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Title: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
Holy crap you guys, I love Christmas. I love that it is an excuse for me to bake excessive amounts of pastries and feed them to people. I love hanging out with family. I love time off from school. I love the decorations and the gift-giving and the candy canes and even all those hokey hooray-for-Jeebus Christmas carols. The first day after Thanksgiving, I turn into an insufferable whirlwind of holiday cheer. I can completely understand why so many people loathe the season, especially if they have to deal with family drama or happen to work in retail, but my own glee is incurable. And possibly hypocritical. But I don't care because eggnog.

Soooo, fellow atheists, I am pretty curious:

1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter Decemberish (sorry about that, southern Hemisphere) holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?
2. If you don't... how do you maintain your sanity during the season? (Not a diss. Honest question.)
3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?
4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 22, 2011, 05:44:25 AM
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
But I don't care because eggnog.

Soooo, fellow atheists, I am pretty curious:

1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?
2. If you don't... how do you maintain your sanity during the season? (Not a diss. Honest question.)
3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?
4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

Ditto for me re: eggnog.  I love the stuff, and I may be the only person alive who loves fruitcake. 

I can't be said to celebrate any holiday in any meaningful way, but I do go along with the feasting and gift-giving.  As for being an atheist among Xtians, that's never been any real problem with my family (at least the ones I'm on speaking terms with) -- they're fairly religious but not nuts.  I think the Xtians in this country have already pretty much completely secularized Xmas, with their insistance on making it a public holiday which made cheapening it inevitable.  However, if I could have my evil way and convince people to observe their particular religious holidays quietly and privately, I would still promote a purely secular, all-inclusive party time called Winterfest (after the old TV show Beauty and the Beast -- I cannot be swayed by alternate, cooler, celebrations).
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Stevil on November 22, 2011, 05:44:37 AM
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?
2. If you don't... how do you maintain your sanity during the season? (Not a diss. Honest question.)
3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?
4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?
1. Yeah, get together with family. BTW Christmas is a Summer holiday, BBQs and lots of Beach
2. I hate shopping around Christmas time, it is too busy, then on Christmas day and day after everything is shut, it is quite boring actually
3. I don't consider it to be a religious holiday, more of a tradition.
4. With a multicultural society I hope oneday that people will get to choose the holiday and leave they take. Some people prefer Chinese New Year or Diwali or Ramadan etc
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:53:36 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 22, 2011, 05:44:25 AM

I've actually never tried fruitcake. Whether or not you are the only person alive who likes it remains undetermined.
Winterfest sounds cool. Kinda like Oktoberfest. :P

Quote from: Stevil on November 22, 2011, 05:44:37 AM
BTW Christmas is a Summer holiday, BBQs and lots of Beach

...Man, okay, I blame the fact that I went through the US public schools for this. Sorry, southern hemisphere, I suck. *scampers off to fix first post*
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Tank on November 22, 2011, 07:12:01 AM
I like the Mithras celebrations. Particularly as I now have a 1yo grandson to spoil  ;D
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Fi on November 22, 2011, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: Tank on November 22, 2011, 07:12:01 AM
I like the Mithras celebrations. Particularly as I now have a 1yo grandson to spoil  ;D
D'awwwww. Spoil 'em good!

(Mithras celebrations! I see what you did there.)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Asmodean on November 22, 2011, 08:43:29 AM
Christmas time, eh..? In about a month, maybe.

Truth to tell, I am completely indifferent to Christmas celebrations with a minor dislike for Christmas holidays (Unless of course I have a pile of new console games to occupy myself with)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Pharaoh Cat on November 22, 2011, 10:24:37 AM
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
But I don't care because eggnog.

My new favorite sentence.  :)

Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter Decemberish (sorry about that, southern Hemisphere) holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?

I'm well ensconced in a family matrix and since the family matrix is Yulish, I am too.  It really is more Yulish for us than Christmasy, by the way.  Santa everywhere, Nativity scenes nowhere.

Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?

Never a problem for me because I'm apatheist.  Apathy doesn't take offense.  In fact, I participate in theological discussions from the perspective of whomever I'm talking with.  I talk Islam with Muslims and Judaism with Jews.  I know enough about the three monotheisms to be able to talk about them insightfully and I do so.  "Moses supposedly did this so logically, then..."

Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

Yule. 

Oh, but let's ditch gift-giving.  I'm a grinch in that regard.  The family matrix has finally stopped all that, preferring instead to go together to a Broadway show.  Victory!  ;)

Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Xjeepguy on November 22, 2011, 11:30:07 AM
Xmas will be interesting this year. My wife has no idea that the xmas cards I am going to order actually say "Happy winter solstice". Besides that I shall enjoy the company of my wife, kids, and the few remaining family members, as we eat, drink and be merry. People celebrated this time long before the myth was ever created, so I take no offence.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Tristan Jay on November 22, 2011, 02:36:32 PM
1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter Decemberish (sorry about that, southern Hemisphere) holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?

I've always loved Christmas, particularly a lot of the secular trappings and so forth; I've loved it before I was a Christian, and I'll probably still like it this year.  I like the feasting, the tree decorating, looking at the house lights, egg nog, hot chocolate, hot buttered rum, all the seasonal pies and most of the seasonal foods, love it.  The only thing that gets to me is all the stuff popping up in the shops months in advance; sometimes even before Halloween has passed by.

2. How do you maintain your sanity during the season? (Not a diss. Honest question.)

The thing is, I don't love the songs.  Every year, it's the same annoying stock collection of songs, and the new ones that seem to get added to the list are the ones that I didn't like from the get go. 

I had an interesting experience early last week, while working a night shift; the store was mostly empty except for myself and the rest of the stocking crew, and the Christmas music was playing; and it was driving me insane.  I started turning into an irritable, complaining, sarcastic, prone-to-violence punk (the violence was directed onto packaged merchandise that I could get away with it on).  I am usually a very patient, calm, mild-mannered person as a rule; some people can't imagine me getting angry at all.  I was wondering in my head as I was breaking down, "Am I more conscientious of it more now that I hate God, and don't want his stupid plan glorified?"  All of it bugged me, but the more religious songs were making me boil inside!  Fortunately, the manager changed the station after maybe an hour or so.  It's funny, given question number 4 talking about "evil atheists"; I'll bet Christians might thing I'm demonically possessed!  :(  I don't know how I'm going to cope after Thanksgiving, but I am seriously considering ear plugs, which I normally hate because they're very uncomfortable for me.  I suppose it's better to be uncomfortable and not have a psychotic episode, right?

3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?

I don't think this will effect things much with my family.  We're all not really religious, yet spiritual in different ways.  Mom's a "recovering Catholic" I believe is the phrase, but she'll still read daily devotional type stuff; she's also ventured into select areas of New Age type stuff (crystals and a few other things I can't recall).  My Dad sticks to two rules: love God and love your neighbor; he also has read the Bible and extensive historical and archeological stuff pertaining to it.  I haven't discussed my current status; we will all probably just celebrate the secular aspects of the holiday.

4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

I'm only an evil misotheist, but I'll throw out Festivus (a George Costanza thing IIRC), and Saturnalia (only 'cause I'm thinking of Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory here).
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Whitney on November 22, 2011, 02:42:48 PM
1. Christmas/Festivius/Giftmas/Solstice...calling it whatever the group I'm around prefers.

3. Christmas was stolen from the pagans, doesn't actually coincide with when Jesus would have been born if he existed, and over the years the commercialization has stripped any real religious meaning from the holiday....even most religious people don't celebrate Christmas religiously.  So, no problems.

4.  Rename it back to Winter Solstice since that's what it was originally celebrating.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Too Few Lions on November 22, 2011, 02:56:14 PM
Quote from: Whitney on November 22, 2011, 02:42:48 PM
4.  Rename it back to Winter Solstice since that's what it was originally celebrating.
'tis the reason for the season and all that, I'd love to see xmas given back its proper title of winter solstice. I've got a few friends going down to Stonehenge to celebrate the actual solstice, but I think it'll be too cold for me to do anything outdoors to celebrate the (re)birth of the Sun.

xmas for me will be a lot of eating too much, drinking too much and giving and receiving presents, the same things people were doing thousands of years ago before Christianity hijacked the solstice festivities!
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Davin on November 22, 2011, 03:30:09 PM
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter Decemberish (sorry about that, southern Hemisphere) holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?
Not for the last two years, except I send out gifts to my family and call them. That is about as much celebrating as I do.
Quote from: Fi2. If you don't... how do you maintain your sanity during the season? (Not a diss. Honest question.)
By staying off the roads as much as possible.
Quote from: Fi3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?
If they don't mention it, I don't make them cry.
Quote from: Fi4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?
Don't need to rename it, it's already very secular. It's more about Santa and gifts than the biblically incorrect birth time of some dude that probably never existed.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Siz on November 22, 2011, 04:13:05 PM
The best bit is watching my littluns doing their Nativity and singing. Brings a tear to my eye every year.
"Little Donkey, Little Donkey..." :'(

And I dont care if the songs are religious, it's just such a magical time for a child and I love being a part of it and making it magical for them.

Hoorah for telling fantastical stories and pretending Jesus was born to the frigid wife of a chippie, and a comet scorched overhead to guide three sycophants carrying useless presents for a baby. You couldn't make that stuff up! ;D
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: AnimatedDirt on November 22, 2011, 04:26:49 PM
Quote from: Whitney on November 22, 2011, 02:42:48 PM
1. Christmas/Festivius/Giftmas/Solstice...calling it whatever the group I'm around prefers.

3. Christmas was stolen from the pagans, doesn't actually coincide with when Jesus would have been born if he existed, and over the years the commercialization has stripped any real religious meaning from the holiday....even most religious people don't celebrate Christmas religiously.  So, no problems.

4.  Rename it back to Winter Solstice since that's what it was originally celebrating.

What happened to (2)?  Ha!

Agreed.

I love the Christmas season, I love the songs and the general happiness it brings.  I don't care for the shopping frenzy and the pressure it brings to get "everyone" a gift.  I hate the trees in the house.  They just make a huge mess.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 22, 2011, 04:44:00 PM
Quote1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter Decemberish (sorry about that, southern Hemisphere) holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?

Yes, but we're starting to use the tree again mostly because of my niece. I loved that sort of thing when I was a child, and she'll be at a loss if there weren't santas, presents and some sort of that holiday fever all over the place. 

Quote2. If you don't... how do you maintain your sanity during the season? (Not a diss. Honest question.)
3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?

When I visit my grandparents, who are religious, I tolerate them. They're family after all. ;D I don't join in the prayers though, but realise that it just isn't the time to discuss religion from my perspective, even if Christianity took an existing celebration and adapted it (brilliant strategy, actually).


Quote4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

I would call it winter solstice, but in the southern hemisphere it isn't winter. That northern evergreen tree (pagan symbol, btw) also seems a bit misplaced in an oven/house that's around 31 degrees celsius during the end of December. But oh well, tradition ;D Christmas doesn't really have any religious conotation for my secular family, so no one really gives the name second thought except for my mother. 



Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on November 22, 2011, 04:48:52 PM
I hate Christmas music. With a fiery passion.

I shouldn't say this but, I do have a soft spot for eggnog with a little bit a Kahlua. I only ever hav a little sip from the adults with their permission.

I really like making my gifts. I remember I made one one of my horse- loving friends a new saddle pad. The look on her face when she opened it made my year.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on November 22, 2011, 04:57:22 PM
I love the lights. I'm going to NYC with my wife and oldest granddaughter the weekend before. Hope it snows.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: xm1 on November 22, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
I encourage the realization that while christians stole this season from the pagans, capitalists then stole it from the christians.  I think the last real christian version of this holiday happened nearly a hundred years ago, it was a somber thing about church and choir, just an extra version of what usually happened on sunday.  Then that christmas card thing happened in europe and spread to the states.  And now christmas morning is a capitalist cannibal love fest, all ages invited.  That doesn't mean I don't enjoy it, I just kinda snicker whenever I hear an atheist protest christmas for irreligious reasons.  Because you are giving it far more credit then it will ever again deserve. And for this reason, to me, celebrating christmas is like celebrating a victory against religion.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Stevil on November 22, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on November 22, 2011, 04:48:52 PM
I hate Christmas music. With a fiery passion.
Same here, Christmas carols and Christmas songs are rubbish.
I honestly feel that people who make Christmas albums threaten their credibility as a music artist, at least to me. It certainly takes the gloss off.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on November 22, 2011, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: Stevil on November 22, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on November 22, 2011, 04:48:52 PM
I hate Christmas music. With a fiery passion.
Same here, Christmas carols and Christmas songs are rubbish.
I honestly feel that people who make Christmas albums threaten their credibility as a music artist, at least to me. It certainly takes the gloss off.

I just really annoys me that they start playing it in November. One can only take so much of the same 30 songs being repeated endlessly.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Siz on November 22, 2011, 07:06:02 PM
Quote from: xm1 on November 22, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
I encourage the realization that while christians stole this season from the pagans, capitalists then stole it from the christians.  I think the last real christian version of this holiday happened nearly a hundred years ago, it was a somber thing about church and choir, just an extra version of what usually happened on sunday.  Then that christmas card thing happened in europe and spread to the states.  And now christmas morning is a capitalist cannibal love fest, all ages invited.  That doesn't mean I don't enjoy it, I just kinda snicker whenever I hear an atheist protest christmas for irreligious reasons.  Because you are giving it far more credit then it will ever again deserve. And for this reason, to me, celebrating christmas is like celebrating a victory against religion.

It gets exactly the credit it deserves in my household. I'm as cynical as the the next man about the capitalism of it, but it is what we make it. And we choose to make it a fun and exciting holiday from the humdrum of everyday life.  The cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face atheists are welcome to wallow in Grinchitude while we enjoy ourselves. Happy holidays!
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Davin on November 22, 2011, 07:40:50 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on November 22, 2011, 06:27:51 PM
Quote from: Stevil on November 22, 2011, 06:04:52 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on November 22, 2011, 04:48:52 PM
I hate Christmas music. With a fiery passion.
Same here, Christmas carols and Christmas songs are rubbish.
I honestly feel that people who make Christmas albums threaten their credibility as a music artist, at least to me. It certainly takes the gloss off.

I just really annoys me that they start playing it in November. One can only take so much of the same 30 songs being repeated endlessly.
They're not all bad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iq10bz3PxyY).
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Recusant on November 22, 2011, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on November 22, 2011, 06:27:51 PMI just really annoys me that they start playing it in November. One can only take so much of the same 30 songs being repeated endlessly.

We had a thread about Christmas music (http://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=6308.0) last year. People started posting songs that they don't mind that much, or actually enjoy. Unfortunately because of the forum software change, the redirect tags on most of them are no longer working, but usually you can copy-paste the address into your browser and get to them.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Asmodean on November 22, 2011, 08:09:15 PM
Quote from: xm1 on November 22, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
And now christmas morning is a capitalist cannibal love fest, all ages invited.
Is that wrong..? If so, why? Wherever you have a capitalist cannibal orgy, there is usually also a materialist orgy going on in the next room. And me, I like the idea of a massive spending spree, although in order to not overtax certain stores' capacity, I would try making it more individual rather than a fixed point in a year.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Stevil on November 22, 2011, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: xm1 on November 22, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
And now christmas morning is a capitalist cannibal love fest, all ages invited.
If the Christmas commercial beast didn't come around each year, then would people have an excuse to spend their money.
It is an adrenaline jab to the heart of the economy to kick it back into life.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: xm1 on November 22, 2011, 09:55:47 PM
Quote from: Stevil on November 22, 2011, 08:57:49 PM
Quote from: xm1 on November 22, 2011, 05:20:33 PM
And now christmas morning is a capitalist cannibal love fest, all ages invited.
If the Christmas commercial beast didn't come around each year, then would people have an excuse to spend their money.
It is an adrenaline jab to the heart of the economy to kick it back into life.

Yeah im not an economics person, so i'm not sure what would happen to the world if we didn't feel obligated to trade in paper for trinkets to excess around the end of the year.  But regardless, the tradition is clearly capitalist, not christian, and therefore i snicker whenever I hear an atheist protest christmas for irreligious reasons.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 22, 2011, 11:31:28 PM
I actually think that if the pagans (pre-infiltration-of-christianity era, not the neo pagans) were still alive they would be more pissed than atheists...with Christians claiming it as their own.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 23, 2011, 01:48:10 AM
Quote from: Tristan Jay on November 22, 2011, 02:36:32 PM
The thing is, I don't love the songs.  Every year, it's the same annoying stock collection of songs, and the new ones that seem to get added to the list are the ones that I didn't like from the get go. 


I love the songs, both secular and religious, for about a week or 2 and after that I just want to take a gun to the radio.  I can stand to hear about some mutant reindeer and his shallow reindeer pals only so many times, and even the little drummer boy gets annoying after the 1,136,678,395th time I've heard about him.  Unfortunately, some stations start playing Xmas music before Thanksgiving which seems to me really overdoing it.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Crow on November 23, 2011, 02:26:40 AM
If I happen to start doing work for the holiday season in September I usually despise the festive side of things by the end of October, this year I turned all that work down. Winter is my favorite time of year so I never have any problem with keeping my mood up, to get past the cold just invest in some good thermals (nanotech fabrics are the best), a few good coats (waxed cotton or goose-down filled), and crepe soled boots that are sheep skin lined for ice and you will be sorted. I don't celebrate Christmas myself so I usually buy a bunch of computer games to play through the time whilst everything is closed or crazy busy. I always go to Christmas parties/meals/celebrations because fun is fun and when alcohol and/or food is involved I am sold. I don't listen to the radio so Christmas music isn't a problem though I cant stand it no matter how secular it is.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: BullyforBronto on November 23, 2011, 02:31:57 AM
Xmas time is great. Food, alcohol, family. To me it has nothing to do with the baby Jesus.

And, for all of you Xmas music haters, Irving Berlin was a genius. If you're a songwriter, you have to respect him. I am convinced that most of the early Beatles songs were influenced by his chord progressions.

Oh, and you can't beat The Pougues' "Fairy Tale of New York." The best Xmas song ever written.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: MinnesotaMike on November 23, 2011, 08:05:08 AM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on November 22, 2011, 04:48:52 PM
I hate Christmas music. With a fiery passion.

^This, and the oft repeated question "why aren't we this nice all throughout the year?"

I have a hard time compiling a list of 'good gift ideas' (apparently essentials don't count lol), and a harder time coming up with the money for others. But the food... lefse, pierogies, sausage, pickled herring... worth it. My family makes an annual run into Minneapolis to get legitimate Swedish and Polish food every year. The tradition is great, and when you're away at college it's nice to see family again.
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Quote from: BullyforBronto on November 23, 2011, 02:31:57 AM
And, for all of you Xmas music haters, Irving Berlin was a genius. If you're a songwriter, you have to respect him. I am convinced that most of the early Beatles songs were influenced by his chord progressions.

Oh, and you can't beat The Pougues' "Fairy Tale of New York." The best Xmas song ever written.

Perhaps you have a different selection in other countries, because we have to deal with stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhg33LNL2ts (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhg33LNL2ts)
But it's not just one version. I hear about three new ones every year, and I avoid Christmas music as much as possible. Up until tonight, I had never heard "Fairy Tale of New York" either.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Tank on November 23, 2011, 08:10:28 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 23, 2011, 01:48:10 AM
Quote from: Tristan Jay on November 22, 2011, 02:36:32 PM
The thing is, I don't love the songs.  Every year, it's the same annoying stock collection of songs, and the new ones that seem to get added to the list are the ones that I didn't like from the get go. 


I love the songs, both secular and religious, for about a week or 2 and after that I just want to take a gun to the radio.  I can stand to hear about some mutant reindeer and his shallow reindeer pals only so many times, and even the little drummer boy gets annoying after the 1,136,678,395th time I've heard about him.  Unfortunately, some stations start playing Xmas music before Thanksgiving which seems to me really overdoing it.
I do miss Christmas carols, in particular 'Once in Royal David's City' I could sing that really well (IMHO) when I was a kid. And where else do you get to do communal singing except at church?
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on November 23, 2011, 08:52:48 AM
Quote from: BullyforBronto on November 23, 2011, 02:31:57 AM
Oh, and you can't beat The Pougues' "Fairy Tale of New York." The best Xmas song ever written.

I do like that one, and the John Lennon song.

Another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwikfLtjfHQ
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Stevil on November 23, 2011, 09:50:48 AM
Christmas carols ACDC style (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aEEhN7_ZTw)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on November 23, 2011, 12:13:03 PM
Quote from: MinnesotaMike on November 23, 2011, 08:05:08 AM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on November 22, 2011, 04:48:52 PM
I hate Christmas music. With a fiery passion.

^This, and the oft repeated question "why aren't we this nice all throughout the year?"

I have a hard time compiling a list of 'good gift ideas' (apparently essentials don't count lol), and a harder time coming up with the money for others. But the food... lefse, pierogies, sausage, pickled herring... worth it. My family makes an annual run into Minneapolis to get legitimate Swedish and Polish food every year. The tradition is great, and when you're away at college it's nice to see family again.

Pickled herring= Best food. Ever.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 23, 2011, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Tank on November 23, 2011, 08:10:28 AM
I do miss Christmas carols, in particular 'Once in Royal David's City' I could sing that really well (IMHO) when I was a kid. And where else do you get to do communal singing except at church?

They just don't have those wandering choruses anymore.  Here's a non-Xmas song I wouldn't mind hearing carolers sing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3woM079L_4&list=PLD6D8E84BFF9FFC9F&index=15&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3woM079L_4&list=PLD6D8E84BFF9FFC9F&index=15&feature=plpp_video)

but this traditional Xmas classic can't be beat either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUZsYRjg378&list=PLD6D8E84BFF9FFC9F&index=17&feature=plpp_video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUZsYRjg378&list=PLD6D8E84BFF9FFC9F&index=17&feature=plpp_video)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: OldGit on November 23, 2011, 03:52:13 PM
Don't forget the poor old reindeer!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIWHWjddGsQ&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIWHWjddGsQ&feature=related)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 23, 2011, 04:21:00 PM
I love how this thread turned into how people say they hate Christmas carols to 'which carols do you like?'

;)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Asmodean on November 23, 2011, 04:39:41 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on November 23, 2011, 04:21:00 PM
I love how this thread turned into how people say they hate Christmas carols to 'which carols do you like?'

;)
Well then, here is some more appropriate input. Asmo style.

Carols I like: none
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 23, 2011, 11:07:36 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on November 23, 2011, 04:21:00 PM
I love how this thread turned into how people say they hate Christmas carols to 'which carols do you like?'

;)

Thread drift, it's inevitable.  Maybe a separate thread should be started for holiday frou-frou we love.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on November 24, 2011, 12:20:50 AM
I'm not criticising it anything, I just find it humourous how it all changed ;)

Carry on, by all means, maybe good carols really do exist ;D
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: OldGit on November 24, 2011, 02:31:02 PM
For me, there are few good carol texts, but many superb tunes.

My favourite is Auf, Tochter Zion, schmücke Dich (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=666zuBc7kIs), also O Little Town, Silent Night, Tannenbaum ....
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Tristan Jay on November 24, 2011, 02:43:49 PM
I do like "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" when done in a traditional way (as opposed to a modern pop rendition), I find the melody to be haunting in a pleasingly melancholy way.

I also like "Hark! Hear the Bells" as it's used in the first Home Alone movie; when the kid realizes that he has to get back home to wage war on the burglars; it's cool how as he runs along, the house lights start springing on as he passes, heralding the battle to come...

It's the simple, random things in life sometimes...
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sweetdeath on November 24, 2011, 04:32:37 PM
I like Futurama's xmas best.

Anyway, I don't celebrate it. It's not religious, but a consumer holiday, where stupid people buy crappy gifts they can't really afford, or else they feel left out.

The streets and shops are crowded til mid January, which annoys me. And I sympathize greatly with those who have to work black friday.
Xmas is meaningless to me; religious aspects aside.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Asmodean on November 24, 2011, 04:36:02 PM
You know what annoys me..? All the lights. I mean, I don't NEED some asshole's giant tree with a million Watt star on top right at the level of my bedroom window, delivering a gazillion lx of light in as I try to sleep. Lived for four years with that. Fortunately, no more.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Fi on November 24, 2011, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on November 24, 2011, 04:36:02 PM
You know what annoys me..? All the lights. I mean, I don't NEED some asshole's giant tree with a million Watt star on top right at the level of my bedroom window, delivering a gazillion lx of light in as I try to sleep. Lived for four years with that. Fortunately, no more.

I love lights, but I don't see the point in keeping them on all night... not only is it obnoxious, it's a waste of electricity.

The best light display I ever saw, though, didn't involve any lights on the outside of the house. It was just the leg lamp from A Christmas Story in the window. I wanted to knock on the door just to high-five those people.

Quote from: Tristan Jay on November 24, 2011, 02:43:49 PM
I do like "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" when done in a traditional way (as opposed to a modern pop rendition), I find the melody to be haunting in a pleasingly melancholy way.

That is a nice one, though lyric-wise I prefer the HP Lovecraft Society's version. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9gRtHX6c08) XD

Awake ye scary Great Old Ones, let everything dismay
Remember great Cthulhu will rise up from R'lyeh
To kill us all with tentacles if we should go his way
O tidings of madness and woe...


And of course It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Fishmen. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wU0GwyQKSE&feature=related)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 24, 2011, 11:57:22 PM
Quote from: Fi on November 24, 2011, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on November 24, 2011, 04:36:02 PM
You know what annoys me..? All the lights. I mean, I don't NEED some asshole's giant tree with a million Watt star on top right at the level of my bedroom window, delivering a gazillion lx of light in as I try to sleep. Lived for four years with that. Fortunately, no more.

I love lights, but I don't see the point in keeping them on all night... not only is it obnoxious, it's a waste of electricity.


I love the lights too -- one of my favorite things to do in Dec is drive up and down the streets after dark looking at the lit up houses and trees.  One guy has two enormous palm trees in his front yard and he puts red lights on the trunks and green lights on the fronds every year -- maybe it's just me, but I find it breathtaking.  I just wish I could take a decent picture of it.  Of course, I've never had those lights blinking in my bedroom window which I know would change my perspective on how pretty they are.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sweetdeath on November 25, 2011, 02:34:11 AM
I also dislike xmas lights and xmas displays in general. They can be tastefully done, but usually aren't. Once again, i'd rather worship someone cool like Odin. XP
Odin > Santa claus.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Tom62 on November 25, 2011, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on November 25, 2011, 02:34:11 AM
I also dislike xmas lights and xmas displays in general. They can be tastefully done, but usually aren't. Once again, i'd rather worship someone cool like Odin. XP
Odin > Santa claus.
I agree with you. Santa is nothing more than a cheap, Coca Cola commercialized rip-off of Sinterklaas.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Siz on November 25, 2011, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on November 24, 2011, 04:36:02 PM
You know what annoys me..? All the lights. I mean, I don't NEED some asshole's giant tree with a million Watt star on top right at the level of my bedroom window, delivering a gazillion lx of light in as I try to sleep. Lived for four years with that. Fortunately, no more.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailystab.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2Fditto.jpg&hash=982d1625311bbb99c053ab3fcbc24334f37a0e74)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Asmodean on November 25, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
Quote from: Scissorlegs on November 25, 2011, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on November 24, 2011, 04:36:02 PM
You know what annoys me..? All the lights. I mean, I don't NEED some asshole's giant tree with a million Watt star on top right at the level of my bedroom window, delivering a gazillion lx of light in as I try to sleep. Lived for four years with that. Fortunately, no more.

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailystab.com%2Fblog%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2Fditto.jpg&hash=982d1625311bbb99c053ab3fcbc24334f37a0e74)
I'd much rather sleep in the house on the right, in a bedroom with windows facing away from house on the left.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on November 26, 2011, 02:08:03 AM
Well, you know, that reminds me of these ol' famous lights

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roscachapa.com%2Fimagenes%2Fimages%2Fjesus_wtf.jpg&hash=1afd3e814daef81a2423c47ce411a955b83b1bbc)

I like.

P.S. I love me some Christmas time. Egg nog, apple cider, trees, lights, stories, crappy music, all of that. The only thing I don't like is all of the presents. In this day in age do we really need to keep giving each other a ton of shit EVERY year? How much storage space do we all have? Are we all aspiring to TLC's Hoarders?

So I always ask for Christmas items that can be "used up" - wine, chocolate, candles, girly soapy stuff, clothes (which are easily donated after use). I'd much rather that than getting a million knic knacs and devices that I'm supposed to keep piling up in my home for all of eternity. 

Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on November 26, 2011, 02:10:11 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on November 26, 2011, 02:08:03 AM
Well, you know, that reminds me of these ol' famous lights

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roscachapa.com%2Fimagenes%2Fimages%2Fjesus_wtf.jpg&hash=1afd3e814daef81a2423c47ce411a955b83b1bbc)

I like.

Funny!  Where was this?
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on November 26, 2011, 02:16:21 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on November 26, 2011, 02:10:11 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on November 26, 2011, 02:08:03 AM
Well, you know, that reminds me of these ol' famous lights

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roscachapa.com%2Fimagenes%2Fimages%2Fjesus_wtf.jpg&hash=1afd3e814daef81a2423c47ce411a955b83b1bbc)

I like.

Funny!  Where was this?

I don't know, I remember seeing it floating around the internet ages ago. I thought most people had seen it before? Maybe not, though? Still, it always makes me smile :)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sweetdeath on November 26, 2011, 05:25:05 AM
Quote from: DeterminedJuliet on November 26, 2011, 02:08:03 AM
Well, you know, that reminds me of these ol' famous lights

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.roscachapa.com%2Fimagenes%2Fimages%2Fjesus_wtf.jpg&hash=1afd3e814daef81a2423c47ce411a955b83b1bbc)

I like.

P.S. I love me some Christmas time. Egg nog, apple cider, trees, lights, stories, crappy music, all of that. The only thing I don't like is all of the presents. In this day in age do we really need to keep giving each other a ton of shit EVERY year? How much storage space do we all have? Are we all aspiring to TLC's Hoarders?

So I always ask for Christmas items that can be "used up" - wine, chocolate, candles, girly soapy stuff, clothes (which are easily donated after use). I'd much rather that than getting a million knic knacs and devices that I'm supposed to keep piling up in my home for all of eternity. 



I love that!!
And I agree whole-heartedly about the xmas  gifts. I usually ask for gift cards for that reason. I buy clothes, hair dye and food. XD
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: not your typical... on November 30, 2011, 09:17:56 PM
I voted yay, although I truly don't understand why I love the holidays so much. It's my worst time of year. The holidays are always ruined by some unwanted guest, my doctor puts me back on my meds, and I get to spend no time with the people I actually do love and cherish, my friends. Maybe it's all the booze left unattended.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Asmodean on December 01, 2011, 03:37:32 AM
Yeah well... The holidays have not started yet, and I already don't know what to do with myself. My "Meh" is rapidly progressing to "Let there be January".
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: not your typical... on December 01, 2011, 05:03:21 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on December 01, 2011, 03:37:32 AM
Yeah well... The holidays have not started yet, and I already don't know what to do with myself. My "Meh" is rapidly progressing to "Let there be January".
Holidays start here at Labor day so it's kinda a 6-7 month thing. Labor day, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, Valentines Day, and if the market is lucky Easter falls in March, so it's no avoiding it for me. I guess it's not so much enjoyment as the fact that I can at least screw on a smile throughout the bs.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: OldGit on December 01, 2011, 01:09:20 PM
I take it everyone knows this gem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtZR3lJobjw) by Tom Lehrer?
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on December 01, 2011, 01:35:12 PM
Now that December is here, it is easier to be in the Christmas spirit. Even the music is a bit more bearable.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2011, 12:10:52 AM
I was out Christmas shopping in Google Images and I found this guy.

Those lacking a jovial Christmas attitude WILL BE EXTERMINATED!

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.clikpic.com%2FWillsher%2Fimages%2FNEW-DALEK-design.jpg&hash=95c7d2312f94d0df4482e7e9bf85958a7c194cf8)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 02, 2011, 01:42:53 AM
Quote from: OldGit on December 01, 2011, 01:09:20 PM
I take it everyone knows this gem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtZR3lJobjw) by Tom Lehrer?

I'd never even heard of him before -- things just haven't changed at all in 50 years, have they?  And while I was enjoying that, I came across this terribly un-PC vid that made me laugh like a hyena: All I want for Xmas is Jews (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8LmMtScH3g&NR=1&feature=endscreen)

Quote from: Magic PuddingThose lacking a jovial Christmas attitude WILL BE EXTERMINATED!

Is resistance futile, or is that restricted to the Borg?
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2011, 02:05:19 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on December 02, 2011, 01:42:53 AM
Is resistance futile, or is that restricted to the Borg?

I'm not sure, I know it is useless to resist a Vogon, or at least that's what they claim.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Asmodean on December 02, 2011, 09:34:52 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2011, 02:05:19 AM
I'm not sure, I know it is useless to resist a Vogon, or at least that's what they claim.
I have some second hand info from Asmodean's hitchhiker cousin, that if you turn to clay and pretend to be a rock, they won't notice you. Then you can stab them in the eye.  ;D
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2011, 12:21:31 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on December 02, 2011, 09:34:52 AM
I have some second hand info from Asmodean's hitchhiker cousin, that if you turn to clay and pretend to be a rock, they won't notice you. Then you can stab them in the eye.  ;D

I think you look more like a blob of putty than a rock.
It's dangerous to look like a blob of putty in the presence of a Vogon.
They may recite some poetry at you.
Perhaps your cousin doesn't like you, wishes you harm and covets your lair.
The only defence against Vogon poetry is gnawing off one of your limbs, so you'd be doomed.

QuotePutty. Putty. Putty.
   Green Putty - Grutty Peen.
   Grarmpitutty - Morning!
   Pridsummer - Grorning Utty!
   Discovery..... Oh.
   Putty?..... Armpit?
   Armpit..... Putty.
   Not even a particularly
   Nice shade of green.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: OldGit on December 02, 2011, 12:48:32 PM
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onlymediajunction.com%2Fuserimages%2FMusic-As-Therapy-2.jpg&hash=389ea84030e3a0a7d8011a0dd81aebe79910d5a0)

I'd rather be a Vogon than a blob
Yes I would, if I only could,
Blah,blah ...
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on December 03, 2011, 12:21:21 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2011, 12:10:52 AM
I was out Christmas shopping in Google Images and I found this guy.

Those lacking a jovial Christmas attitude WILL BE EXTERMINATED!

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.clikpic.com%2FWillsher%2Fimages%2FNEW-DALEK-design.jpg&hash=95c7d2312f94d0df4482e7e9bf85958a7c194cf8)

I think they sell these on ThinkGeek! coooooolll
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sweetdeath on December 03, 2011, 04:46:41 AM
Now I really miss that show on sci fi with the robot battles!! ;_;
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 06, 2011, 05:03:40 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on December 02, 2011, 12:10:52 AM
I was out Christmas shopping in Google Images and I found this guy.

Those lacking a jovial Christmas attitude WILL BE EXTERMINATED!

(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww3.clikpic.com%2FWillsher%2Fimages%2FNEW-DALEK-design.jpg&hash=95c7d2312f94d0df4482e7e9bf85958a7c194cf8)

Can those clean houses? Dust off the Christmas tree? Bring me the phone at my bidding and fan my dog when the room temperature makes her uncomfortable?

Might make a good clothes-hanger, at least...

Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Davin on December 06, 2011, 03:03:02 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 06, 2011, 05:03:40 AMCan those clean houses? Dust off the Christmas tree? Bring me the phone at my bidding and fan my dog when the room temperature makes her uncomfortable?

Might make a good clothes-hanger, at least...
They can disintegrate all things that collect dust, destroy your phone and exterminate your dog, so that you don't need anything to do all those things.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: history_geek on December 06, 2011, 09:11:42 PM
1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter Decemberish (sorry about that, southern Hemisphere) holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?

Joulu as we call it is mandatory (hey, Santa lives here! What else are we going to do? And the heck with North Pole and baby Jeebus!), at least to me it has always been. It's one of those days where the whole family get's together and enjoy some good food, have a blast with no worries about everyday problems and, of course, exchange gifts, becase that's what it's all about ;)

And no, I have never recived any critic from anyone. If some did laugh or look at me oddly for celebrating Joulu, he'd be the looney, not me ;D

2. If you don't... how do you maintain your sanity during the season? (Not a diss. Honest question.)

Video games have always safeguarded my sanity from any silly religious undertones ;D

3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?

As I've mentioned before on occasion, we don't talk about religion in our family. It just isn't one of the topics to ever pop up. None of my family are "true believers" by any defenition, so we can concentrate on what's important about this holiday (though I think my grandparents still go to xmas church, and I have gone to listen xmas songs in there....what? I like music. Sue me.).

4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

Joulu works fine for me :p
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: not your typical... on December 06, 2011, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: history_geek on December 06, 2011, 09:11:42 PM
4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

Joulu works fine for me :p
Joulu sounds cool. Approved. ;D
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 06, 2011, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: not your typical... on December 06, 2011, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: history_geek on December 06, 2011, 09:11:42 PM
4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

Joulu works fine for me :p
Joulu sounds cool. Approved. ;D

I'll go with that as well, if someone tells me how to pronounce it.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on December 07, 2011, 01:24:08 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on December 06, 2011, 11:20:04 PM
Quote from: not your typical... on December 06, 2011, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: history_geek on December 06, 2011, 09:11:42 PM
4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

Joulu works fine for me :p
Joulu sounds cool. Approved. ;D

I'll go with that as well, if someone tells me how to pronounce it.

I would, but I have't practiced any Finnish in a long time.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: OldGit on December 07, 2011, 01:11:32 PM
You don't think Finnish is a real language, do you?  Cos it's not - it's just a spoof to confuse foreigners by making weird gibbering noises.   As soon as nobody's listening they talk proper English, just like normal people.

All these so-called foreign languages are the same.  You couldn't actually convey meaningful information in any of 'em.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on December 07, 2011, 01:26:18 PM
Quote from: OldGit on December 07, 2011, 01:11:32 PM
You don't think Finnish is a real language, do you?  Cos it's not - it's just a spoof to confuse foreigners by making weird gibbering noises.   As soon as nobody's listening they talk proper English, just like normal people.

All these so-called foreign languages are the same.  You couldn't actually convey meaningful information in any of 'em.

So that's why I would constantly trip over my own tongue when trying to speak it.  :D
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: history_geek on December 07, 2011, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: OldGit on December 07, 2011, 01:11:32 PM
You don't think Finnish is a real language, do you?  Cos it's not - it's just a spoof to confuse foreigners by making weird gibbering noises.   As soon as nobody's listening they talk proper English, just like normal people.

All these so-called foreign languages are the same.  You couldn't actually convey meaningful information in any of 'em.

Blast and damnation, we have been discovered! I must warn the goverment! :o
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: not your typical... on December 07, 2011, 07:36:32 PM
Quote from: history_geek on December 07, 2011, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: OldGit on December 07, 2011, 01:11:32 PM
You don't think Finnish is a real language, do you?  Cos it's not - it's just a spoof to confuse foreigners by making weird gibbering noises.   As soon as nobody's listening they talk proper English, just like normal people.

All these so-called foreign languages are the same.  You couldn't actually convey meaningful information in any of 'em.

Blast and damnation, we have been discovered! I must warn the goverment! :o
So the conspiracy theories are true!  :o
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Tank on December 07, 2011, 10:03:36 PM
A chap I knew worked for a Swedish company and he couldn't speak Swedish, but all the Sweads could speak English so in meetings they all spoke English. One day he was off work and the next day one of the Sweadish chaps told him that they had had a meeting the previous day (while he was off) and they had done it in English out of habit even though he wasn't there!
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on December 07, 2011, 10:06:11 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 07, 2011, 10:03:36 PM
A chap I knew worked for a Swedish company and he couldn't speak Swedish, but all the Sweads could speak English so in meetings they all spoke English. One day he was off work and the next day one of the Sweadish chaps told him that they had had a meeting the previous day (while he was off) and they had done it in English out of habit even though he wasn't there!

Yea, English is really common over there. A lot of the children watch TV in English because English programs are better than Swedish ones
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: IcyBabe on December 08, 2011, 05:45:07 AM
Christmas is my absolute favorite time of year simply for the spirit of it all and the cold weather, fresh tree smell in the house, hot cocoa, good food, time with the family etc. etc.  It's the experience of it than anything religious involved that I can't get enough of :) 
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Will on December 08, 2011, 05:48:30 AM
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter Decemberish (sorry about that, southern Hemisphere) holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?
I celebrate Christmas Eve and Christmas, as they're basically cultural holidays. I love Christmas. I put months and months of thought (and paychecks) into what kind of gifts I give, I cook my very best recipes for my family and friends, and I listen to and play Christmas music all month long.

To me, Christmas is a holiday celebrating family, peace, and joy. These are things worth celebrating in tradition.

Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM3. Since this is a religious holiday, and a lot of us have religious family and friends: how do you keep the peace during the holidays?
Christmas isn't a religious holiday, tbh. As was pointed out on the Daily Show last night, Christians as recently as a few hundred years ago were strongly against celebrating Christmas and found it to be offensive and sacrilegious. While Christmas has some religious roots, so do the names of the days of the week. That doesn't mean enjoying Friday means I'm worshiping Freya, the goddess for whom the day is named. Christians are welcome to think Christmas is their holiday, just like anyone is welcome to believe something that's incorrect.
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?
Call it the Natalis Solis Invicti (birth of the unconquered sun). It's badass and more historically accurate.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: not your typical... on December 08, 2011, 05:54:36 AM
Quote from: Will on December 08, 2011, 05:48:30 AM
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM1. Do you celebrate Christmas/any of the other winter Decemberish (sorry about that, southern Hemisphere) holidays? Whether you do or you don't: Ever gotten flak for it?
I celebrate Christmas Eve and Christmas, as they're basically cultural holidays. I love Christmas. I put months and months of thought (and paychecks) into what kind of gifts I give, I cook my very best recipes for my family and friends, and I listen to and play Christmas music all month long.

To me, Christmas is a holiday celebrating family, peace, and joy. These are things worth celebrating in tradition.
Well stated. I concur. That is really what Christmas is now.

Quote from: Will on December 08, 2011, 05:48:30 AM
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?
Call it the Natalis Solis Invicti (birth of the unconquered sun). It's badass and more historically accurate.
It is more badass.... me likes. :)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Pharaoh Cat on December 08, 2011, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: Fi on November 22, 2011, 05:21:54 AM
4. If us evil atheists with our evil atheist agenda successfully secularize/steal Christmas, what should we rename it?

Xmas!

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Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Pharaoh Cat on December 09, 2011, 01:46:16 AM
For fun I made a "Merry Cthulmas from Santa Cthulhu" page on Faceboook. 8)

Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on December 09, 2011, 01:49:35 AM
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Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 09, 2011, 03:15:42 AM
This first one is an interview with David Hallberg, the first American to dance with the Bolshoi Ballet, on the Colbert Report:  interview (http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/403810/december-07-2011/david-hallberg)

And here's the reason this is in the Xmas thread -- Hallberg, ballerina Hee Seo and Stephen Colbert perform a dance from The Nutcracker.  Enjoy:  dance (http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/403811/december-07-2011/-the-nutcracker--ballet-performance)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Crocoduck on December 09, 2011, 08:02:40 PM
I'm conflicted when it comes to Christmas. I always find it to be extremely stressful and it always makes me feel melancholy if not out right depressed.

On the other hand I like the lights, trees and the plastic Snowmen in peoples yards. I also like a lot of the classic Christmas music. When else do I get to listen to the great Bing Crosby or Nat King Cole without people laughing at me.

I also love some of the movies like Christmas Vacation and A Christmas Story although I read Jean Shepherd book last year and it was so different from the movie I it's weird watching the movie.

I voted Meh and I think that sums up my ambivalence best.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on December 09, 2011, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: Crocoduck on December 09, 2011, 08:02:40 PM
I'm conflicted when it comes to Christmas. I always find it to be extremely stressful and it always makes me feel melancholy if not out right depressed.

On the other hand I like the lights, trees and the plastic Snowmen in peoples yards. I also like a lot of the classic Christmas music. When else do I get to listen to the great Bing Crosby or Nat King Cole without people laughing at me.

I also love some of the movies like Christmas Vacation and A Christmas Story although I read Jean Shepherd book last year and it was so different from the movie I it's weird watching the movie.

I voted Meh and I think that sums up my ambivalence best.

It is a tradition for my mom, brother, and me to watch Christmas Vacation. Heck, Mom named her cat after Ruby Sue (her eyes were crossed as a kitten)
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 09, 2011, 09:21:07 PM
Quote from: Crocoduck on December 09, 2011, 08:02:40 PM
I also love some of the movies like Christmas Vacation and A Christmas Story although I read Jean Shepherd book last year and it was so different from the movie I it's weird watching the movie.

You know, I've never seen either one of those.  My favorites are The Nutcracker (the real one), and that classic Art Carney Twilight Zone episode, The Night of the Meek.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Crocoduck on December 09, 2011, 09:22:40 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on December 09, 2011, 08:27:44 PM
It is a tradition for my mom, brother, and me to watch Christmas Vacation. Heck, Mom named her cat after Ruby Sue (her eyes were crossed as a kitten)


Ruby Sue:  Rocky bit my thumb. Him's nervous.
Clark:  Nervous or excited?
Ruby  Sue: Shittin' bricks.
Clark:  You shouldn't use that word.
Ruby Sue:  Sorry. Shittin' rocks

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Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Buddy on December 09, 2011, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: Crocoduck on December 09, 2011, 09:22:40 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on December 09, 2011, 08:27:44 PM
It is a tradition for my mom, brother, and me to watch Christmas Vacation. Heck, Mom named her cat after Ruby Sue (her eyes were crossed as a kitten)


Ruby Sue:  Rocky bit my thumb. Him's nervous.
Clark:  Nervous or excited?
Ruby  Sue: Shittin' bricks.
Clark:  You shouldn't use that word.
Ruby Sue:  Sorry. Shittin' rocks

Best. Line. Ever
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Fi on December 11, 2011, 06:04:54 AM
Quote from: IcyBabe on December 08, 2011, 05:45:07 AM
Christmas is my absolute favorite time of year simply for the spirit of it all and the cold weather, fresh tree smell in the house, hot cocoa, good food, time with the family etc. etc.  It's the experience of it than anything religious involved that I can't get enough of :) 

That pretty much sums it up for me. Well, except for "fresh tree smell in the house." We have a fake tree due to horrible, horrible allergies. XD

And as a person who is probably part magpie, any excuse to cover buildings and trees and lamp posts and stuff in shiny objects is a good one.
Title: Re: Christmas-time is here.
Post by: Tank on December 11, 2011, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on December 09, 2011, 09:27:04 PM
Quote from: Crocoduck on December 09, 2011, 09:22:40 PM
Quote from: Budhorse4 on December 09, 2011, 08:27:44 PM
It is a tradition for my mom, brother, and me to watch Christmas Vacation. Heck, Mom named her cat after Ruby Sue (her eyes were crossed as a kitten)


Ruby Sue:  Rocky bit my thumb. Him's nervous.
Clark:  Nervous or excited?
Ruby  Sue: Shittin' bricks.
Clark:  You shouldn't use that word.
Ruby Sue:  Sorry. Shittin' rocks

Best. Line. Ever
LOL