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Title: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on January 14, 2021, 12:37:00 AM
trump is now impeached.

only afterwards did he putout this really good video trying to revise jhis own history.

https://youtu.be/hDNiNdsPHNA

if only this was true. but trump contradicts his own words and history throughout it, as he throws his supporters under the bus.

he does manage to hold off complaining about losing his twitter account all the way until 4:00

it was very important that trump be held accountable by going forward with an impeachment. without it, trum,p would heve simply revised his interpretation of events and been in the position to re-write the history of last week.

he is now unable to do that, and must react to a public narrative not under his own control, rather than dictating what will be discussed and how

notice how he is concentrating so hard on the teleprompter that he never makes eye contact with the camera.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Icarus on January 14, 2021, 12:57:44 AM
Too late Donald!  May you rot in the seventh ring of hell for the damage you have done to my nation and it's people.  You have managed to create a sociological train wreck because of your incessant, destructive, lies.  Please have enough sense to go away so that we can try to forget all the damage that you have done. 
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 14, 2021, 02:25:55 AM
Quote from: Icarus on January 14, 2021, 12:57:44 AM
Too late Donald!  May you rot in the seventh ring of hell for the damage you have done to my nation and it's people.  You have managed to create a sociological train wreck because of your incessant, destructive, lies.  Please have enough sense to go away so that we can try to forget all the damage that you have done.

Agreed! But just watch. Unless he gets incarcerated, he's going to bloviate until the day he dies.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on January 14, 2021, 02:30:47 AM
I say let's make some impeach cobbler.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: hermes2015 on January 14, 2021, 02:48:13 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on January 14, 2021, 02:30:47 AM
I say let's make some impeach cobbler.

:rofl:
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 14, 2021, 03:45:14 AM
Oh, man, I'm going to buy some for dinner tomorrow. We'll all get a chuckle out of that, before dinner. But during dinner, there will be no political discussion. That sad sack ruins my appetite.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Recusant on January 14, 2021, 04:50:52 AM
Picayune quibble #37,199 --

If we're going by the mythology as described by Dante, soon-to-be-ex President Trump would seem destined to spend eternity somewhere between the eighth (fraud) and ninth (treachery) circles of Hell. The seventh circle of Hell is for the violent.  (source (https://historylists.org/art/9-circles-of-hell-dantes-inferno.html)) :pedant:

As with the sacking of the Capitol itself, the primary value of the impeachment vote of the 13th was that it gave the Republicans a chance to show themselves for what they are. In my opinion.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Tank on January 14, 2021, 08:11:04 AM
 :watching:
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on January 14, 2021, 02:22:46 PM
i am fascinated. i s just tried to access my state representative's website,and all i get iss acaptcha that scycless twice, and then a message that reads:

The specified URL is inaccessible at this time. Please try after some time.


this is my federal government representative, apparently in hiding from me and other constcituents. he was one of thae ones who voted to overturn the election. he voted against impeachment yesterday.

he's a loyal spear carrier s for the republican party who is in hiss distrcict so rarely that the people in his local office could not remember the last time he swas s in town. his website generally has pictures of a few public events, but he never announces s them in advance or s tells people anythicing about them until theyre over and he's left.

he was installead in s our gerrymandered district a few years back and will stay indeicnitiely until my district is redrawn.  you can drive across an urban democratic district in s ohio icn about half an hour. my district is a seven hour drive from north to south. currently it went for donald trump in 2016 by 17 percentage points.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on January 14, 2021, 02:31:22 PM
I missed four days of news. It didn't take the house long to impeach him. I'm trying to catch up on all that has happened.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Davin on January 14, 2021, 03:12:29 PM
It was a pretty clear cut case. But the more people look into it, the worse it's looking. Some Rep reps had given some of the insurrectionists tours the day before and some Dem reps reported their panic buttons had been removed prior to the raid.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on January 14, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
Davin, I've missed so much. I didn't know about the panic buttons removed.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Tank on January 14, 2021, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: Randy on January 14, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
Davin, I've missed so much. I didn't know about the panic buttons removed.

To be fair I didn't even know they had panic buttons.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on January 14, 2021, 11:32:50 PM
Quote from: Tank on January 14, 2021, 04:24:28 PM
Quote from: Randy on January 14, 2021, 03:19:37 PM
Davin, I've missed so much. I didn't know about the panic buttons removed.

To be fair I didn't even know they had panic buttons.
Come to think of it, neither did I.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 15, 2021, 01:22:38 AM
I didn't either, but maybe there's a reason not to. Though one must admit that there are some crazy people out there. If the part about that panic buttons is true, there is complicity with law enforcement or something, because when the representative isn't in the office the door should be locked. If so, they probably have electronic badge scanners...and people gaining entry in the few days prior to the insurrection would have that reading on file in the database.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on January 15, 2021, 03:00:48 AM
Now a Q-Anon Congresswoman says she will introduce articles of impeachment against Biden on Jan. 21, for unspecified reasons. Can someone please save us?
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 15, 2021, 03:12:00 AM
She'll get all the respect she deserves on whatever offenses she cites. Isn't this the creature who was reporting on Pelosi's whereabouts during the insurrection, last week?
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: No one on January 15, 2021, 07:14:30 AM
Is crack legal in DC?
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Tank on January 15, 2021, 08:46:26 AM
Quote from: No one on January 15, 2021, 07:14:30 AM
Is crack legal in DC?

Only if you are rich enough.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: hermes2015 on January 16, 2021, 03:26:53 AM
Quote from: No one on January 15, 2021, 07:14:30 AM
Is crack legal in DC?

I could be called something of a connoisseur after sampling the local crack in many places, but never in DC.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 16, 2021, 04:16:55 AM
 :???: I'm not really clear on the type of "crack" that is being discussed here.  ;D
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: hermes2015 on January 16, 2021, 05:44:54 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 16, 2021, 04:16:55 AM
:???: I'm not really clear on the type of "crack" that is being discussed here.  ;D

Oh, you are so naughty.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men

It's a gift. :smilenod: I would like to meet Hermes in person, he strikes me as a real Renaissance Man, which I strove to be over my lifetime, perhaps with not as much success.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men

It's a gift. :smilenod: I would like to meet Hermes in person, he strikes me as a real Renaissance Man, which I strove to be over my lifetime, perhaps with not as much success.

Thank you for that flattering comment, but I fear you would be disappointed. I genuinely see myself as one-dimensional, and therefore rather boring. My interests are mainly in the visual arts, music, design, and architecture, so I cannot contribute meaningfully to most party conversations and come across as a cold observer.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Sandra Craft on January 17, 2021, 03:45:20 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 15, 2021, 03:12:00 AM
She'll get all the respect she deserves on whatever offenses she cites. Isn't this the creature who was reporting on Pelosi's whereabouts during the insurrection, last week?

I think so, but I couldn't swear to it.  Lot of crazies in office right now.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on January 17, 2021, 03:52:52 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on January 15, 2021, 03:00:48 AM
Now a Q-Anon Congresswoman says she will introduce articles of impeachment against Biden on Jan. 21, for unspecified reasons. Can someone please save us?
I fear that our country's days are numbered as a republic. I don't know what articles she could present since he has yet to take the oath of office.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 03:58:49 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men

It's a gift. :smilenod: I would like to meet Hermes in person, he strikes me as a real Renaissance Man, which I strove to be over my lifetime, perhaps with not as much success.

Thank you for that flattering comment, but I fear you would be disappointed. I genuinely see myself as one-dimensional, and therefore rather boring. My interests are mainly in the visual arts, music, design, and architecture, so I cannot contribute meaningfully to most party conversations and come across as a cold observer.

Get a couple of drinks in you, you could be fun. I'm pretty much the same way until I get a couple of drinks in. :beers:
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on January 17, 2021, 04:02:40 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 03:58:49 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men

It's a gift. :smilenod: I would like to meet Hermes in person, he strikes me as a real Renaissance Man, which I strove to be over my lifetime, perhaps with not as much success.

Thank you for that flattering comment, but I fear you would be disappointed. I genuinely see myself as one-dimensional, and therefore rather boring. My interests are mainly in the visual arts, music, design, and architecture, so I cannot contribute meaningfully to most party conversations and come across as a cold observer.

Get a couple of drinks in you, you could be fun. I'm pretty much the same way until I get a couple of drinks in. :beers:
Yeah Hermes, get four dimensional for us!
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 04:45:57 AM
Quote from: Randy on January 17, 2021, 04:02:40 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 03:58:49 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men

It's a gift. :smilenod: I would like to meet Hermes in person, he strikes me as a real Renaissance Man, which I strove to be over my lifetime, perhaps with not as much success.

Thank you for that flattering comment, but I fear you would be disappointed. I genuinely see myself as one-dimensional, and therefore rather boring. My interests are mainly in the visual arts, music, design, and architecture, so I cannot contribute meaningfully to most party conversations and come across as a cold observer.

Get a couple of drinks in you, you could be fun. I'm pretty much the same way until I get a couple of drinks in. :beers:
Yeah Hermes, get four dimensional for us!

So, you want me to disappear? If I move around in the 4th dimension, I will go to another time.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Magdalena on January 17, 2021, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 04:45:57 AM
Quote from: Randy on January 17, 2021, 04:02:40 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 03:58:49 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men

It's a gift. :smilenod: I would like to meet Hermes in person, he strikes me as a real Renaissance Man, which I strove to be over my lifetime, perhaps with not as much success.

Thank you for that flattering comment, but I fear you would be disappointed. I genuinely see myself as one-dimensional, and therefore rather boring. My interests are mainly in the visual arts, music, design, and architecture, so I cannot contribute meaningfully to most party conversations and come across as a cold observer.

Get a couple of drinks in you, you could be fun. I'm pretty much the same way until I get a couple of drinks in. :beers:
Yeah Hermes, get four dimensional for us!

So, you want me to disappear? If I move around in the 4th dimension, I will go to another time.
:snicker:
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on January 17, 2021, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 04:45:57 AM
Quote from: Randy on January 17, 2021, 04:02:40 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 03:58:49 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men

It's a gift. :smilenod: I would like to meet Hermes in person, he strikes me as a real Renaissance Man, which I strove to be over my lifetime, perhaps with not as much success.

Thank you for that flattering comment, but I fear you would be disappointed. I genuinely see myself as one-dimensional, and therefore rather boring. My interests are mainly in the visual arts, music, design, and architecture, so I cannot contribute meaningfully to most party conversations and come across as a cold observer.

Get a couple of drinks in you, you could be fun. I'm pretty much the same way until I get a couple of drinks in. :beers:
Yeah Hermes, get four dimensional for us!

So, you want me to disappear? If I move around in the 4th dimension, I will go to another time.
Not at all. I want you to get four dimensional. Become a tesseract!
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: hermes2015 on January 18, 2021, 03:14:28 AM
Quote from: Randy on January 17, 2021, 06:46:53 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 04:45:57 AM
Quote from: Randy on January 17, 2021, 04:02:40 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 03:58:49 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on January 17, 2021, 03:23:20 AM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on January 17, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on January 17, 2021, 12:57:22 AM
lol

dirty old men

It's a gift. :smilenod: I would like to meet Hermes in person, he strikes me as a real Renaissance Man, which I strove to be over my lifetime, perhaps with not as much success.

Thank you for that flattering comment, but I fear you would be disappointed. I genuinely see myself as one-dimensional, and therefore rather boring. My interests are mainly in the visual arts, music, design, and architecture, so I cannot contribute meaningfully to most party conversations and come across as a cold observer.

Get a couple of drinks in you, you could be fun. I'm pretty much the same way until I get a couple of drinks in. :beers:
Yeah Hermes, get four dimensional for us!

So, you want me to disappear? If I move around in the 4th dimension, I will go to another time.
Not at all. I want you to get four dimensional. Become a tesseract!

Thank you, my friend.  :hug:
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on January 30, 2021, 04:18:17 PM
I read in the news today that
Quote"I think he's been held accountable in the court of public opinion already," [Senator] Cornyn said when asked if the Senate should take any actions, arguing it would set a "dangerous precedent" to convict a former President.

Full story here (https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/29/politics/senate-republicans-trump-impeachment-capitol-riot/index.html)

OJ Simpson was held accountable in public opinion too but he's still out golfing. I think the republicans (majority of them) don't want to clean their hands of this piece of dirt called "Trump".
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on January 30, 2021, 06:39:11 PM
as it currently stands the impeachment is dead in teh water. the republicans came to thier senses and realized that donald trump still held the proximate reins to the republican party.

kevin mccarthy, the house minority leader, changed his condemnation to milquetoast and flew to florida to kiss trumps ass ring . . .

the rest are now stating thatthe impeachment trial is uncobnstitutional, thereby allowing themselves the opportunity to avoid a difficult vote for or against him.

the kicker is that donald trump:

a) could not muster s enough support to be elected

b) could not muster enough support to hold the senate.

c) could not muster enough enough support to take the house

. . . and yet the reppublicans still bow to kiss his ass. the reason is obvious. while trump cannot win a national election voted on by the general populace, he can still influence primaries, which are generally voted on mostly by the rabid true-believers.

so while trump cannot hold the senate, he can choose who will get the chance to run as a republican in ay forthcoming senate election . . .

the republicans aren't stupid. they are simply corrupt. as soon as trump loses enough influence for them to throw him out of the sleigh, they will, but that tim eis not yet .

look for a farce of fake self-righteous indignation in the senate trial, and then four years of cold analysis while the republicans decide whether to keep trump on as a real leader, as a figurehead, or to retire him to the statuary hall

Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 01, 2021, 12:32:05 AM
It's enough to make one disgusted, disillusioned, disappointed, and disheartened by the whole political process.  I hereby dis the whole thing.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 01, 2021, 01:09:17 AM
well the theatre just got more comedic. with8 days to go, all five of trumps lawyers bailed on him. apparently he demanded that they defend him with an argument that excused him because the election was stolen. . . .

then tkday he got two new ones, with one week to gin up a defence.

im guessing it will be a poor defence due to lack of preparation, andCD will make the senate republicans acceptance of it look especially craven.

but shoot, who knows
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 01, 2021, 01:13:51 AM
Sad but true, both party's representatives have endorsed truth, in the past, mostly. But at this point, the Republican party has sold out and will follow this joker. The reason is simple- he's their only hope for them to keep holding the power. That shit isn't crazy, except to be called crazy smart. People make the mistake of calling him stupid because of the stupid shit he says, but unfortunately, saying stupid shit to the "right"  ::) people gets votes, and thus, offices.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Icarus on February 02, 2021, 03:57:53 AM
The real upsetting problem in not Trump or his Senate toadies. The real problem is the misguided dumb asses that constitute the general public.  How in the the name of hell can John Q, Public not see that the Trump person is a demonstrated psychotic, lying, braggart, racist, neo fascist who invents bullshit facts to suit the occasion.  There are at least 70 odd millions of them out there. Holy Kamoli are those people paying attention to reality at all?  How in hell did we get so many shamefully ignorant people dispersed into our society??????

Not all off the deluded ones are high school dropouts.  Not all of them are stupid either....except with their hard headed adherance to the word of their appointed Lord; Donald

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Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 02, 2021, 04:17:19 AM
Yes, there really all that many stupid people out there. I was across the street talking to the neighbor about a table he was building, and he went off with a diatribe about the ineffectiveness of the Covid PCR test. Part of his discourse was about how the test was used on a kiwi fruit, and it tested positive.  :o It's hard to believe that this guy has a college education. In retrospect, I should have asked him if he gargled kerosene to help with a sore throat. It makes as much sense as using the PCR test improperly. The sad part is, he believed that without knowing if that "test" had even been performed. Right wing media has a lot to answer for in this country.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Recusant on February 02, 2021, 04:48:51 AM
Apparently there is a video of some intrepid truth-seeker testing a kiwi fruit. I admit I took a look, but the few seconds I watched of it were lost on me because it's in Italian, and all I intended to do was verify its existence. I did notice that they also tested some berries, and got a positive result from them as well.

Another exemplar of deep thinking tested some Coca-Cola and got the same result, after ignoring the instructions on how to prepare a sample. They've exposed the charade, I tell you.   :cracked:

Or it could be as you say. That misusing a test will break the test, and that all you've done is shown that you really don't understand what you're doing. A positive result from a kiwi fruit doesn't mean the test is ineffective for revealing the presence of the virus. It means that when you use the test on a kiwi fruit you get a positive result, which in turn means nothing.

Either way. I mean, there's two sides to everything, right?

Further reading:

"A kiwi fruit did not test 'positive' for Covid" | Full Fact (https://fullfact.org/online/kiwi-covid/)

Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 02, 2021, 03:23:28 PM
the number of dumbasses hasnt changed

(https://www.scienceabc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/stangor-fig09_007.jpg)

half of the people you meet onthe street willalways have below average cognitive ability, on any way you choose to measure it. not a big deal, because intelligence is not what makes societies work well. nazi death camp commandants were conniseurs of classical music, after all. what makes them work is cohesion, where people have a common sense of what is important, where they need to go-- together-- and how to get there. we don't have that anymore

what's different right now is a social and political phenomenon. people used to have confidence in the idea that there was a difference between fact and opinon. that isnt reality anymore, and so incorrect views of the real world get as much credibility as correct views.

i think a big part of the problem is the egalitarian ways that information is now avialable. i mean the net. there are still reliable sources of information about anything on th enet, but there isn't any way of distinguishing them from the BS without extra effort.

how many times has somebody told you someweird factoid that you know isn't true, and when you look it up, you discover that it originated compeltely in some two-bit facebook meme?

(https://i.imgur.com/NzV7WCpl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/wXGNy40l.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/IdfPXWfl.png)

i just made ^^^this shit up. yet if i posted it on facebook, somebody would take it seriously
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 02, 2021, 04:06:00 PM
go figure. i just posted the last two obvious spoofs on an image site that accepts comments and now i am being reamed out online by people who are telling me that i am foolish to hold such silly ideas.


Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Icarus on February 03, 2021, 01:54:40 AM
^ which reinforces my own, DL's, and Billy's observation that a lot of us are not too bright.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on February 03, 2021, 02:25:55 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on February 02, 2021, 03:23:28 PM
the number of dumbasses hasnt changed

(https://www.scienceabc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/stangor-fig09_007.jpg)

half of the people you meet onthe street willalways have below average cognitive ability, on any way you choose to measure it. not a big deal, because intelligence is not what makes societies work well. nazi death camp commandants were conniseurs of classical music, after all. what makes them work is cohesion, where people have a common sense of what is important, where they need to go-- together-- and how to get there. we don't have that anymore

what's different right now is a social and political phenomenon. people used to have confidence in the idea that there was a difference between fact and opinon. that isnt reality anymore, and so incorrect views of the real world get as much credibility as correct views.

i think a big part of the problem is the egalitarian ways that information is now avialable. i mean the net. there are still reliable sources of information about anything on th enet, but there isn't any way of distinguishing them from the BS without extra effort.

how many times has somebody told you someweird factoid that you know isn't true, and when you look it up, you discover that it originated compeltely in some two-bit facebook meme?

(https://i.imgur.com/NzV7WCpl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/wXGNy40l.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/IdfPXWfl.png)

i just made ^^^this shit up. yet if i posted it on facebook, somebody would take it seriously
You mean none of this is true?!?
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 03, 2021, 03:50:24 AM
Quote from: Icarus on February 03, 2021, 01:54:40 AM
^ which reinforces my own, DL's, and Billy's observation that a lot of THE REST OF us are not too bright.

Caps mine. I AM smarter than the average bear.  :P
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Magdalena on February 03, 2021, 04:22:07 AM
Quote from: Randy on February 03, 2021, 02:25:55 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on February 02, 2021, 03:23:28 PM
the number of dumbasses hasnt changed

(https://www.scienceabc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/stangor-fig09_007.jpg)

half of the people you meet onthe street willalways have below average cognitive ability, on any way you choose to measure it. not a big deal, because intelligence is not what makes societies work well. nazi death camp commandants were conniseurs of classical music, after all. what makes them work is cohesion, where people have a common sense of what is important, where they need to go-- together-- and how to get there. we don't have that anymore

what's different right now is a social and political phenomenon. people used to have confidence in the idea that there was a difference between fact and opinon. that isnt reality anymore, and so incorrect views of the real world get as much credibility as correct views.

i think a big part of the problem is the egalitarian ways that information is now avialable. i mean the net. there are still reliable sources of information about anything on th enet, but there isn't any way of distinguishing them from the BS without extra effort.

how many times has somebody told you someweird factoid that you know isn't true, and when you look it up, you discover that it originated compeltely in some two-bit facebook meme?

(https://i.imgur.com/NzV7WCpl.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/wXGNy40l.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/IdfPXWfl.png)

i just made ^^^this shit up. yet if i posted it on facebook, somebody would take it seriously
You mean none of this is true?!?

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Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 05, 2021, 09:35:27 PM
Crazy Town Road. Once you start down the path, like Hotel California, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

Gonna take my horse down Crazy Town Road, gonna ride till I can't no more.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 11, 2021, 06:48:38 PM
well, i've been listening to the impeachment trial for three days now son the radio.

on a purely ojective basis, the prosecution is doing a much better job than the defense. but that doesn't matter, because the republicans in the senate aren't going to risk angering the trumpanistas.

i've been supplying my republican senator with daily assessments of my opinion through emailing him on hos dot-gov website. typicallys i don't hear anything back for a long time, if at all. he's retiring after this term, but was onea of the republicans who voted that the trial was unconstitutional.

watching the republicans debase themselves is pretty depressing, but they've lost their way and see clinging to a demagogue as the only way to cling to power long enough to re-invent themselves.

one of the defense arguments has been that the house brought this impeachment because they are afraid of donald trump winning the next presidential election. a house prosecutor made a very telling disagreement-- he said he wasn't afraid of what would happean if trump won, he was afraid of what would happen if trump lost.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Tank on February 11, 2021, 07:13:50 PM
Given the impeachment fails all the arguments against Trump will have been articulated for future use.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Randy on February 11, 2021, 08:58:19 PM
This will become another event where Congress doesn't do its job.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 12, 2021, 12:26:40 AM
i've mostly lost all respect for them. i used to buy into the argument that my representatives were statesmen and women who had vision for the country and were willing to all pull together for the common good . . . and all that

but since i've actually started watching the sausage being made i've seen senators debase themselves, house represenatives tell constituents they didn' care about their needs, supreme court nominees park their ethics to move ahead in their careers, and a second rate real estate swindler become the president of the united states.

this impeachmenat is a history test, and what these people are doing is writing the chapter about themselves that peop-le will read for hundreds of years.

i don't think it will reflect well on most of them.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 12, 2021, 01:04:51 AM
I propose an Idiocracy.  The Executive Branch is run by the Turd in Chief and the Vice-Turd in Chief.  The Legislative Branch is composed of the House of Eggplants and the House of Toads.  The Judicial Branch is the Supreme Pizza.  The House of Toads eats whatever the House of Eggplants gives them, and the the Executive Branch turns it into turds. These are placed on the Supreme Pizza's docket, which gives long legal names to the various smells emanating from the dish, such as Res Ipsa Loquiturd; Obiter Dicturd; Qui Tam Turd, etc.  This seems to be a superior constitutional arrangement that the shit we now have.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 12, 2021, 01:42:30 AM
how long did it take you to think that out?

have you considered politics?
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Magdalena on February 12, 2021, 05:13:52 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on February 12, 2021, 01:42:30 AM
how long did it take you to think that out?

have you considered politics?

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Don't encourage him.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 12, 2021, 11:25:44 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on February 12, 2021, 01:42:30 AM
how long did it take you to think that out?

have you considered politics?

It came to me by revelation from the Angel Moroni - moron that he is. I'm starting a New Party based on it - we all wear Turd Absorbing Underwear and have special glasses.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Icarus on February 13, 2021, 01:21:55 AM
Methinks that EN is in a bit of a tizzy.  I join him in his anger and frustration and feelings of hopelessness.   I doubt that his elegant wines are responsible.....Actually, if I remember my Latin, which i do not, it is something like; en vino es veritas.  Help[  me out here Recusant.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 13, 2021, 09:36:28 PM
from the office of the ex president. hicis statemeant about being acquittead

I want to first thank my team of dedicated lawyers and others for their tireless work upholding justice and defending truth.

My deepest thanks as well to all of the United States Senators and members of Congress who stood proudly for the Constitution we all revere and for the sacred legal principles at the heart of our country.

Our cherished constitutional Republic was founded on the impartial rule of law, the indispensable safeguard for our liberties, our rights and our freedoms.

It is a sad commentary on our times that one political party in America is given a free pass to denigrate the rule of law, defame law enforcement, cheer mobs, excuse rioters, and transform justice into a tool of political vengeance, and persecute, blacklist, cancel and suppress all people and viewpoints with whom or which they disagree. I always have, and always will, be a champion for the unwavering rule of law, the heroes of law enforcement, and the right of Americans to peacefully and honorably debate the issues of the day without malice and without hate.

This has been yet another phase of the greatest witch hunt in the history of our country. No president has ever gone through anything like it, and it continues because our opponents cannot forget the almost 75 million people, the highest number ever for a sitting president, who voted for us just a few short months ago.

I also want to convey my gratitude to the millions of decent, hardworking, law-abiding, God-and-country loving citizens who have bravely supported these important principles in these very difficult and challenging times. 

Our historic, patriotic and beautiful movement to Make America Great Again has only just begun. In the months ahead I have much to share with you, and I look forward to continuing our incredible journey together to achieve American greatness for all of our people. There has never been anything like it!

We have so much work ahead of us, and soon we will emerge with a vision for a bright, radiant, and limitless American future.

Together there is nothing we cannot accomplish.

We remain one people, one family, and one glorious nation under God, and it's our responsibility to preserve this magnificent inheritance for our children and for generations of Americans to come.

May God bless all of you, and may God forever bless the United States of America.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 13, 2021, 09:38:32 PM
trump is moving on to four more years of lies and chaos.

mcconnell as senate monority leader made a disingenuous speech about how trump was guilty but as a private citizen he could not be convicted

we've seen the comedy. now the tragedy starts.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 13, 2021, 11:41:12 PM
I think a lot of Repubs are just as tired of Trump as we are. Haley and McConnell are signaling that it's time to move one, not to mention the 7 who voted to convict him.  They are trying to marginalize him.  I think.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 14, 2021, 01:00:49 AM
yes, they are rying to marginalize him.

qbut it won't work. they're all too scared to cross him. we saw that when mcconnell issued a speech that would have been perfect to announce his vote to convct, ecept at the end he said trump was going to go free of conseuences.

there aren't any republicans who have the standing to cross trump, and thi acquittal roves it. tomorrow i imagine trump will start his campaign of undercutting joe biden anand arraging primary candidates to smother any republican elected official who has crossed him.

he'll start wi the republicans in the house who voted to impeach, and he'll wrap in the seven senators who vo5ted to convict, as well as peopl elike mcconnell who voted to acquit but didn't dkiss his ass on the way.

trump has been given two lessons now regarding his impunity. i predict that he will dangle a 2024 presidential run, just to prevent any republicans from gaining strength enough to challenge him over the next four years. it will be bbad for the republican party, but it will cemementhis hold on the apparatus.

but i've been wrong before.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 14, 2021, 02:08:10 AM
I'm not the least bit surprised, but a lot disgusted. The defense's claims that only a private citizen can to be censured on 1st amendment grounds now applies to the chump, since he is again a private citizen, right up until they decide that as an ex-president he's still immune from prosecution. Can't someone just shove a Big Mag down his throat, already?
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 14, 2021, 02:21:47 AM
ive been writing my republican senator every day about this from th estart, but i haven't heard anything back from him. typically i don't hear and then after a month i get a thank you form letter.

he was rob portman, the so-called moderate, who was undecided.

i am atually astonished that collins and murkowski voted to convict. it was nice to see, but too late for them. they ve both been s hand-wringers along with jeff flake, peeople  who bleat outrage and then go along in the end.

at least collins didn't say that "she thinks he's learned his lesson now. . . " that didn't fly the last time and doesn' apply here either
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: Tom62 on February 14, 2021, 10:44:03 AM
No surprises here. Just another waste of time.
Title: Re: icmpeachment of donald john trump
Post by: billy rubin on February 14, 2021, 01:32:55 PM
i dont thinkitwas a waste of time.

we re all food for the worms in the end, but moral decisions are made because of what we are, not because of what someone else is, as i see it