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Laid Back Lounge / Re: The Art and things we've m...
Last post by hermes2015 - Today at 07:46:55 AM
Quote from: Icarus on Today at 05:04:09 AMTee shirt printers routinely use a heat panel to semi cure an application of plastisol, before the next print color is added. That prevents the blending of successive colors. 

110 mesh is capable of about 40 line print.  I have used much finer mesh like 420 and 510 to produce as much as 120 line process work. In that case I was printing on metal or other non textile substrate. With the high end stuff it was almost always done with UV cured inks. Never wax though............

That's interesting. I use a tool called a tjanting for lines and a broad bristle (natural, not synthetic) brush for big areas.


Like all techniques, it requires some practice, but I have become quite adept at its use.
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Laid Back Lounge / Re: The Art and things we've m...
Last post by Icarus - Today at 05:04:09 AM
Tee shirt printers routinely use a heat panel to semi cure an application of plastisol, before the next print color is added. That prevents the blending of successive colors.   

110 mesh is capable of about 40 line print.  I have used much finer mesh like 420 and 510 to produce as much as 120 line process work. In that case I was printing on metal or other non textile substrate. With the high end stuff it was almost always done with UV cured inks. Never wax though............
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Laid Back Lounge / Re: Chilli advice
Last post by Icarus - Today at 04:52:17 AM
Wow! those things must be a lot hotter than anything I have, or will ever  tried.  Capsaicin is sometimes used as an analgesic for muscle strains and arthritis pain. I suspect that there may be some downsides to using such evil brew.

Many years ago my sainted mother was a gardener who sometimes grew peppers of one sort or another. She had been experimenting with hydroponic gardening and had developed a bumper crop of tiny little red peppers. They were viciously hot.  The practical woman that she was, decided to preserve some of the peppers into pepper sauce as well as pepper jelly.

In the process of preparing the sauce and jelly mixtures she had to handle the peppers numerous times. Within 24 hours her hands had broken out with the most severely painful rash that she had ever experienced. She landed in the hospital for several days.  She vowed never to touch another "infernal god damned pepper" even though she was not normally given over to profane expression.. We never learned what variety of pepper brought her so much pain.

The Carolina Reaper may be a tool of Satan so beware. 
#4
Forum Suggestions & Announcements / Re: HAF's future
Last post by billy rubin - May 15, 2025, 08:47:57 PM
members always go cold. the key is to continuosly replace them.

i think different kinds of forums have specific life cycles, depending upon the subject matter.

some subjects have a large number of potential participants, others less so.

one thing that i have observed will increase forum participation is dedicated spamming by a few individuals, advertizing the forum to a larger group. that works pretty well.
#5
Laid Back Lounge / Re: Petrol head thread!!!
Last post by Dark Lightning - May 15, 2025, 05:10:55 PM
I saw that elsewhere. I would opt for making it an "SUV", as I'd want the cargo space enclosed. FWIW, I paid about that amount for a new Kia Forte, 9 years ago. It has AC (needed here in southern California), but it isn't electric. Wife and I are considering a hybrid vehicle for her, when the warranty expires on her car, which is in 5 years. I'm on a low-level search for some more old iron. Something that I can maintain myself.
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Forum Suggestions & Announcements / Re: HAF's future
Last post by Vocaloldfart - May 15, 2025, 10:25:39 AM
firstly investigating why members have gone cold. An emailed survey should do the trick
Then a Strengths, weakness, opportunities and threat analysis.
   
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Forum Suggestions & Announcements / Re: HAF's future
Last post by Tank - May 15, 2025, 08:06:30 AM
Go for it. What do you suggest?
#8
Laid Back Lounge / Re: Chilli advice
Last post by Vocaloldfart - May 15, 2025, 07:47:28 AM
Quote from: Icarus on May 15, 2025, 04:56:42 AMWhere does one find Carolina Reapers?  From one of the Carolinas or perhaps from the gates of hell? ...
They are the only  meals available in hell.Also available as hor dervs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_Reaper gives you some useful information. I got original seeds from a seed merchant.
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Science / Re: Fossil from most primitive...
Last post by Recusant - May 15, 2025, 07:45:43 AM
Did a site search for "tetrapod" and got only this thread. I recognise several of the usernames.  :)

A revision in the proposed timeline of tetrapod evolution appears to be in order. Cool stuff!

Years ago Dr Ahlberg (principle author of the paper and co-author of the article below) was a member of a different rationalist/atheist discussion board. He's a witty gent with a respectably wide knowledge of biology and evolution as well as being on the sharp edge of investigating early tetrapods.

"Two lizard-like creatures crossed tracks 355 million years ago. Today, their footprints yield a major discovery" | The Conversation

QuoteThe emergence of four-legged animals known as tetrapods was a key step in the evolution of many species today – including humans.

Our new discovery, published today in Nature, details ancient fossil footprints found in Australia that upend the early evolution timeline of all tetrapods. It also suggests major parts of the story could have played out in the southern supercontinent of Gondwana.

This fossil trackway whispers that we have been looking for the origin of modern tetrapods in the wrong time, and perhaps the wrong place.

Tetrapods originated a long time ago in the Devonian period, when strange lobe-finned fishes began to haul themselves out of the water, probably around 390 million years ago.

This ancestral stock later split into two main evolutionary lines. One led to modern amphibians, such as frogs and salamanders. The other led to amniotes, whose eggs contain amniotic membranes protecting the developing foetus.

Today, amniotes include all reptiles, birds and mammals. They are by far the most successful tetrapod group, numbering more than 27,000 species of reptiles, birds and mammals.

They have occupied every environment on land, have conquered the air, and many returned to the water in spectacularly successful fashion. But the fossil record shows the earliest members of this amniote group were small and looked rather like lizards. How did they emerge?

The oldest known tetrapods have always been thought to be primitive fish-like forms like Acanthostega, barely capable of moving on land.

Most scientists agree amphibians and amniotes separated at the start of the Carboniferous period, about 355 million years ago. Later in the period, the amniote lineage split further into the ancestors of mammals and reptiles-plus-birds.

Now, this tidy picture falls apart.

Key to our discovery is a 35 centimetre wide sandstone slab from Taungurung country, near Mansfield in eastern Victoria.

The slab is covered with the footprints of clawed feet that can only belong to early amniotes, most probably reptiles. It pushes back the origin of the amniotes by at least 35 million years.

[Continues . . .]

The paper is open access:

"Earliest amniote tracks recalibrate the timeline of tetrapod evolution" | Nature

QuoteAbstract:

The known fossil record of crown-group amniotes begins in the late Carboniferous with the sauropsid trackmaker Notalacerta1, and the sauropsid body fossil Hylonomus. The earliest body fossils of crown-group tetrapods are mid-Carboniferous, and the oldest trackways are early Carboniferous. This suggests that the tetrapod crown group originated in the earliest Carboniferous (early Tournaisian), with the amniote crown group appearing in the early part of the late Carboniferous.

Here we present new trackway data from Australia that challenge this widely accepted timeline. A track-bearing slab from the Snowy Plains Formation of Victoria, Taungurung Country, securely dated to the early Tournaisian, shows footprints from a crown-group amniote with clawed feet, most probably a primitive sauropsid. This pushes back the likely origin of crown-group amniotes by at least 35–40 million years. We also extend the range of Notalacerta into the early Carboniferous.

The Australian tracks indicate that the amniote crown-group node cannot be much younger than the Devonian/Carboniferous boundary, and that the tetrapod crown-group node must be located deep within the Devonian; an estimate based on molecular-tree branch lengths suggests an approximate age of early Frasnian for the latter.

The implications for the early evolution of tetrapods are profound; all stem-tetrapod and stem-amniote lineages must have originated during the Devonian. It seems that tetrapod evolution proceeded much faster, and the Devonian tetrapod record is much less complete, than has been thought.





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Laid Back Lounge / Re: Chilli advice
Last post by hermes2015 - May 15, 2025, 06:52:45 AM
My one aunt (father's sister) was called Caroline, but she wasn't hot.