Happy Atheist Forum

General => Current Events => Topic started by: Ecurb Noselrub on December 31, 2020, 01:21:49 AM

Title: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on December 31, 2020, 01:21:49 AM
I'm getting the Pfizer vaccine on Jan 2 at my place of employment, and the second shot on Jan 23.  I'll let you know how it feels.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Dark Lightning on December 31, 2020, 01:25:24 AM
Good for you! I'm somewhere down the list. The delivery rate needs a 10-fold increase for the vaccine to be effective in a meaningful timeframe, at least in the US. I've seen where the infrastructure isn't really there for a timely distribution of the vaccine.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on December 31, 2020, 08:29:47 AM
 :frolic: :frolic: :frolic:

Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on December 31, 2020, 01:21:49 AM
I'm getting the Pfizer vaccine on Jan 2 at my place of employment, and the second shot on Jan 23.  I'll let you know how it feels.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Randy on January 01, 2021, 06:22:27 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on December 31, 2020, 01:21:49 AM
I'm getting the Pfizer vaccine on Jan 2 at my place of employment, and the second shot on Jan 23.  I'll let you know how it feels.
Wonderful news, Bruce! I am not on anyone's list at the moment but will probably be by spring considering my frailty.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on February 17, 2021, 04:23:36 PM
Myself and my wife should both be getting our first jab this week :)
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: No one on February 18, 2021, 12:51:43 AM
I drink bleach, so, I'm good.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 18, 2021, 02:48:35 AM
Quote from: No one on February 18, 2021, 12:51:43 AM
I drink bleach, so, I'm dead.

Fixed that for you.  :D
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Icarus on February 18, 2021, 05:52:31 AM
I got my second jab on the 4th of Feb.  I still wear my mask and practice social distancing.   i am one of the lucky ones.

I hope all my fellow HAFers will be able to get their vax soon.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tom62 on February 18, 2021, 06:39:25 AM
No idea when it will be my turn. Probably around summer time.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on February 18, 2021, 10:13:31 AM
Wife and I are now booked in for 2pm on Friday the 19th Feb.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on February 18, 2021, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 18, 2021, 10:13:31 AM
Wife and I are now booked in for 2pm on Friday the 19th Feb.

Great!  All I felt was a sore arm on the first one and a bit sore and sluggish all over on the second one, but it didn't last long.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 18, 2021, 11:29:12 PM
Got my first two weeks ago today, next shot one week from today. Just a little sore from the first shot, so I covered the pain by pumping some iron. Sorry if this is a repeat. I thought I had already posted, but it could have been elsewhere.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on February 19, 2021, 02:55:20 PM
Well that's me and the wife done. We got the Pfizer version.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on February 19, 2021, 03:13:46 PM
are you autistic yet?
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on February 19, 2021, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on February 19, 2021, 03:13:46 PM
are you autistic yet?

What do you mean 'Yet'?
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Randy on February 20, 2021, 01:41:08 AM
I've been asked by various people in the medical field if I plan to take it when the time comes. I'm going to be one on the higher list due to my condition. I will of course. But I'll pass for someone that is more needy. I don't want that dreaded virus as it's potentially deadly and seems like a gruesome way to die.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Dark Lightning on February 20, 2021, 03:35:40 AM
Quote from: Randy on February 20, 2021, 01:41:08 AM
I've been asked by various people in the medical field if I plan to take it when the time comes. I'm going to be one on the higher list due to my condition. I will of course. But I'll pass for someone that is more needy. I don't want that dreaded virus as it's potentially deadly and seems like a gruesome way to die.

My MiL is currently in hospice care. Soon to be 94 and basically a vegetable. :'( She got her first dose 15 days ago. Care homes have gotten a bad reputation for the elderly in their care dying from Covid. My wife and I are getting the vaccination only because there are going to be some injections left over. I'm not sure what it all means, in the long run.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on March 04, 2021, 09:43:12 PM
Finally, something good comes out of Texas:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/us/corpus-christi-firefighter-vaccine-trnd/index.html

Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on March 04, 2021, 10:02:12 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on March 04, 2021, 09:43:12 PM
Finally, something good comes out of Texas:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/04/us/corpus-christi-firefighter-vaccine-trnd/index.html

Good work.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Bluenose on March 05, 2021, 03:46:39 AM
Well Italy has blocked the export of around 250,000 doses of the Astra/Zenicca vaccine to Australia supposedly due to new EU regulations.  This will not do anything for relations between EU and non-EU countries in the log term.  Neither will it really make any difference to Australia's vaccination programme as we are already rolling out the Pfizer vaccine and CSL has already started production of the Astra/Zennica vaccine which should be available by the end of the month at a rate of around 1,000,000 doses per week.  Australia's population is about 25 million and full vaccination (of all who want it) is expected to be achieved by the end of October.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on March 05, 2021, 08:44:06 AM
Quote from: Bluenose on March 05, 2021, 03:46:39 AM
Well Italy has blocked the export of around 250,000 doses of the Astra/Zenicca vaccine to Australia supposedly due to new EU regulations.  This will not do anything for relations between EU and non-EU countries in the log term.  Neither will it really make any difference to Australia's vaccination programme as we are already rolling out the Pfizer vaccine and CSL has already started production of the Astra/Zennica vaccine which should be available by the end of the month at a rate of around 1,000,000 doses per week.  Australia's population is about 25 million and full vaccination (of all who want it) is expected to be achieved by the end of October.

I was an ardent 'remainer' to stay in the EU. To honest now fuk'um.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tom62 on March 05, 2021, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: Bluenose on March 05, 2021, 03:46:39 AM
Well Italy has blocked the export of around 250,000 doses of the Astra/Zenicca vaccine to Australia supposedly due to new EU regulations.  This will not do anything for relations between EU and non-EU countries in the log term.  Neither will it really make any difference to Australia's vaccination programme as we are already rolling out the Pfizer vaccine and CSL has already started production of the Astra/Zennica vaccine which should be available by the end of the month at a rate of around 1,000,000 doses per week.  Australia's population is about 25 million and full vaccination (of all who want it) is expected to be achieved by the end of October.

I'm glad that they stopped the export

Quote from: Washington PostItaly has blocked the export to Australia of 250,000 AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine doses, amid a dispute with the drug manufacturer over delivery shortfalls inside the European Union. The decision to block the doses was because of "the lingering shortage of vaccines in the E.U. and in Italy, and the delays in the supply of AstraZeneca vaccines to the E.U. and Italy," among other reasons.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Bad Penny II on March 05, 2021, 01:29:35 PM
Quote from: Tom62 on March 05, 2021, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: Bluenose on March 05, 2021, 03:46:39 AM
Well Italy has blocked the export of around 250,000 doses of the Astra/Zenicca vaccine to Australia supposedly due to new EU regulations.  This will not do anything for relations between EU and non-EU countries in the log term.  Neither will it really make any difference to Australia's vaccination programme as we are already rolling out the Pfizer vaccine and CSL has already started production of the Astra/Zennica vaccine which should be available by the end of the month at a rate of around 1,000,000 doses per week.  Australia's population is about 25 million and full vaccination (of all who want it) is expected to be achieved by the end of October.

I'm glad that they stopped the export

Quote from: Washington PostItaly has blocked the export to Australia of 250,000 AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine doses, amid a dispute with the drug manufacturer over delivery shortfalls inside the European Union. The decision to block the doses was because of "the lingering shortage of vaccines in the E.U. and in Italy, and the delays in the supply of AstraZeneca vaccines to the E.U. and Italy," among other reasons.

That's just wrong, what's wrong with your spin people?

This is how it should have been done, you tell 'em green.

Italy has blocked the export to Australia of 250,000 AstraZeneca coronavirus vaccine doses as Australia is selfishly hoarding vaccines.
Italy will donate 250 doses of vaccine to the people of Kiribati who have suffered due to the hoarding of such greedy countries.

Yes, that is much better, you get to act in your own self interest while pretending to be virtuous.
Such a dire lack of spin, it makes me worry for the future of Europe.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Randy on April 09, 2021, 02:40:33 PM
I finally got vaccinated yesterday because I'm in a high risk category. My next vaccination will be in three weeks. I hear that is the one that makes one feel like they've got the flu for a day and then get better. Supposedly that is how one can tell it's working,
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on April 09, 2021, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: Randy on April 09, 2021, 02:40:33 PM
I finally got vaccinated yesterday because I'm in a high risk category. My next vaccination will be in three weeks. I hear that is the one that makes one feel like they've got the flu for a day and then get better. Supposedly that is how one can tell it's working,

Good news.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on April 09, 2021, 08:10:26 PM
got my second one a week ago today.  two days of aching joints at both ends of the clavicle, of all places.


never had a reaction before to any vaccine beyond the usual stiffness and swelling from cholera cultures. i dont remember any reaction to typhoid or yellow fever.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Randy on April 10, 2021, 01:20:46 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on April 09, 2021, 08:10:26 PM
got my second one a week ago today.  two days of aching joints at both ends of the clavicle, of all places.


never had a reaction before to any vaccine beyond the usual stiffness and swelling from cholera cultures. i dont remember any reaction to typhoid or yellow fever.
I don't recall having a reaction to any vaccinations before although I don't remember most of them anymore. This one just hurt my arm for about two days and then quit. I hear the second one makes a person feel awful for a day.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Magdalena on April 10, 2021, 05:09:05 AM
I got my 1st shot today. For three hours now, I haven't stopped saying, "hmn! fuck! mother fucker! mother fuckers! fuck Trump!"

It's an uncomfortable pain.  :(
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on April 10, 2021, 08:22:08 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 10, 2021, 05:09:05 AM
I got my 1st shot today. For three hours now, I haven't stopped saying, "hmn! fuck! mother fucker! mother fuckers! fuck Trump!"

It's an uncomfortable pain.  :(

There is comfortable pain? Who knew!
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Dark Lightning on April 10, 2021, 02:25:45 PM
You're supposed to get autism, not Tourette's!  ;D
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on April 10, 2021, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 10, 2021, 08:22:08 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 10, 2021, 05:09:05 AM
I got my 1st shot today. For three hours now, I haven't stopped saying, "hmn! fuck! mother fucker! mother fuckers! fuck Trump!"

It's an uncomfortable pain.  :(

There is comfortable pain? Who knew!

bee stings.

once youve been stung enough timez you dont process it as pain anymore. not just me. ive been told this by other beekeepers
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Randy on April 10, 2021, 10:10:25 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 10, 2021, 05:09:05 AM
I got my 1st shot today. For three hours now, I haven't stopped saying, "hmn! fuck! mother fucker! mother fuckers! fuck Trump!"

It's an uncomfortable pain.  :(
I've been on prescription strength pain relievers for the past couple of weeks, They may have dulled the pain from the shot.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: xSilverPhinx on April 10, 2021, 10:12:44 PM
Quote from: Dark Lightning on April 10, 2021, 02:25:45 PM
You're supposed to get autism, not Tourette's!  ;D

Heheh  ;D

In Brazil some people believe it will turn you into an alligator. Really.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Magdalena on April 11, 2021, 03:20:59 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on April 10, 2021, 03:18:41 PM
Quote from: Tank on April 10, 2021, 08:22:08 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 10, 2021, 05:09:05 AM
I got my 1st shot today. For three hours now, I haven't stopped saying, "hmn! fuck! mother fucker! mother fuckers! fuck Trump!"

It's an uncomfortable pain.  :(

There is comfortable pain? Who knew!

bee stings.

once youve been stung enough timez you dont process it as pain anymore. not just me. ive been told this by other beekeepers

(https://media1.giphy.com/media/5UB7rGI71YHBsuRQdi/giphy.gif)
I'm sure beekeepers use the same vocabulary while experiencing that, "uncomfortable pain."
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Magdalena on April 11, 2021, 03:25:07 AM
Quote from: Randy on April 10, 2021, 10:10:25 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 10, 2021, 05:09:05 AM
I got my 1st shot today. For three hours now, I haven't stopped saying, "hmn! fuck! mother fucker! mother fuckers! fuck Trump!"

It's an uncomfortable pain.  :(
I've been on prescription strength pain relievers for the past couple of weeks, They may have dulled the pain from the shot.
You mentioned, percocet.
I think that one helped you.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on April 12, 2021, 04:27:52 PM
pain is weird. for yearz i have been unable to decide whether bee stings hurt. i can feel the stimulation, and when i get stung a lot  , like 40 or 50 timez at once, that certainly hurts. but one or two? i dont know anymore.

depends on where you get stung too. ive been stung three timez on the end of my tallywhacker. that gets your attentio n for sure. or inside  your ear
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Magdalena on April 13, 2021, 04:48:13 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on April 12, 2021, 04:27:52 PM
pain is weird. for yearz i have been unable to decide whether bee stings hurt. i can feel the stimulation, and when i get stung a lot  , like 40 or 50 timez at once, that certainly hurts. but one or two? i dont know anymore.

depends on where you get stung too. ive been stung three timez on the end of my tallywhacker. that gets your attentio n for sure. or inside  your ear

"stimulation"
Would that be... Numbness, burning, swelling/heavyness, and a heartbeat sensation, while pins and needles poke you, all at the same time and  in the exact same spot...? For a long time.

That's not pain anymore, that's
"stimulation."

:grin:

I was stung so many times when I was a kid, I lost count, and I can't remember where on my body either, it was so many times!

Ah..fun times.

Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on April 13, 2021, 06:09:23 PM
i dunno

its a local bright pain, i guezz. but it feels as much like an ice cube or being prezsed by the end of a pencil

yellow jacket and hornet stings hurt. bee stings, maybe not
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Magdalena on April 13, 2021, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on April 13, 2021, 06:09:23 PM
i dunno

its a local bright pain, i guezz. but it feels as much like an ice cube or being prezsed by the end of a pencil

yellow jacket and hornet stings hurt. bee stings, maybe not

Yes! It feels like an ice cube that numbs and burns.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Randy on April 14, 2021, 04:19:11 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 11, 2021, 03:25:07 AM
Quote from: Randy on April 10, 2021, 10:10:25 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on April 10, 2021, 05:09:05 AM
I got my 1st shot today. For three hours now, I haven't stopped saying, "hmn! fuck! mother fucker! mother fuckers! fuck Trump!"

It's an uncomfortable pain.  :(
I've been on prescription strength pain relievers for the past couple of weeks, They may have dulled the pain from the shot.
You mentioned, percocet.
I think that one helped you.
Yes, that was the one that relieved the pain I was getting for weeks in my hip. It was excruciating. Then it just suddenly stopped. I've still got plenty because when I fell a couple of weeks ago it was backward and my head hit the floor. I had a constant headache that wouldn't react to over the counter medicines. I'm loaded with pain pills of different strengths and elixirs. I've got morphine on hand but the side effects to me were worse than the pain in the hip. I don't recall if the pain was numbed though.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 10, 2021, 12:38:10 AM
Has anyone had the AstraZeneca vaccine? My mother turned 60 last week and so was eligible for vaccination, but this was the only available vaccine. She was vaccinated yesterday and today had a rather extreme reaction -- high fever, headache and generalised pain all over -- which has lasted all day today and will probably continue tomorrow.

Has anyone else been in a similar situation?

I'm relieved though that she's having a reaction because that means she was given an actual vaccine dose and not something else like saline or the vaccine for the flu. There have been numerous cases in Brazil of such fraud, where the nurse practitioners vaccinating people are 'hiding' doses to later sell at high prices.     
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Recusant on May 10, 2021, 07:00:52 AM
All those symptoms are listed as possible reactions to Vaxzevria (the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID vaccine), and they're pretty common (1/3 to 1/2+, according to this site (https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-what-to-know-about-side-effects#Common-side-effects)). I agree that they're a reassuring indication that she got the genuine article.  :maskwink:
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Davin on May 10, 2021, 03:44:19 PM
I got the Pfizer vaccine, it was a fairly mild response and the second shot was much lighter than the first.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Randy on May 11, 2021, 04:45:32 AM
I meant to tell everyone that I got the second half the vaccination. I've not had a single adverse reaction, not even a sore arm where they injected it.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on May 11, 2021, 05:19:28 PM
excellent

my firdt moderna was unnoticable

then i had mild flu symptoms from the second
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Icarus on May 12, 2021, 04:22:00 AM
Me too, my first shot of Moderna caused no distress at all.  The second one did cause some mild distress.  Flu like symtoms that lasted only a day or so.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on May 12, 2021, 10:41:41 AM
it took me most of the day to realuze that i was having a reaction. im creaky anyway so i thought the joint  pain and fatigue was just more of the usual.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on May 17, 2021, 08:14:18 AM
Both jabs done and dusted. Got Pfizer so now have the Apple connectivity and 5G.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on May 17, 2021, 09:09:34 PM
So, does it look like the UK will completely open on June 21?  I hope so, since I'm scheduled to come there on July 3.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on May 17, 2021, 09:25:04 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on May 17, 2021, 09:09:34 PM
So, does it look like the UK will completely open on June 21?  I hope so, since I'm scheduled to come there on July 3.

I really couldn't say. The reason being there has been an outbreak of an Indian variant. The government isn't doing any back peddling yet but they are telling us there may be a bike somewhere in the future. It should be Ok. I hope.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: xSilverPhinx on May 26, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
Got my first Pfizer shot today. :grin: Spent all morning waiting in line, one that went round the block, but it was worth it. There was a brief moment of unexpected amusement when an old lady holding an even older lady's arm was yelling at another old lady to slow down.

"NEUSA! SLOW DOWN! WAIT FOR ME TO HELP YOU GET DOWN THE STEPS! NEUUUUUUSSAAAAAAAAAAA!"

But Neusa was not heeding any of it. :popcorn:
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Anne D. on May 27, 2021, 03:23:32 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 26, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
Got my first Pfizer shot today. :grin: Spent all morning waiting in line, one that went round the block, but it was worth it. There was a brief moment of unexpected amusement when an old lady holding an even older lady's arm was yelling at another old lady to slow down.

"NEUSA! SLOW DOWN! WAIT FOR ME TO HELP YOU GET DOWN THE STEPS! NEUUUUUUSSAAAAAAAAAAA!"

But Neusa was not heeding any of it. :popcorn:

Ha! Good for Neusa.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Magdalena on May 27, 2021, 03:27:35 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on May 26, 2021, 09:38:28 PM
Got my first Pfizer shot today. :grin: Spent all morning waiting in line, one that went round the block, but it was worth it. There was a brief moment of unexpected amusement when an old lady holding an even older lady's arm was yelling at another old lady to slow down.

"NEUSA! SLOW DOWN! WAIT FOR ME TO HELP YOU GET DOWN THE STEPS! NEUUUUUUSSAAAAAAAAAAA!"

But Neusa was not heeding any of it. :popcorn:
:lol:
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Anne D. on May 27, 2021, 03:36:30 AM
Quote from: Tank on May 17, 2021, 08:14:18 AM
Both jabs done and dusted. Got Pfizer so now have the Apple connectivity and 5G.

Got the Pfizer too, but my Gates microchip must not have kicked in yet.

About a week and a half ago I listened to a really depressing public radio story about a small-town Midwestern doctor who is spending inordinate amounts of time kindly and not at all condescendingly talking through the concerns of his patients who truly do believe the microchip conspiracy theory and all manner of other bullshit. He's spending about 45 minutes apiece with each of these folks, not getting compensation beyond that for a shorter regular office visit. One elderly couple allowed the reporter to sit in on the convo. Nice but delusional people. After the doctor patiently explained in the most nonpatronizing way possible that their fears and understandings were unfounded--for nearly an hour--they thanked him, said they had a lot to think about, and then later told the reporter they'd decided not to get vaccinated. What can you do with folks like that? That doctor is a fucking saint.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Icarus on May 27, 2021, 06:47:47 AM
Doctors everywhere must be annoyed, frustrated, disgusted, or worse, by people who refuse the vaccine.  The holdouts use all manner of beliefs that they hold dear. Politics, conspiracies, lethal side effects, and other bullshit reasons to refuse.

It is interesting to note that the less educated and lower economic status  people are predominantly anti vax. These same people or at least most of them are Trump supporters. The poorest county in Florida is Union County up in the panhandle area. It is a hardscrabble farming area with the lowest high school graduation rate in the state. They are 85% hard core republicans and likely to be observant Baptists.  Fewer than 10% of them have been vaccinated. No chance in hell that more of them will accept the vax.  Ignorance may very well be the cause of many of their funerals.

Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on June 03, 2021, 11:49:13 AM
darwin would have to agree
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Bad Penny II on June 03, 2021, 02:23:16 PM
I've booked in for an Astra jab nest Tuesday.
It might of taken an hour seeking out a time/venue to suit.

I'm still working on my campaign to encourage vaccine uptake.

I already had Jabbie Jaberoo, a very tall black and white stalk with bandoleers full of syringes.
Green suggested we needed a villain so... Covid Crow
So we have a scene, think Monk the scream, rotate the screaming chap horizontal, imagine a crow, Covid the Crow, maybe toying with an eyeball.
Save him Jabbie, save him cries the archetypical dutiful daughter
Sorry, it's too late, if not shunned two weeks ago I could have saved him
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Bad Penny II on June 03, 2021, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on June 03, 2021, 11:49:13 AM
darwin would have to agree

With what would Darwin have to agree?
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on June 03, 2021, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on June 03, 2021, 02:56:57 PM
With what would Darwin have to agree?

with icarus

Quote from: Icarus on May 27, 2021, 06:47:47 AM

Ignorance may very well be the cause of many of their funerals.


i do stuff that people think is dangerous. but i take ordinary precautions. when i race ancient motorcycles, i wear full cowhide leathers, boots, gloves,  and a state of the art fibrglas helmet because i am not willfully ignorant of the risks. i use common sense. well, sort of.

(https://i.imgur.com/BPgKzIZl.png)

willfully ignorant people will weed themselves out of the gene pool, to the extent that their willfullness is heritable, and constitutes a negative selection pressure. if they're all past breeding age, it won't matter. but stupidly ignorant people who fail to reproduce will do the whole gene pool a favor.

at this stage of the pandemic, to not understand the advantages of vaccination is a willful refusal to understand, not a lack of information.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: hermes2015 on June 04, 2021, 05:28:01 AM
I agree with that. Also, that is a great photo and you are looking good.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Bad Penny II on June 04, 2021, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: billy rubin on June 03, 2021, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on June 03, 2021, 02:56:57 PM
With what would Darwin have to agree?

with icarus

Quote from: Icarus on May 27, 2021, 06:47:47 AM

Ignorance may very well be the cause of many of their funerals.


i do stuff that people think is dangerous. but i take ordinary precautions. when i race ancient motorcycles, i wear full cowhide leathers, boots, gloves,  and a state of the art fibrglas helmet because i am not willfully ignorant of the risks. i use common sense. well, sort of.


willfully ignorant people will weed themselves out of the gene pool, to the extent that their willfullness is heritable, and constitutes a negative selection pressure. if they're all past breeding age, it won't matter. but stupidly ignorant people who fail to reproduce will do the whole gene pool a favor.

at this stage of the pandemic, to not understand the advantages of vaccination is a willful refusal to understand, not a lack of information.


I don't think COVID vaccination is going to make much difference to the rate of "stupidly ignorant people" reproducing, they do tend to be better at reproducing than more educated people.  Humans living past breeding age probably does benefit gene transmission.  Mothers and grandmothers (human/primate/other) assist with offspring.  Maybe even old blokes are of some use.  :-\

I'm not sure Darwin would agree, human society isn't really the evolutionary equivalent of a free market.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on June 04, 2021, 02:08:18 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on June 04, 2021, 05:28:01 AM
I agree with that. Also, that is a great photo and you are looking good.


leathers make everybody look like a superhero. when i take em off i melt back into my normal sort of muddle.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on June 04, 2021, 02:30:05 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on June 04, 2021, 10:10:35 AM
I'm not sure Darwin would agree, human society isn't really the evolutionary equivalent of a free market.

maybe not, in the short term. risk taking is messy. theressome work thats been done that shows that human emigration is associated with a specific set of alleles. now i cant find it. the meaning is that wanderers have something genetic in common that they dont share with stay at homers. is that risk taking gene adaptive? i think so, in that the genes havespread worldwide maybe covid deniers dont have it. but is it a cost?

it may just be intelligence. but as you say, maybeits swamped out by stupider people reproducing more.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tom62 on June 05, 2021, 04:35:49 AM
If everything goes well, I should get my first jab somewhere in summer. Looking at how things are disorganised over here, my expectation is that October or November is more likely.

People are so fed up with the incompetence of the politicians, that the ruling political parties (CDU and SPD) will lose heavily in the next elections.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2021, 05:55:28 PM
We are approaching one billion vaccinations worldwide. That would be very impressive if we hadn't needed about 10 billion. :(
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on July 21, 2021, 06:29:38 PM
america is starting to slip backwards.

i frankly dont mind that the deniers are dying, althkugh im sorry for their normal kids.

but theyre reservoirs for variants, so we re in for a bumpy ride
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on July 21, 2021, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: billy rubin on July 21, 2021, 06:29:38 PM
america is starting to slip backwards.

i frankly dont mind that the deniers are dying, althkugh im sorry for their normal kids.

but theyre reservoirs for variants, so we re in for a bumpy ride

It's not over yet, far from it.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: hermes2015 on July 22, 2021, 04:34:54 AM
The fact that I've had both Pfizer shots has made absolutely no difference to my pattern of behaviour when I go out.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Icarus on July 23, 2021, 04:13:16 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on July 22, 2021, 04:34:54 AM
The fact that I've had both Pfizer shots has made absolutely no difference to my pattern of behaviour when I go out.

Nor mine.  I have had both Moderna shots but I still practice masking and social distancing.  I do so as a common courtesy to other sane people, and partly for, hopefully, my own protection.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: hermes2015 on July 23, 2021, 04:16:57 AM
Quote from: Icarus on July 23, 2021, 04:13:16 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on July 22, 2021, 04:34:54 AM
The fact that I've had both Pfizer shots has made absolutely no difference to my pattern of behaviour when I go out.

Nor mine.  I have had both Moderna shots but I still practice masking and social distancing.  I do so as a common courtesy to other sane people, and partly for, hopefully, my own protection.

:thumbsup:
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tom62 on July 23, 2021, 09:29:38 AM
Next Wednesday, I'll have my second shot.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on July 23, 2021, 09:48:34 AM
Quote from: Icarus on July 23, 2021, 04:13:16 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on July 22, 2021, 04:34:54 AM
The fact that I've had both Pfizer shots has made absolutely no difference to my pattern of behaviour when I go out.

Nor mine.  I have had both Moderna shots but I still practice masking and social distancing.  I do so as a common courtesy to other sane people, and partly for, hopefully, my own protection.

There are now no Covid restrictions in England. Cases are growing but hospitalisations and deaths are way down on what they were when there were similar numbers of cases before mass vaccinations.

But our government, as per usual, has fucked up. If you test positive people who have been in close contact with you have to isolate, whether or not they test positive. This has resulted in loads of people having to isolate and the food delivery system is collapsing! Oh joy! The solution is that double jabbed people don't have to isolate if they have been in close contact with an infected individual. But only in some key companies and organisations! SNAFU.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Icarus on July 24, 2021, 06:00:04 AM
I claim that my Florida government is more fucked up than Tank's Brit government.  We are a very populous state, like 21 million, and we have a governor who has his nose up Trumps ass.  Result is that Florida is among the three states with the most serious Covid outbreaks.

I agree that we have a huge part of our citizenry who are dumb ass hillbillies who shun the vax.  In general we are a modern state with much to recommend. Somehow we are overwhelmed with willful stupidity, which includes our majority statehouse Republican politicians.

If it was not some damned cold there, I would move to Vermont, maybe  even become a Bernie sanders booster.( maybe not) 

Texas and Missouri are running a close second to our Sunshine State stupidity.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tom62 on July 24, 2021, 09:48:31 PM
Don't worry, there are loads of countries that don't have their Covid acts together. Here in Germany they've loosened up the lockdown a bit, because the general elections are coming up soon. The leading Christian Democratic (CDU) and Socialist Democratic (SPD) parties will nevertheless receive a beating, because they acted completely clueless, irresponsible and irrational. The CDU party was also involved in several Covid corruption scandals, so I hope that they'll lose the elections. My hopes are up for the liberal party (FDP), because they seem to have more competent politicians.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Bad Penny II on July 27, 2021, 02:45:52 PM
QuoteJune 2020, the population of New South Wales was over 8.1 million,[1] making it Australia's most populous state. Just under two-thirds of the state's population, 5.3 million, live in the Greater Sydney area.

NSW had been doing well, a diseased someone would occasionally slip out of the hotel quarantine system but contact trackers would be on to it.  The story was we had excellent trackers, we probably do. 

The other states were crap, they'd shut down at the whiff of disease, we relied on our trackers and mocked.  The Aus prime minister fkn bastard agreed.

So Delta arrives, state premiere doesn't rush into lockdown, probably goaded by bastard prime minister.  All the proper experts say go fast, go hard, we didn't.
State premiere was saying "this is the scariest time"when there were a couple of cases but lingered.

Other states had a case or two, like we did but cracked down and now are pestilence free.

The Feds, the prime minister, hasn't done well acquiring vaccine, he doesn't like to dwell on that.  He's been converted from anti shut down to pro shutdown, probably to divert from his failure.

I think Greater Sydney is up to about 130 new cases a day, it will be interesting to see how it goes.  I'm a few hundred km north of Sydney, sharks are still more successful than Covid around here. I had my first Astra Z shot mid June, 2nd was booked for 12 weeks hence, end of August.  Maybe I'll try to get it sooner if things get interesting.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on July 28, 2021, 02:50:44 PM
My organization, a health care organization employing over 40,000 people, has instituted a mandated vaccination requirement for all employees by Oct. 1.  There are some exemptions, but they will be scrutinized carefully.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Icarus on July 28, 2021, 08:05:32 PM
Ecurb,Your company policy is brave, responsible, and fiscally dangerous. What with all those employees, there will be many of them who will try to take the firm to court. Violating their right to freedom and all that simple minded bullshit. Worse! You are in Texas where there are so many Texans with an attitude.   But you are fully aware of all that. Right?

What is the staunch GOP governor whatizname....Abbot?... going to do about this brazen violation of freedom to be stupid?

Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on July 29, 2021, 03:20:13 AM
We are getting a lot of negative pushback, but I don't think Abbott is going to intervene.  We are not the first system in Texas to do this, and he didn't intervene there.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Bad Penny II on August 10, 2021, 12:49:36 PM
Greater Sydney area daily new Covid cases are close to doubling each week, 250 last weekend probably 500 next.  I predict it will get to 8 billion in January and then it'll really take off. 
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: No one on August 10, 2021, 09:56:31 PM
America should just make internment camps for the unvaccinated. Provide them with zero medical, and just let the fucking die! And mock them as they do so.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: billy rubin on August 10, 2021, 11:26:56 PM
the delta variant is predicted to infect 100 percent of the unvaccinated withinbthe next few months

100 percent.

there e would be no time for camps.  theyre already starting to drop in clumps, i think
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: jumbojak on August 11, 2021, 01:46:52 AM
Quote from: No one on August 10, 2021, 09:56:31 PM
America should just make internment camps for the unvaccinated. Provide them with zero medical, and just let the fucking die! And mock them as they do so.

Exactly. I think that everyone should be forced to take every medication before it's actually approved. You shouldn't be able to make your own medical decisions. Ever. For any reason.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: No one on August 11, 2021, 02:47:49 AM
Glad you see it my way!
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on October 02, 2021, 11:56:02 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 28, 2021, 02:50:44 PM
My organization, a health care organization employing over 40,000 people, has instituted a mandated vaccination requirement for all employees by Oct. 1.  There are some exemptions, but they will be scrutinized carefully.

How did it work out?
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on October 02, 2021, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: Tank on October 02, 2021, 11:56:02 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 28, 2021, 02:50:44 PM
My organization, a health care organization employing over 40,000 people, has instituted a mandated vaccination requirement for all employees by Oct. 1.  There are some exemptions, but they will be scrutinized carefully.

How did it work out?

Well.  Well over 95% complied, a few had exemptions, and a few left. We are a vaccinated company.   I now have my third, and I just tested negative. Boarding my flight for London in a few hours.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Dark Lightning on October 02, 2021, 04:06:36 PM
That's good news! And bon voyage!
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Tank on October 02, 2021, 09:25:33 PM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on October 02, 2021, 02:39:08 PM
Quote from: Tank on October 02, 2021, 11:56:02 AM
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on July 28, 2021, 02:50:44 PM
My organization, a health care organization employing over 40,000 people, has instituted a mandated vaccination requirement for all employees by Oct. 1.  There are some exemptions, but they will be scrutinized carefully.

How did it work out?

Well.  Well over 95% complied, a few had exemptions, and a few left. We are a vaccinated company.   I now have my third, and I just tested negative. Boarding my flight for London in a few hours.

That's all good news.
Title: Re: Covid Vaccine
Post by: Dark Lightning on November 01, 2021, 03:20:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/ZvztU5Q.png)

(https://i.imgur.com/fWtFtfx.png)