectly fits with the description of a Komodo dragon:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komodo_dragon)
Quote from: "Dinokid"Why are there so many eye wittnesses of what they said to be Plesiosaurs in the oceans,Most of the sightings were of serpents. The sightings didn't start to resemble plesiosaurus until more recently, when records of the dinosaur were available to the general public.
Quote from: "Dinokid"or Sauropods in the jungle,I'm not familiar with this. Can you link to a reputable site?
Quote from: "Dinokid"or many many accounts of Pterosaurs around the villagesAgain, I'm not familiar with this. Do you have National Geographic articles on these? Or maybe Science Magazine? Or any other reputable source?
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: curiosityandthecat on December 23, 2008, 07:51:01 PM
Post by: curiosityandthecat on December 23, 2008, 07:51:01 PM
I would imagine it is similar to how sailors got this...
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When it was, in reality...
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstronkaszymona.republika.pl%2Fhotpot%2Fmanatee.jpg&hash=b7d9a1478fd406fc31e5cc9bf4a45f3c0bc9fb10)
It's called folklore.
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When it was, in reality...
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstronkaszymona.republika.pl%2Fhotpot%2Fmanatee.jpg&hash=b7d9a1478fd406fc31e5cc9bf4a45f3c0bc9fb10)
It's called folklore.
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 07:56:24 PM
Post by: Asmodean on December 23, 2008, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: "curiosityandthecat"I would imagine it is similar to how sailors got this...:hail:
(//Mermaid)
When it was, in reality...
(//Manatee)
It's called folklore.
Or as Robert Jordan put it, "As stories do, the story changed..."
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: MariaEvri on December 23, 2008, 08:32:38 PM
Post by: MariaEvri on December 23, 2008, 08:32:38 PM
I suggest reading smome good books on cryptozoology. Most explain where the ideas of those animals came from. I also suggest natural histry of dragons by michel meurger. It explains how the dragon legends came to be by FOSSILS found by people who dinbt know about dinosaurs, by people describing strange to them exotic creatures (the komodo mentioned above is an example) and even hoaxes that people strongly believed were true. (a bear skull attached with other bones passed as a dragon skull for many years)
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: SSY on December 24, 2008, 11:41:46 PM
Post by: SSY on December 24, 2008, 11:41:46 PM
LOOK GUYS!!! II FOUND PROOF HUMANS AND UNICORNS CO-EXISTED ONCE!!! HOW ELSE COULD THEY DRAW THIS PPICTURE!!!!!!!!111111oneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneoneleven
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Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Squid on December 25, 2008, 02:17:45 AM
Post by: Squid on December 25, 2008, 02:17:45 AM
Dinokid, have you ever done the secret story exercise? It shows a particularly poignant aspect of orally passed information where each person acts as a particular filter impressing their own interpretation and biases upon the story:
You sit in a group (cirle or line it doesn't matter as long as one person can whisper in the next person's ear) and the leader starts off with a short story of maybe one or two sentences. After (often as small as 5-6 people) the story has passed on the ending story is almost always a completely distorted one from the original (usually written down beforehand) story. It is for this simple reason that anecdotal evidence, especially ancient anecdotal evidence reported by less than reputable sources, is not all that useful to support a point. Jurassic period dinosaurs DO NOT nor have they ever coexisted with humanity. Their descendants do coexist with us - birds for one.
You see, it doesn't matter how much questionable anecdotal information you piece together, it doesn't stand up to one piece of empirical data. In folklore you can find stories of all kinds of similar mythical creatures across cultures this doesn't mean that they are real either. Please have a little more critical thinking operating than what has been displayed.
You sit in a group (cirle or line it doesn't matter as long as one person can whisper in the next person's ear) and the leader starts off with a short story of maybe one or two sentences. After (often as small as 5-6 people) the story has passed on the ending story is almost always a completely distorted one from the original (usually written down beforehand) story. It is for this simple reason that anecdotal evidence, especially ancient anecdotal evidence reported by less than reputable sources, is not all that useful to support a point. Jurassic period dinosaurs DO NOT nor have they ever coexisted with humanity. Their descendants do coexist with us - birds for one.
You see, it doesn't matter how much questionable anecdotal information you piece together, it doesn't stand up to one piece of empirical data. In folklore you can find stories of all kinds of similar mythical creatures across cultures this doesn't mean that they are real either. Please have a little more critical thinking operating than what has been displayed.
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: DennisK on January 03, 2009, 12:09:47 AM
Post by: DennisK on January 03, 2009, 12:09:47 AM
Yes dragons did exist. It is a known fact that shamans around the world have many accounts of seeing them along with many who use LSD, mushrooms, peyote, etc. today. It is a theory of mine that hallucinogens are the reason most religions originated.
Title: Re: I have proof humans and dinosaurs coexisted
Post by: Whitney on January 03, 2009, 02:52:19 AM
Post by: Whitney on January 03, 2009, 02:52:19 AM
Quote from: "Squid"Dinokid, have you ever done the secret story exercise?
We called it "telephone" In elementary school the teacher would have us stand in a line and she would tell the first kid something. By the time the last kid spoke it was very rarely close to the same thing the teacher said. We played it at least once a week, so all the kids knew what the game was.
It's a great exercise in understanding how rumors get formed...and folklore is basically an ancient rumor.