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Title: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 20, 2021, 05:09:13 PM
Anyone a member over there? Not much posted of late, but I stop by to check in every so often after joining in 2015. It would appear that Chris pulled the plug?
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Tank on October 20, 2021, 05:20:10 PM
I haven't done anything.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Recusant on October 20, 2021, 08:31:55 PM
Facebook and other more recent social sites have really taken a toll on the venerable world of message/discussion boards. Another recent casualty in the atheist/skeptic realm is Mindromp.

Just to note--my computer went on strike a few days ago, so I've been away. Still sorting things out.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: TheFightSong on January 26, 2022, 06:46:44 PM
Fakebook, Twatter, Dumblr, EwTube, Instagarbage, and other corporate platforms are there to create a dehumanizing environment for making the ultra-wealthy elites more wealthy than most people internationally through profitable advertisements, creepy datamining, global warming from harmful companies, increasing sweatshops that threaten human rights, etc. They are there to sell products, not truths. It's why investigative journalists get demonitized, shadowbanned, etc. They are not social platforms. They are profit platforms.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Icarus on January 27, 2022, 05:08:13 AM
It is apparent that FightSong is not a happy person.  I agree that the earth is in trouble, politicians are often corrupt, and our environment is in danger.  On the other hand, most of we Americans are living within reasonable means, and have a semblance of respect for one another.

My suggestion to FightSong is: the grass is not actually greener on the other side of the fence. Our glasses are, in fact, half full, not half empty.

Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: TheFightSong on January 27, 2022, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: Icarus on January 27, 2022, 05:08:13 AM
It is apparent that FightSong is not a happy person.  I agree that the earth is in trouble, politicians are often corrupt, and our environment is in danger.  On the other hand, most of we Americans are living within reasonable means, and have a semblance of respect for one another.

My suggestion to FightSong is: the grass is not actually greener on the other side of the fence. Our glasses are, in fact, half full, not half empty.

America's infrastructure is decaying. Poverty and homelessness are increasing because working class Americans are being treated like wage slaves due to increasing wealth inequality without a social safety net for healthcare nor paid parental leave as an example.

Amazon delivery truck drivers are working in sweatshop conditions that harm their well-being while keeping them in lots of poverty. The video game developers in America work in sweatshops that make them depressed, anxious, and suicidal because they do not get social time with their family nor friends. Regardless of how those video game developers are white collar workers, they do not get respectful employers. This used to not happen as much when family values mattered in America. Now, it has become a country that treats most Americans like dehumanized wage slaves that make ultra-wealthy people kleptocratically wealthier than the majority of humanity's population internationally.

The U.S. is an enemy of the internet. Despite what American dream bullshit the Americans believe, America is an enemy to online privacy and investigative journalism.

America is owned by fascist rulers. America is already stolen land because of the white, Christian, and male army that terrorized natives. This white, Christian, and male would be controlled by a fascist elite. This fascist elite would make America be founded on genocide, slavery, misogynistic religions, and racism. This fascist elite would indoctrinate working class Americans with broken education systems that turn them into obedient workers and impulsive consumers through capitalism. This fascist elite would gaslight working class Americans into believing America represents freedom when it does not. America has always been neglectful towards working class Americans since day one. Martin Luther King, Jr. realized this and spoke out against it until the F.B.I. assassinated him to keep American fascism alive.

Hollywood's rich and famous celebrities are corrupted sellouts that promote America's evil military-industrial complex owned by fascist rulers who bully countries into having sweatshops via fascist kleptocracy.

Working class Americans are not given easy access to proper education, non-propagandized media, wealth, power, and justice.

Human rights are a joke in America considering it is an enemy to the internet, online privacy, investigative journalism, protection to minors from grooming sickos because no child marriage ban for all states happened, child entertainers' well-being through abusive contracts in the cut-throat entertainment industry, etc. Disney is trafficking children by psychologically and physically abusing them right now. So, no. Many Americans do not live within reasonable means. They have been economically abandoned since day one when America was founded to benefit its fascist elite only. Rulers of the U.S. are economically dependent on endless wars overseas. Because they have not allowed a compassionate economy that keeps many people living within reasonable means. Soldiers in America usually come working class families while having P.T.S.D. until they probably die while fascist rulers of America stay alive living in filthily rich luxury during the pandemic. Meanwhile, more Americans are living in tents or overcrowdedly small homes without adequate insurance protection.

Student debt in higher education has artificially increased more every year decades ago to keep working class Americans in increasing poverty while ultra-wealthy people live luxuriously, especially during the pandemic. Which is why young adults are currently having an increasingly harder time affording homes, food, water, entertainment, and other things while they are students compared to older generations in America. Which is causing younger generations in America to have an increasingly harder time living independently without living in their parents' households. So, no. Many people in America are not living within reasonable means. Fascist rulers of America are making younger generations dumber, less skilled, and increasingly dependent on their parents. Civilization has decayed in America many decades ago as a result.

The specific amount of Americans respect each other. But dehumanizing prisons in America do the opposite of respect. Broken education systems designed to dehumanize working class Americans into obedience, stupidity, and poverty do the opposite of respect. Grifters who exploit weak and poor people by distracting them with religion to gain profit through fake charity in southern states do the opposite of respect. Fascist rulers of America do the opposite of respect. Religious grifting is one of the main reasons why southern states are more poor than northern states on average in America. Religious grifting is also one of the main reasons why domestic violence against women happens in southern states more than northern states in America. Religious grifting has caused southern states to have more crime than northern states on average, too. It is why some women have left southern states to live in northern states that are wealthier with less crime, domestic violence against women, and religious grifting. The military business people prey on poor people in southern states more than poor people in northern states on average by manipulating them to die young in endless wars. Sellout politicians in America do the opposite of respect as a result.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: TheFightSong on January 27, 2022, 12:08:10 PM
Women have less rights in southern states, especially Texas, than in northern states in America. This is what happens when misogynistic religions and toxic masculinity are influencing southern states than science and compassion. It is why some women have left southern states to live in northern states in America, so they aren't treated like second-class citizens.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Bad Penny II on January 27, 2022, 12:18:26 PM
Quote from: TheFightSong on January 27, 2022, 11:59:40 AM
America's infrastructure is decaying. Poverty and homelessness are increasing

Ye, that sucks, do you have any pets?
If you don't have a pet, what pet would you have, if you could?
If you could have a pet, but don't have a pet, what is wrong with you?
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: TheFightSong on January 27, 2022, 12:31:47 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on January 27, 2022, 12:18:26 PM
Quote from: TheFightSong on January 27, 2022, 11:59:40 AM
America's infrastructure is decaying. Poverty and homelessness are increasing

Ye, that sucks, do you have any pets?
If you don't have a pet, what pet would you have, if you could?
If you could have a pet, but don't have a pet, what is wrong with you?
Yes. I have pets.
If I didn't have a pet, then I'd want a dragon. Totally unrealistic, though.
But I feel weird having pets because I would rather have them live free in the wild instead of living in or around my home with limited things to do to keep them busy.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Bad Penny II on January 27, 2022, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: TheFightSong on January 27, 2022, 12:31:47 PM
If I didn't have a pet, then I'd want a dragon. Totally unrealistic, though.

You could get a small one.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: TheFightSong on January 27, 2022, 02:13:57 PM
True that I am not happy. I am a depressed, cynical, and misanthropic atheist instead. I have less incentive to be happy considering America, China, the U.K, Australia, North Korea, and other places have become Orwellian with online surveillance, censorship, and dehumanizing people to benefit wealthy rulers only. I have less incentive to be happy when investigative journalists are being attacked by ultra-wealthy rulers through elite-owned media companies and Orwellianistically monopolized internet through Google, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, etc. I have less incentive to be happy when internet freedom is being threatened when these puppet politicians are bluepilling people into pretentious comfort bubbles through censorship that prevents critical thinking, black comedy, genius intellect, etc. I have less incentive to be happy when sweatshops are increasing and profitably endless wars exist. I do not get an incentive to be happy in a world with tyrants. I replace happiness with a vengeful attitude. Because I am not going to be a happy doormat. Especially when I am far from being submissive and masochistic. I can read between the lines and know how to torture people successfully. I inherited that ability from being born into an ancestry of cut-throat people. As a result, knowledge distracts me from being happy. Ignorance is bliss sometimes. My paternal grandfather passed down his clinical depression to me. So, I was born with a self-destructive mind that keeps me unhappy, lacking motivation, and depression eating away at my emotions and energy. So, I feel like a borderline robot that is lazy. I used to have more motivation, energy, and emotions during my childhood. But now, most of that is gone. Even with antidepressant medication, a lot of things bore me and I become a zombie. The unfairness of this world makes me less incentivized to be genuinely happy anyway. Also, there has been a study done on people to determine their intelligence based on how happy they are. They came to the conclusion that people who have higher intelligence tend to be less happy. Not that I am surprised considering people with higher intelligence tend to be more aware and alert of what is happening in the world. Pretty sure it was the people who emotionally suffered that fought for human rights, advanced technology, modern medicine, etc. Females who have been oppressed by patriarchy for example. Black people like Martin Luther King, Jr. who were oppressed by white people for example. Working class people who were oppressed by theocratic kings of patriarchy for example. Homosexuals who were oppressed by government authorities that would not legalize same-sex marriage for example. I defend my right to not be happy when history is repeating itself from this unfair and cruel world. I would rather be prepared for danger than be blindly optimistic or blissfully ignorant.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on January 27, 2022, 04:12:46 PM
The interesting question is demographic shifts brought on by recent historical events and conditions. Lots of people are moving TO Texas, and Florida, and Arizona. Lots of people are moving AWAY from the north. Texas gained 2 congressional seats this last cycle. Florida gained one. We may be moving toward a situation where the right wing is totally located in some states and the left wing is in others. Texas' abortion law and Arizona's voting law (passed today - the legislature can overturn an election) are repressive and digressive. But people still move to these states. This next couple of election cycles will tell us a lot.

On the bright side, however, life is still good.  Of course, I'm a white male, so ....
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: billy rubin on January 28, 2022, 12:18:00 AM
Quote. . . and Arizona's voting law (passed today - the legislature can overturn an election) are repressive and digressive. But people still move to these states.

what?
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 28, 2022, 02:20:21 AM
Quote from: TheFightSong on January 27, 2022, 11:59:40 AM
Quote from: Icarus on January 27, 2022, 05:08:13 AM
It is apparent that FightSong is not a happy person.  I agree that the earth is in trouble, politicians are often corrupt, and our environment is in danger.  On the other hand, most of we Americans are living within reasonable means, and have a semblance of respect for one another.

My suggestion to FightSong is: the grass is not actually greener on the other side of the fence. Our glasses are, in fact, half full, not half empty.

America's infrastructure is decaying. Poverty and homelessness are increasing because working class Americans are being treated like wage slaves due to increasing wealth inequality without a social safety net for healthcare nor paid parental leave as an example.

Amazon delivery truck drivers are working in sweatshop conditions that harm their well-being while keeping them in lots of poverty. The video game developers in America work in sweatshops that make them depressed, anxious, and suicidal because they do not get social time with their family nor friends. Regardless of how those video game developers are white collar workers, they do not get respectful employers. This used to not happen as much when family values mattered in America. Now, it has become a country that treats most Americans like dehumanized wage slaves that make ultra-wealthy people kleptocratically wealthier than the majority of humanity's population internationally.

The U.S. is an enemy of the internet. Despite what American dream bullshit the Americans believe, America is an enemy to online privacy and investigative journalism.

America is owned by fascist rulers. America is already stolen land because of the white, Christian, and male army that terrorized natives. This white, Christian, and male would be controlled by a fascist elite. This fascist elite would make America be founded on genocide, slavery, misogynistic religions, and racism. This fascist elite would indoctrinate working class Americans with broken education systems that turn them into obedient workers and impulsive consumers through capitalism. This fascist elite would gaslight working class Americans into believing America represents freedom when it does not. America has always been neglectful towards working class Americans since day one. Martin Luther King, Jr. realized this and spoke out against it until the F.B.I. assassinated him to keep American fascism alive.

Hollywood's rich and famous celebrities are corrupted sellouts that promote America's evil military-industrial complex owned by fascist rulers who bully countries into having sweatshops via fascist kleptocracy.

Working class Americans are not given easy access to proper education, non-propagandized media, wealth, power, and justice.

Human rights are a joke in America considering it is an enemy to the internet, online privacy, investigative journalism, protection to minors from grooming sickos because no child marriage ban for all states happened, child entertainers' well-being through abusive contracts in the cut-throat entertainment industry, etc. Disney is trafficking children by psychologically and physically abusing them right now. So, no. Many Americans do not live within reasonable means. They have been economically abandoned since day one when America was founded to benefit its fascist elite only. Rulers of the U.S. are economically dependent on endless wars overseas. Because they have not allowed a compassionate economy that keeps many people living within reasonable means. Soldiers in America usually come working class families while having P.T.S.D. until they probably die while fascist rulers of America stay alive living in filthily rich luxury during the pandemic. Meanwhile, more Americans are living in tents or overcrowdedly small homes without adequate insurance protection.

Student debt in higher education has artificially increased more every year decades ago to keep working class Americans in increasing poverty while ultra-wealthy people live luxuriously, especially during the pandemic. Which is why young adults are currently having an increasingly harder time affording homes, food, water, entertainment, and other things while they are students compared to older generations in America. Which is causing younger generations in America to have an increasingly harder time living independently without living in their parents' households. So, no. Many people in America are not living within reasonable means. Fascist rulers of America are making younger generations dumber, less skilled, and increasingly dependent on their parents. Civilization has decayed in America many decades ago as a result.

The specific amount of Americans respect each other. But dehumanizing prisons in America do the opposite of respect. Broken education systems designed to dehumanize working class Americans into obedience, stupidity, and poverty do the opposite of respect. Grifters who exploit weak and poor people by distracting them with religion to gain profit through fake charity in southern states do the opposite of respect. Fascist rulers of America do the opposite of respect. Religious grifting is one of the main reasons why southern states are more poor than northern states on average in America. Religious grifting is also one of the main reasons why domestic violence against women happens in southern states more than northern states in America. Religious grifting has caused southern states to have more crime than northern states on average, too. It is why some women have left southern states to live in northern states that are wealthier with less crime, domestic violence against women, and religious grifting. The military business people prey on poor people in southern states more than poor people in northern states on average by manipulating them to die young in endless wars. Sellout politicians in America do the opposite of respect as a result.

I'd like to know what in the actual fuck this screed has to do with that website's disappearance from the internet.  :query:
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: TheFightSong on January 28, 2022, 03:19:26 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on January 27, 2022, 04:12:46 PM
The interesting question is demographic shifts brought on by recent historical events and conditions. Lots of people are moving TO Texas, and Florida, and Arizona. Lots of people are moving AWAY from the north. Texas gained 2 congressional seats this last cycle. Florida gained one. We may be moving toward a situation where the right wing is totally located in some states and the left wing is in others. Texas' abortion law and Arizona's voting law (passed today - the legislature can overturn an election) are repressive and digressive. But people still move to these states. This next couple of election cycles will tell us a lot.

On the bright side, however, life is still good.  Of course, I'm a white male, so ....

This is the equivalent of saying "it's fine" while the world is literally burning with global warming, increasing poverty, increasing sweatshops, Orwellian politics to keep the 1% ultra-wealthy via dehumanizing most people internationally, and America's infrastructure and its civilization continue to decay further. The people are moving to Texas because of how wealthy elites have corrupted blue states through lobbying, bribing, increasing wealth inequality, heavy government regulation equivalent to communism, poverty, homelessness, etc. California's communistic economy with expensive cost of living has caused increasing poverty, homelessness, lower I.Q's, mental health illnesses, decreasing freedom for entrepreneurs, etc. That is why there are people moving to Texas to avoid high taxes, California's heavy government regulation equivalent to communism, expensive cost of living, etc. There have been more people living in tents where Los Angeles is concerned for example. The people moving to Texas are avoiding that homelessness caused by California's communistic economy that leeches off of working class Americans. There are still people moving to blue states that have lower taxes, lower government regulation for entrepreneurship, lower crime rates, abortion rights for females, rights that give females and males full equality, and more opportunities to thrive than California does. Also, there are people trying to renounce their American citizenship for living in other countries. Because America has become a sinking ship while its rulers are economically dependent on endless wars because of how America's economy has been rigged for replacing compassion and justice with violent kleptocracy that traumatizes American soldiers. There's no rest for the wicked. So, America's rulers will ruthlessly do what they can to be ultra-wealthy even if it requires war and sweatshops. They are essentially creating hell on Earth while excessively fast-talking trolls like Ben Shapiro sell their souls to this scammy right-wing club for money. It's why Ben Shapiro has his wealthy net worth. Because true activists and honest journalists are being shadowbanned by these cut-throat corporations.

White males are being treated like crap in America because of elites owning media companies that keep Americans divided, hateful, and fearful. This how America's rulers distract the masses with nonsense. This is how America's rulers oppress working class Americans. Ben Shapiro keeps the masses distracted with nonsense, so the cut-throat Koch industry gains profits at the expense of working class Americans for example. Founders of the Koch industry are gaining a lot more wealth than their employees through kleptocracy. But these poorly educated and easily manipulated working class Americans keep giving these ultra-wealthy leeches money. This a reason why some people escaped America.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: TheFightSong on January 28, 2022, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 28, 2022, 02:20:21 AM
I'd like to know what in the actual fuck this screed has to do with that website's disappearance from the internet.  :query:
This "screed" is a response to what Icarus said. Not to talk about the RavingAtheists.com website. But I will say that website's disappearance might have something to do with its owner(s) lacking money, motivation, members, etc.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Icarus on February 12, 2022, 05:32:22 AM
Damn!  Whatever it was that I said, was certainly not intended to upset Fightsong. 

Maybe we can all work together to persuade her that things are not as bad as she believes.  Let us view the positive side for a moment.  We are among friends here at HAF.  I will go out a limb here and claim that we actually care about one another. Review the outpouring compassion for Dave and Randy for example.

This is a mean old world that is full of cruelty, treachery, greed, and dishonesty.  That I acknowledge.  But take a look at some of our forum's many photo submissions.  Can we not find beauty and hope in some of the marvelous photos from our members. There is beauty and hope everywhere if we will only choose to see it. We are, as far as I can tell, sufficiently nourished with food, have a shelter to allow us to sleep in some degree of comfort, and we have other people who truly care for, even love us. Sadly, some of us may not have the good fortune to recognize those gifts.

To live a reasonably happy and tranquil existence, you must believe that your cup is at least half full.

These notes may be mere pablum for some people.  I do care for them and wish for them to join me in gratitude for whatever blessings that we still have. 

     
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Davin on February 12, 2022, 06:28:58 AM
I don't know man, things are about as bad as all that. But I think there are better and healthier ways to deal with things. Maybe this is TheFightSong's place to relieve the stresses of life or maybe they are simply a troll parroting a straw anti-fascist for giggles.

Hopefully their life and mental health is not nearly as bad as it appears in this one dimension of their life that we're exposed to.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Tank on February 12, 2022, 08:59:53 AM
Quote from: Icarus on February 12, 2022, 05:32:22 AM
Damn!  Whatever it was that I said, was certainly not intended to upset Fightsong. 

...
   

Some people just go around looking to be offended. They thrive on hatred and perceived slights. Given multiple interpretations they will fall on the one related to their agenda like a priest on a virgin choir boy. In your 90+ years of life you must have come across people like this?
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: TheFightSong on February 12, 2022, 03:56:38 PM
Quote from: Icarus on February 12, 2022, 05:32:22 AM
Damn!  Whatever it was that I said, was certainly not intended to upset Fightsong. 

Maybe we can all work together to persuade her that things are not as bad as she believes.  Let us view the positive side for a moment.  We are among friends here at HAF.  I will go out a limb here and claim that we actually care about one another. Review the outpouring compassion for Dave and Randy for example.

This is a mean old world that is full of cruelty, treachery, greed, and dishonesty.  That I acknowledge.  But take a look at some of our forum's many photo submissions.  Can we not find beauty and hope in some of the marvelous photos from our members. There is beauty and hope everywhere if we will only choose to see it. We are, as far as I can tell, sufficiently nourished with food, have a shelter to allow us to sleep in some degree of comfort, and we have other people who truly care for, even love us. Sadly, some of us may not have the good fortune to recognize those gifts.

To live a reasonably happy and tranquil existence, you must believe that your cup is at least half full.

These notes may be mere pablum for some people.  I do care for them and wish for them to join me in gratitude for whatever blessings that we still have. 

   
Considering misogynistic religions with scriptures promoting slavery are worth trillions of dollars, I have no hope for humanity. Especially when I became an anti-religion atheist.

Considering people are not stopping evil leaders that profit from endless wars, I have no hope for humanity. Especially when I am anti-war and anti-military because those things cause toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity is typically known for causing misogyny, sociopathy, psychopathy, sadism, antisocial personality disorder, criminal behavior, rapes, mental illnesses, etc. Which countries that are peaceful and not influenced by a military culture tend to have happier people with less mental illnesses, sociopathy, psychopathy, crimes, rapes, etc.

Considering people are not stopping sweatshops enough, I have no hope for humanity in regards to ethics. Especially when I try to encourage people to stop financially supporting sweatshops.

Considering people are allowing mainstream media to turn females into insecure consumers for profit, I have no hope for humanity. Especially when I started to save money or try using it for ethical causes rather than support this profitable misogyny in the advertising industry.

Considering more countries are causing Orwellian online surveillance and anti-intellectualism via social credit scores for example, I have no hope for humanity. Especially when I try to encourage people to protect their online anonymity and privacy while encouraging freethought as much as possible.

Considering most people contribute to increasing global warming via the meat and dairy industries, I have no hope for humanity. Especially when I try to get organic meat and dairy from the most humane companies.

Considering more businesses have degenerated in regards to hospitality, customer support service, professionalism, and competence, I have no hope for humanity. Especially when I try to stop corrupt elites from degenerating businesses and humanity. But the corrupt elites continue keeping most people subordinated intellectually, physically, financially, politically, etc. through wage slavery, sweatshop trafficking, high taxes to prevent purchasing power for economic freedom, Orwellian online surveillance, central bank cartels, and the cut-throat military-industrial complex designed to keep ultra-wealthy men wealthier and more powerful than most people, especially black females who are atheists.

Ever heard of a black female atheist be the ruler of her own country? Me, neither. There is a reason for black female atheists not being known for being leaders. This is caused by internalized misogyny in the political world and when many countries are ruled by cut-throat men. Internalized misogyny in advertising, marketing, and the beauty industry does not help to remove patriarchy entirely, either.

More black people started to become religious after the black slave trade. The white and black slavers were Christians and Muslims. Christianity and Islam have scriptures that represent slavery. The black slaves started following slavery-promoting religions from their white and black slavers. More black people are becoming nonreligious again. But it is hard to do that when racist Hollywood, corrupt politicians, and systemic favoritism for religious grifting in powerful countries like America exist. So, black people have a hard time getting the incentive to be nonreligious when herd mentality and status quo all exist.

Black characters are usually treated like side-kicks or comic relief characters to make white characters look better in mainstream media. Which is why The Joker, Batman, Superman, Wonderwoman, and other well-known characters are originally and usually white. This is why black entertainers have a harder time gaining fame, money, respect, and diverse roles in the entertainment industry. People praising "Gone with the Wind" insults the black community. The reason why "Gone with the Wind" was successful came from people not having much options to choose from in movie theatres decades ago. America's economy wasn't the best when "Gone with the Wind" got released publicly in movie theatres. If you really analyze "Gone with the Wind", it is a mediocre soap opera that dehumanizes black characters by giving this sentiment towards slavery as if slaves want to be enslaved. Scarlett O'Hara was an evil opportunist who selfishly ruined people's lives even after her daughter died. Rhett Butler was a cut-throat sociopath or borderline sociopath that successfully manipulated people like pawns for his selfish agenda. His weakness was Scarlett O'Hara and his daughter Bonnie. Bonnie died and Scarlett O'Hara remained the evil opportunist. Meanwhile, Mammy somehow acts all supportive to these vile characters. Black characters continue acting supportive to white characters regardless of these white characters' moral compasses or lack thereof usually in mainstream media. It's why I have no hope for humanity. And it's why I have to look harder when finding entertainment.

Until things change, I see humanity as a plague where decency is harder to find than ugliness, greed, dishonesty, war, death, poverty, misery, sweatshops, global warming, mental illnesses, sociopathy, psychopathy, sadism, sexual abuse, misogyny, misandry, etc. I don't want beauty if it comes from anorexia, eating disorders, plastic surgery contributing to global warming, pain, suffering, soul-selling, etc.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2022, 05:10:20 PM
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Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Tank on February 12, 2022, 05:22:58 PM
Quote from: Papasito Bruno on February 12, 2022, 05:10:20 PM
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:rofl:
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Recusant on February 12, 2022, 07:44:35 PM
Come on folks, we have paragraph breaks now. Seriously, I think that is an excellent development, and promising.

TheFightSong:     :brava:
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: billy rubin on February 12, 2022, 07:56:04 PM
Quote from: TheFightSong on February 12, 2022, 03:56:38 PM
People praising "Gone with the Wind" insults the black community. The reason why "Gone with the Wind" was successful came from people not having much options to choose from in movie theatres decades ago. America's economy wasn't the best when "Gone with the Wind" got released publicly in movie theatres. If you really analyze "Gone with the Wind", it is a mediocre soap opera that dehumanizes black characters by giving this sentiment towards slavery as if slaves want to be enslaved. Scarlett O'Hara was an evil opportunist who selfishly ruined people's lives even after her daughter died. Rhett Butler was a cut-throat sociopath or borderline sociopath that successfully manipulated people like pawns for his selfish agenda. His weakness was Scarlett O'Hara and his daughter Bonnie. Bonnie died and Scarlett O'Hara remained the evil opportunist. Meanwhile, Mammy somehow acts all supportive to these vile characters. Black characters continue acting supportive to white characters regardless of these white characters' moral compasses or lack thereof usually in mainstream media. It's why I have no hope for humanity. And it's why I have to look harder when finding entertainment.

gone with the wind was a classic movie about a dysfunctional society that it tried to elevate to an epic pedestal. when they made it the american white south was still explicitly glorifying what it lost at the expense of all the black people who were ground into the dirt under the weight of its injustice.

still a benchmark movie, but you have to suspend so much of your own moral sense to watch it without cringing that i dont try. i recommend that people watch it for its technical achievements, but to keep its moral failings in mind the whole time.

this period teaser is instructive



^^^complete non-recognition of the reasons behind the conflict, the pillars that supported the failing culture, or of the role of the black people in maintaining it or any understanding that a large part of the population-- the slaves themselves-- might have seen the culture or its end in a different light.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Tom62 on February 13, 2022, 09:27:21 AM
Maybe it is a good idea not to give a damn about things you are not able to change anyway. Quite often people just take all the world problems on their shoulders and just feel miserable all the time.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Tank on February 13, 2022, 02:18:51 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on February 13, 2022, 09:27:21 AM
Maybe it is a good idea not to give a damn about things you are not able to change anyway. Quite often people just take all the world problems on their shoulders and just feel miserable all the time.

Quite so. The thing is that in the past one had to be very active to see all the misery in the world. All you need today is a Facebook account and it floods into your consciousness.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Icarus on February 14, 2022, 06:31:41 AM
^^ Toms' advice is worth a try.  Alternatively, we could get one of the "give a fuck' meters that Mags showed us on a previous post. 

Do you suppose that I could get one of those meters from Amazon?
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 14, 2022, 05:57:02 PM
Remember what John Lennon sang in "Revolution" - "But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone, anyhow."

If you lash out at everything and everyone all the time, then people just don't want to listen to you. You become ineffective as a communicator of whatever position you are espousing. But, if your goal is not to change anything but just to lash out, then by all means, continue.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Mr. B on February 14, 2022, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: TheFightSong on February 12, 2022, 03:56:38 PM
Until things change, I see humanity as a plague where decency is harder to find than ugliness, greed, dishonesty, war, death, poverty, misery, sweatshops, global warming, mental illnesses, sociopathy, psychopathy, sadism, sexual abuse, misogyny, misandry, etc. I don't want beauty if it comes from anorexia, eating disorders, plastic surgery contributing to global warming, pain, suffering, soul-selling, etc.

I'm not sure if it's irony or not that you somehow found your way to the "Happy" Atheist Forum. I convinced myself that  humanity was a lost cause in the early '90s. I decided that I would not bring any children into this world. It's easy to see misery and pain and injustice, one doesn't have to try very hard, It's everywhere. However, there exists simultaneously beauty and hope and love. You just have to look in different places to find them.

If you want to see things change, change the things you see.

I don't mean just changing the channel or cancelling social media or stop reading horror stories in the news but find a way, your way, to effect the change you would like to see. Volunteer to help people who need help. Run for office. Start a 501-C3. Do something. Don't just sit around and complain about it.


Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: billy rubin on February 14, 2022, 07:22:58 PM
i believ fightsong has moved on
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Mr. B on February 14, 2022, 07:37:16 PM
Maybe but it's only been two days. Heck, I was gone for two years.
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: billy rubin on February 14, 2022, 10:32:24 PM
nah

i knew where you were
Title: Re: RavingAtheists.com
Post by: Mr. B on February 14, 2022, 10:39:36 PM
Well sure. But it wasn't here.