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Started by gwyn428, January 25, 2009, 09:30:27 PM

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billy rubin

question.

ive posted this before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEWy2QORDV4

i love philip glass, mostly. totally abstract stuff, and very deliberate. there's lots of space in his music, lots of open country.

but this obviouslly mechanical representation of this motion picture soundtrack has me puzzled.  can this be played by a human being without overdubbing?

the keys being pressed in the representation appear too far apart to be manipulated by a human hand, and the single keys being used to represent the melodies seem pretty simplistic. is the imagery simplified by a machine to represent playing the piece in such a way that a human being would not do?

i dunno shit about music, and this is puzzling me.


i expected nothing but im still disappointed

Magdalena

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on June 24, 2021, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on June 09, 2021, 05:44:01 AM
Dance with me, Ecurb Noselrub  ;)


Dang, I just saw this!!  Is it too late to dance??

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.........I don't know, man..."

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

hermes2015

Quote from: billy rubin on June 24, 2021, 09:54:09 PM
question.

ive posted this before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEWy2QORDV4

i love philip glass, mostly. totally abstract stuff, and very deliberate. there's lots of space in his music, lots of open country.

but this obviouslly mechanical representation of this motion picture soundtrack has me puzzled.  can this be played by a human being without overdubbing?

the keys being pressed in the representation appear too far apart to be manipulated by a human hand, and the single keys being used to represent the melodies seem pretty simplistic. is the imagery simplified by a machine to represent playing the piece in such a way that a human being would not do?

i dunno shit about music, and this is puzzling me.

You raise some interesting questions, to which I have no answers. I am just an amateur lover of music, with no technical knowledge of the inner workings of music, so I listen to music in a very unsophisticated way. My assumption is that this music is partially performed on a synthesizer, along with some traditional classical instruments and chorus. I think we should persuade a professional musician to join our HAF family.
"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

billy rubin

that would be really interesting

im not even sure i know what music is


i expected nothing but im still disappointed

Ecurb Noselrub

So, let us attempt to define "music".  Here is my shot: a grouping of sonorous sounds, characterized generally and broadly by rhythm and melody, that conveys some emotion without words.  If you add words, it is "music and lyrics". 

hermes2015

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on June 25, 2021, 03:25:28 PM
So, let us attempt to define "music".  Here is my shot: a grouping of sonorous sounds, characterized generally and broadly by rhythm and melody, that conveys some emotion without words.  If you add words, it is "music and lyrics".

Overall, your definition sounds good to me, but I believe the term "sonorous" is problematic, in a similar way to the word "beautiful" when one tries to define art. On the other hand, I must admit that I cannot offer a better definition.
"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

Ecurb Noselrub

Music is the sad, emotional cry of my heart when I am rejected by Mags for a dance.

hermes2015

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on June 25, 2021, 08:04:15 PM
Music is the sad, emotional cry of my heart when I am rejected by Mags for a dance.

Oh, now that one I like very much. I am going to submit it to Grove to be included in the next edition of their dictionary:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Grove_Dictionary_of_Music_and_Musicians
"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

Magdalena

Quote from: hermes2015 on June 26, 2021, 04:40:00 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on June 25, 2021, 08:04:15 PM
Music is the sad, emotional cry of my heart when I am rejected by Mags for a dance.

Oh, now that one I like very much. I am going to submit it to Grove to be included in the next edition of their dictionary:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Grove_Dictionary_of_Music_and_Musicians


I like it too.

"I've had several "spiritual" or numinous experiences over the years, but never felt that they were the product of anything but the workings of my own mind in reaction to the universe." ~Recusant

billy rubin

well what the hell is it, reallY

music: an artificial arrangement of sounds from various sources, conforming to a repetitive rhythm and pattern of notes . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUrzvLhxA0M

listen to the chemical brothers in ^^^this. this soundtrack was excellent, but it appears to violate some of what i might have considered musical rules.

or maybe not?


i expected nothing but im still disappointed

hermes2015

A definition of music isn't possible or, I suspect, even desirable. As soon as we think we've pinned it down, along comes a Debussy or a John Cage who redefines it for us. Meanwhile, all the other lesser composers will carry on, constrained in the straitjacket we call a definition of music. I was reading recently how the critics disapproved of Monteverdi, around 1600, for deviating from the established ideas of earlier music when he was experimenting with new forms of music we now call opera.

Still, I think it is  an interesting game to try and define things like music, beauty, or art.
"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

hermes2015

4'33" by John Cage - Live at the Barbican - BBC Four Collections

"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

hermes2015

"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

hermes2015

I can't believe I'm turning 75 next week, because I only feel 25, so forgive me if I indulge in a bit of nostalgia. I spent many nights walking through the dimly lit corridors of bath houses in Amsterdam, looking for a bit of amusement. The music playing in the background was often Andy Bell singing with Erasure.

"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames

hermes2015

Another song that evokes the smell of chlorine.

"Eventually everything connects - people, ideas, objects. The quality of the connections is the key to quality per se."
― Charles Eames