This decision will gall Trump and those of like mind. What in the hell is going on with the US Supreme Court? Mitch McConnell (Senate Majority Leader) prevented President Obama from putting a justice on the bench, which in due course allowed Trump to put
his choice onto the bench. This was supposed to help Trump enact his agenda, yet here we have the second big decision in less than a week that thwarts the Trumpist agenda. For our non-US members who don't know what DACA is: "Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals" |
Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_Action_for_Childhood_Arrivals)
"Trump's bid to end Obama-era immigration policy ruled unlawful" |
BBC (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53096887)
QuoteThe US Supreme Court has ruled against President Donald Trump's bid to end a programme that protects hundreds of thousands of young immigrants from deportation.
The justices upheld lower court rulings which found his move to rescind the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Daca) programme was "unlawful".
It protects "Dreamers" - undocumented youths brought to the US as children.
The Trump administration has sought to end the Obama-era policy since 2017.
The Supreme Court took up the case after lower courts ruled that the Trump administration did not adequately explain why it was ending the programme, criticising the White House's "capricious" explanations.
On Thursday, the justices voted 5-4 to uphold the lower courts' findings (https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/18-587_5ifl.pdf) that the administration's order violated the Administrative Procedure Act, which says a government action cannot be "arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion or otherwise not in accordance with law" or "unsupported by substantial evidence".
The ruling, which does not prevent the Trump administration from continuing in its efforts to end the programme, affects an estimated 700,000 young people who entered the US without documents as children.
In response to the decision, Mr Trump asked rhetorically in a tweet: "Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn't like me?"
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Trump can't help thinking it's about him, because that's how he views the world. In reality it's about policies that are contrary to the US Constitution and US law which are getting some push back from the Supreme Court.
Good news.
The chump has gone ape-er on Twitter. One tweet, he's rhetorically crying (probably to his base), "Do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesn't like me?" Cry me a river. ::)
once theyre in there, they cannot be removed, anx dont like to be treated like puppets.
hut they can be ignored. andrew jackson did tgat to the us zupreme court over the indian removalz that took some of my anceztors to oklahoma.
trumps people already ignore congress. im not sure that zupreme court decizionz will fare any better.
Excellent news. :)
I am cautiously optimistic.
I think your caution is justified. Roberts didn't come down one way or the other regarding the real question, and the title I gave this thread is aspirational rather than a statement of fact. :sadnod:
Some legal pundit I heard opining on this said that in his decision, Roberts had laid out a blueprint for how the reversal of DACA would pass the legal hurdle that it had failed in this case. So, keep an eye on this space, as the saying goes. :news:
That's right, it was more of a "Try again with the right words, hur-dur-durr administration!" Before this hur-dur-durr administration figures it out, the chump will (hopefully) be out of that office.
I heard it put like this--Justice Roberts to the Trump administration: "Please come back with better lies."
trump says he's coming back with a re-do.
this is a failing of his advisors. DACA is extremel;y popular with the majority of americans. if trump had held off until a possible next term, he could whine about the liberals frystrating his attempt while not actually doing it.
if he tries again and succeeds before the election it will be an albatross around his neck
^ He has so many albatross around his neck that the giant bird population will be noticeably diminished
I'd like to get away with giving him cement shoes, and having a henchman put some fish wrapped in newspaper on the porch. Alas, such a dream is not to be realized. :(
Quote from: Recusant on June 19, 2020, 03:23:13 AM
I think your caution is justified. Roberts didn't come down one way or the other regarding the real question, and the title I gave this thread is aspirational rather than a statement of fact. :sadnod:
Some legal pundit I heard opining on this said that in his decision, Roberts had laid out a blueprint for how the reversal of DACA would pass the legal hurdle that it had failed in this case. So, keep an eye on this space, as the saying goes. :news:
Thankfully--in this case at least--the Trump administration is not competent enough to follow a blueprint. Their administrative actions have consistently been found arbitrary and capricious, and they don't seem to learn from their mistakes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-real-reason-president-trump-is-constantly-losing-in-court/2019/03/19/f5ffb056-33a8-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-real-reason-president-trump-is-constantly-losing-in-court/2019/03/19/f5ffb056-33a8-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html)
Quote from: Anne D. on June 27, 2020, 07:24:52 AM
Quote from: Recusant on June 19, 2020, 03:23:13 AM
I think your caution is justified. Roberts didn't come down one way or the other regarding the real question, and the title I gave this thread is aspirational rather than a statement of fact. :sadnod:
Some legal pundit I heard opining on this said that in his decision, Roberts had laid out a blueprint for how the reversal of DACA would pass the legal hurdle that it had failed in this case. So, keep an eye on this space, as the saying goes. :news:
Thankfully--in this case at least--the Trump administration is not competent enough to follow a blueprint. Their administrative actions have consistently been found arbitrary and capricious, and they don't seem to learn from their mistakes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-real-reason-president-trump-is-constantly-losing-in-court/2019/03/19/f5ffb056-33a8-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/the-real-reason-president-trump-is-constantly-losing-in-court/2019/03/19/f5ffb056-33a8-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html)
Wow!
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Federal judges have ruled against the Trump administration at least 63 times over the past two years...