Title: What is a happy athiest to YOU ... Lets make some statements
Post by: rickymooston on February 07, 2008, 05:27:54 AM
Post by: rickymooston on February 07, 2008, 05:27:54 AM
I think to make this forum PERSONAL we should all in our own way and words say what it means to be a happy athiest for us.
This video was directed towards somebody who had some tough times. Its a bit geared to its purpose but you can get my philosophy as a taoist from it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6CCeLVGcjc
P.S. If you are a WWGHA person, notice anything familiar. (E.g., some jam, crepes)
Sorry about the spelling mistakes
This video was directed towards somebody who had some tough times. Its a bit geared to its purpose but you can get my philosophy as a taoist from it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6CCeLVGcjc
P.S. If you are a WWGHA person, notice anything familiar. (E.g., some jam, crepes)
Sorry about the spelling mistakes
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Post by: Bella on February 07, 2008, 08:56:08 AM
Post by: Bella on February 07, 2008, 08:56:08 AM
Um, I guess hanging out with my friends (the ones who are also athiest of course), and mocking religion. Not having to stress about going to church, hell, or god watching me pee (I was always paranoid about that as a kid since they said he was always watching), is nice as well.
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Post by: Kona on February 07, 2008, 09:01:17 AM
Post by: Kona on February 07, 2008, 09:01:17 AM
Being a happy atheist is all about being free from the hellfire judgment of a fictional deity. Oh, and did I mention the guilt-free pleasure of drinking Sam Adams? :cheers:
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Post by: Mister Joy on February 07, 2008, 02:27:17 PM
Post by: Mister Joy on February 07, 2008, 02:27:17 PM
Things that make me happy about being atheist:
1) I would never have the stamina to voluntarily sit through a church gathering and being an atheist means that I don't have to bother with any of that rubbish.
2) I'm bisexual, the implications of which are obvious.
3) I don't have to constantly accumulate flimsy rationalisations to maintain the foundation of my way of living. Instead, I get to take the unbreakable, diamond tipped pick axe of logic and smash these asinine head-games apart whenever someone presents them to me. Much more fun.
4) I second Kona's drinking thing and would throw smoking, sex, decent music and general having fun into the mix as well.
5) There is no afterlife. It baffles Christians, to the point where they accuse me of lying, but I'm very put off by the whole eternity in X, Y or Z hell/heaven thing. I'd rather just die and leave it at that, ta very much.
Well that's more or less all I can think of, for now.
Also, welcome to the forum ricky.
1) I would never have the stamina to voluntarily sit through a church gathering and being an atheist means that I don't have to bother with any of that rubbish.
2) I'm bisexual, the implications of which are obvious.
3) I don't have to constantly accumulate flimsy rationalisations to maintain the foundation of my way of living. Instead, I get to take the unbreakable, diamond tipped pick axe of logic and smash these asinine head-games apart whenever someone presents them to me. Much more fun.
4) I second Kona's drinking thing and would throw smoking, sex, decent music and general having fun into the mix as well.
5) There is no afterlife. It baffles Christians, to the point where they accuse me of lying, but I'm very put off by the whole eternity in X, Y or Z hell/heaven thing. I'd rather just die and leave it at that, ta very much.
Well that's more or less all I can think of, for now.
Also, welcome to the forum ricky.
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Post by: Sita on February 07, 2008, 04:58:57 PM
Post by: Sita on February 07, 2008, 04:58:57 PM
Hi Ricky
Being a happy atheist frees me from the fear of going to hell for all eternity. That was something I had nightmares about as a kid.
And I too have to agree with Kona about the Sam Adams. Winterfest is my favorite, too bad I have to wait until next winter to get it again
Being a happy atheist frees me from the fear of going to hell for all eternity. That was something I had nightmares about as a kid.
And I too have to agree with Kona about the Sam Adams. Winterfest is my favorite, too bad I have to wait until next winter to get it again
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Post by: Sophie on February 07, 2008, 05:45:15 PM
Post by: Sophie on February 07, 2008, 05:45:15 PM
Although it still has a stigma with most people (no matter how tolerant they think they are), I'll admit that I have a mental illness. I'm well medicated and compliant with therapy, etc, so most of the time, I'm functional and enjoying life. This background will help the rest to make sense.
Becoming an atheist about four months ago has significantly reduced the psychological issues I used to suffer from. That makes me very happy. For exmaple, I used to have a severe fear of hell, paranoia about being watched by God and always coming up short, and thinking myself an unworthy sinner who wasn't allowed to enjoy anything that wasn't directly related to Christianity. The result was a vicious cycle of rebellion (which is dangerous in your 30's) and hyper-Christianity. I don't do that anymore! :) I'm no longer chained down by irrational guilt. It was like being covered in a bunch of wet blankets - once you realize you can dump them, suddenly you can move and breathe freely and see life as it is.
On a lighter note, I now enjoy having curiosity about astronomy again. I feel happy that I no longer worry obsessively about what others think of me. I have fun looking at art for the sake of art. I have fun playing games again. OH! And I LOVE listening to whatever music I want to!!! No more hiding the Green Day CDs!
**Of course, I feel obligate to add that I'm still doing all the things I need to do in order to keep myself healthy, including medications and therapy. No one should quit taking medicines that a doctor has deemed necessary (usually the people that quit do so when they feel better). The only reason I was finally able to shrug off religion was because I was healthy, not the other way around. Anyone that has philosophical issues with psychiatric medications is welcome to Private Message me.
Becoming an atheist about four months ago has significantly reduced the psychological issues I used to suffer from. That makes me very happy. For exmaple, I used to have a severe fear of hell, paranoia about being watched by God and always coming up short, and thinking myself an unworthy sinner who wasn't allowed to enjoy anything that wasn't directly related to Christianity. The result was a vicious cycle of rebellion (which is dangerous in your 30's) and hyper-Christianity. I don't do that anymore! :) I'm no longer chained down by irrational guilt. It was like being covered in a bunch of wet blankets - once you realize you can dump them, suddenly you can move and breathe freely and see life as it is.
On a lighter note, I now enjoy having curiosity about astronomy again. I feel happy that I no longer worry obsessively about what others think of me. I have fun looking at art for the sake of art. I have fun playing games again. OH! And I LOVE listening to whatever music I want to!!! No more hiding the Green Day CDs!
**Of course, I feel obligate to add that I'm still doing all the things I need to do in order to keep myself healthy, including medications and therapy. No one should quit taking medicines that a doctor has deemed necessary (usually the people that quit do so when they feel better). The only reason I was finally able to shrug off religion was because I was healthy, not the other way around. Anyone that has philosophical issues with psychiatric medications is welcome to Private Message me.
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Post by: MommaSquid on February 07, 2008, 07:23:55 PM
Post by: MommaSquid on February 07, 2008, 07:23:55 PM
Quote from: "Sophie"Anyone that has philosophical issues with psychiatric medications is welcome to Private Message me.
I don't think we have any Scientologists here, so you should be safe. :D
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Post by: McQ on February 07, 2008, 07:41:07 PM
Post by: McQ on February 07, 2008, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: "MommaSquid"Quote from: "Sophie"Anyone that has philosophical issues with psychiatric medications is welcome to Private Message me.
I don't think we have any Scientologists here, so you should be safe. :D
Ditto to everything Momma said. Couldn't say it better, so I won't even try!
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Post by: SteveS on February 08, 2008, 01:59:31 AM
Post by: SteveS on February 08, 2008, 01:59:31 AM
I'm a "happy" atheist because I find a deep satisfaction from a naturalistic worldview and am a generally "happy" person. Not believing in god or souls or the afterlife has not driven me to depression or erased all "meaning" from my life. In fact, it makes me happy to feel that my meaning is whatever I want it to be, and I don't have to feel bad or guilty about my choice.
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Post by: rickymooston on February 08, 2008, 02:42:39 AM
Post by: rickymooston on February 08, 2008, 02:42:39 AM
Quote from: "Mister Joy"Things that make me happy about being atheist:
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Also, welcome to the forum ricky.
Thanks and thanks sita.
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Post by: JebusKryst on February 08, 2008, 08:48:13 PM
Post by: JebusKryst on February 08, 2008, 08:48:13 PM
I'm happy being an atheist because I can now enjoy a big fat joint without feeling like someone is watching me....
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Post by: rickymooston on February 09, 2008, 05:45:18 AM
Post by: rickymooston on February 09, 2008, 05:45:18 AM
Quote from: "JebusKryst"I'm happy being an atheist because I can now enjoy a big fat joint without feeling like someone is watching me....
haha.
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Post by: Kona on February 09, 2008, 07:20:43 AM
Post by: Kona on February 09, 2008, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: "JebusKryst"I'm happy being an atheist because I can now enjoy a big fat joint without feeling like someone is watching me....
I have notified the RCMP.....they will be watching! :lol:
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Post by: freeverse on February 21, 2008, 04:10:11 PM
Post by: freeverse on February 21, 2008, 04:10:11 PM
I'm a happy atheist because I can now accept the randomness of the universe, and don't have to try to reconcile the horrible things that happen in the world with some deity's twisted sense of justice. In the same way, I also more fully appreciate the beauty, for it's own sake.
This has sort of already been mentioned, but I was sooo happy to do away with the concept of my soul existing for eternity - in hell or otherwise. The idea of existing forever and ever and ever always either creeped me out or seemed ridiculously monotonous. Yay for returning to the earth.
This has sort of already been mentioned, but I was sooo happy to do away with the concept of my soul existing for eternity - in hell or otherwise. The idea of existing forever and ever and ever always either creeped me out or seemed ridiculously monotonous. Yay for returning to the earth.
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Post by: jaymayo on February 21, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
Post by: jaymayo on February 21, 2008, 04:44:20 PM
What makes me a happy atheist??? What they said. 
- No guilt on actions that are naturally and rationally acceptable yet sinful to super-omnipotent and impotent sky manate.
- Keeping everything balanced like the universe follows and not be extreme and fundamental (add -ist on these to boot).
- Knowing that life is now and that we should make most out of it instead of knowing there is an afterlife and wasting our time and effort to get there to the detriment of our time here in Earth.
- No guilt on actions that are naturally and rationally acceptable yet sinful to super-omnipotent and impotent sky manate.
- Keeping everything balanced like the universe follows and not be extreme and fundamental (add -ist on these to boot).
- Knowing that life is now and that we should make most out of it instead of knowing there is an afterlife and wasting our time and effort to get there to the detriment of our time here in Earth.
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Post by: LARA on February 21, 2008, 06:41:28 PM
Post by: LARA on February 21, 2008, 06:41:28 PM
It's a release, a feeling of freedom, the freedom to create my own values. The freedom to make my own choices in my life, from the simple ones like having a beer and enjoying the feeling without guilt to big ones like opposing dangerous and crazy apocalyptic beliefs. I can embrace change instead of doing things the way they always have been done. I can think for myself, feel what I want to, I can adapt. And when you want to make choices I don't agree with, I can let you, because I don't have to save you from anything.
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Post by: Eris on March 15, 2008, 03:13:59 AM
Post by: Eris on March 15, 2008, 03:13:59 AM
Great topic!
To me, being a happy atheist means feeling secure in the integrity of my philosophy, being loving and inclusive of lgbt and other heathens (people that I have always liked more anyway) without feeling like I'm supposed to condemn their behavior just because god doesn't like it for whatever petty and arbitrary reasons, appreciating this life and being challenged to make the most of each moment because it's not going to last forever.
To me, being a happy atheist means feeling secure in the integrity of my philosophy, being loving and inclusive of lgbt and other heathens (people that I have always liked more anyway) without feeling like I'm supposed to condemn their behavior just because god doesn't like it for whatever petty and arbitrary reasons, appreciating this life and being challenged to make the most of each moment because it's not going to last forever.
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Post by: the_atheist_organist on March 16, 2008, 02:55:38 AM
Post by: the_atheist_organist on March 16, 2008, 02:55:38 AM
It makes me happy to be an atheist...
*_To know that life doesn't have to be lived in constant fear. That one can make mistakes without having to go TELL someone totally not involved.
*_Not to have to lie in bed at night trying to communicate with an invisible man.
*_now that I can spend time learning about things created by humans, like art, technology, scientific theories, and things created by the fascinating laws of NATURE, which had no help from anything "all-knowing" or "all-powerful"...
*_I can read Richard Dawkins without feeling guilty!
*_To know that life doesn't have to be lived in constant fear. That one can make mistakes without having to go TELL someone totally not involved.
*_Not to have to lie in bed at night trying to communicate with an invisible man.
*_now that I can spend time learning about things created by humans, like art, technology, scientific theories, and things created by the fascinating laws of NATURE, which had no help from anything "all-knowing" or "all-powerful"...
*_I can read Richard Dawkins without feeling guilty!
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Post by: Whitney on March 17, 2008, 04:29:50 AM
Post by: Whitney on March 17, 2008, 04:29:50 AM
Everyone, I've been thinking about starting to work on writing a book for a while now and finally got around to starting. I haven't figured out all the details yet but it will probably be called "Happy Atheist" and it will be a response to common stereotypes and also issues I consider troubling about he 'new atheism' movement (which means I need to do more reading).
Here's what the intro is so far, I'm sure it will be tweaked quite a bit as the book progresses:
So, staying with this topic..
I am thinking that a chapter of the book should be basically a series of accounts from various atheists about how they feel about living in America (other people can write something too, just try to tie it into American atheists since I'm going to focus in that direction) as an atheist and how you came to consider yourself a happy atheist.
I'm not even sure what the chapter would be about yet and figured the submissions would guide the topic. If you have already written something for this thread, reformat it to what you wouldn't mind seeing printed somewhere and let me know what name to use as the author (you can use a real name or a pen name).
If you aren't sure what to say, take your time...I don't plan on publishing this thing anytime soon. You will all have a chance to read drafts and comment as they become available.
Here's what the intro is so far, I'm sure it will be tweaked quite a bit as the book progresses:
QuoteI, like many other American atheists, was raised as a Christian. However, unlike many conservative Christians, I was raised to have an appreciation of science which included accepting evolution theory into my faith. This has given me a unique perspective of Christianity, which seems to be unique compared to some of the more prominent atheist figures. However, this is not a book about why I am not a Christian. Nor is this book about why I am an atheist. Both of those topics have been covered in depth by others. This book is about the emotional side of being a non-believer in a country which tends to equate atheism with immorality. It is also, obviously, about being a happy atheist within such an environment.
So, staying with this topic..
I am thinking that a chapter of the book should be basically a series of accounts from various atheists about how they feel about living in America (other people can write something too, just try to tie it into American atheists since I'm going to focus in that direction) as an atheist and how you came to consider yourself a happy atheist.
I'm not even sure what the chapter would be about yet and figured the submissions would guide the topic. If you have already written something for this thread, reformat it to what you wouldn't mind seeing printed somewhere and let me know what name to use as the author (you can use a real name or a pen name).
If you aren't sure what to say, take your time...I don't plan on publishing this thing anytime soon. You will all have a chance to read drafts and comment as they become available.
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Post by: McQ on March 17, 2008, 04:42:54 AM
Post by: McQ on March 17, 2008, 04:42:54 AM
Quote from: "laetusatheos"Everyone, I've been thinking about starting to work on writing a book for a while now and finally got around to starting. I haven't figured out all the details yet but it will probably be called "Happy Atheist" and it will be a response to common stereotypes and also issues I consider troubling about he 'new atheism' movement (which means I need to do more reading).
Here's what the intro is so far, I'm sure it will be tweaked quite a bit as the book progresses:QuoteI, like many other American atheists, was raised as a Christian. However, unlike many conservative Christians, I was raised to have an appreciation of science which included accepting evolution theory into my faith. This has given me a unique perspective of Christianity, which seems to be unique compared to some of the more prominent atheist figures. However, this is not a book about why I am not a Christian. Nor is this book about why I am an atheist. Both of those topics have been covered in depth by others. This book is about the emotional side of being a non-believer in a country which tends to equate atheism with immorality. It is also, obviously, about being a happy atheist within such an environment.
So, staying with this topic..
I am thinking that a chapter of the book should be basically a series of accounts from various atheists about how they feel about living in America (other people can write something too, just try to tie it into American atheists since I'm going to focus in that direction) as an atheist and how you came to consider yourself a happy atheist.
I'm not even sure what the chapter would be about yet and figured the submissions would guide the topic. If you have already written something for this thread, reformat it to what you wouldn't mind seeing printed somewhere and let me know what name to use as the author (you can use a real name or a pen name).
If you aren't sure what to say, take your time...I don't plan on publishing this thing anytime soon. You will all have a chance to read drafts and comment as they become available.
Sounds like a great undertaking, and I'd be pleased to participate. I like the direction you want to take the book too.
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Post by: Whitney on March 18, 2008, 12:25:01 AM
Post by: Whitney on March 18, 2008, 12:25:01 AM
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Impuzzled, please do not post any more off topic content in this thread, I want to keep this thread somewhat clean since I'll need to be able to easily find content later. I created a thread just for you, click the above mentioned link.
-laetusatheos
Impuzzled, please do not post any more off topic content in this thread, I want to keep this thread somewhat clean since I'll need to be able to easily find content later. I created a thread just for you, click the above mentioned link.
-laetusatheos
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Post by: ShimShamSam on March 20, 2008, 04:52:14 PM
Post by: ShimShamSam on March 20, 2008, 04:52:14 PM
Hey I'm new here
What makes me a happy atheist is to live my life how I want to, with my own code of morals. Also it would be nice if I wasn't constantly attacked for my beliefs. I don't mind a good debate, and usually win on this subject, but its pointless because neither side will change viewpoints. So what would make me happy is to live in piece with my atheism.
I mean, I don't go door to door preaching atheism, I wouldn't sink to their level, and I don't outwardly attack those religious. But what would make me happy is if people would accept me having my view as I do by letting them have theirs. Perhaps they're threatened by me.
What makes me a happy atheist is to live my life how I want to, with my own code of morals. Also it would be nice if I wasn't constantly attacked for my beliefs. I don't mind a good debate, and usually win on this subject, but its pointless because neither side will change viewpoints. So what would make me happy is to live in piece with my atheism.
I mean, I don't go door to door preaching atheism, I wouldn't sink to their level, and I don't outwardly attack those religious. But what would make me happy is if people would accept me having my view as I do by letting them have theirs. Perhaps they're threatened by me.
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Post by: Will on March 20, 2008, 05:19:07 PM
Post by: Will on March 20, 2008, 05:19:07 PM
There is an indescribable peace that comes from no longer deceiving one's self about the realities of existence. It's the peace of liberty; the peace of honest and true freedom from oppression. I find my life worth living because I live it on my terms.
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Post by: ShimShamSam on March 20, 2008, 06:01:49 PM
Post by: ShimShamSam on March 20, 2008, 06:01:49 PM
Exactly, I plan on living my life my own way, as well as I can, until my inevitable death. It makes no sense to live your whole life in a way to prepare for what you believe comes after it, especially if no one has returned from there to tell you if it's even worth going.
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Post by: susangail on March 22, 2008, 11:28:20 PM
Post by: susangail on March 22, 2008, 11:28:20 PM
oh the joys of being an Atheist (coming from a former Christian)...
- being myself and not feeling guilty about it
- I'm bisexual, enough said
- no guilt when I miss church, don't pray as much, don't read the Bible, etc.
- I can swear
- I'm bipolar and now I have no guilt for being on prescription drugs rather than 'trusting in God'
- living how I want to live and not how I'm told I should live
- living life to its fullest, not just passing by with hopes of a better afterlife
- I don't have to hate Darwin
- I can say I hate someone, not strongly dislike
- freedom
- indescribable peace
Just to name a few. There are so many reasons I'm a happy Atheist.
- being myself and not feeling guilty about it
- I'm bisexual, enough said
- no guilt when I miss church, don't pray as much, don't read the Bible, etc.
- I can swear
- I'm bipolar and now I have no guilt for being on prescription drugs rather than 'trusting in God'
- living how I want to live and not how I'm told I should live
- living life to its fullest, not just passing by with hopes of a better afterlife
- I don't have to hate Darwin
- I can say I hate someone, not strongly dislike
- freedom
- indescribable peace
Just to name a few. There are so many reasons I'm a happy Atheist.
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Post by: ShimShamSam on March 22, 2008, 11:36:40 PM
Post by: ShimShamSam on March 22, 2008, 11:36:40 PM
ya see...THAT is what I'm missing out on. I never had that truly revolutionary moment in my life where I rejected my faith and saw everything in a new and glorious light. I never believed as long as i can remember, I can not remember myself believing. I'm jealous Susan, there, I said it.
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Post by: susangail on March 23, 2008, 02:28:33 AM
Post by: susangail on March 23, 2008, 02:28:33 AM
Well thank you I guess, that sort of makes me feel better about my religious brainwashing, but don't feel like you're missing out. Being a happy Atheist is so much easier if you don't have to undo all that has been engrained into your brain all your life. I still feel guilty like I'm betraying my family and Christian friends or something, though I know there's no reason to.
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Post by: Mister Joy on March 24, 2008, 12:27:09 AM
Post by: Mister Joy on March 24, 2008, 12:27:09 AM
At the same time, though, having to rationally battle your way into sanity must strengthen conviction, allow you to prove yourself and force you to learn your stuff. It provides a much better basis than "Hey, I don't know anything about theism - I'm just an atheist because all of my mates are" (as is often the case with my generation in the UK, unfortunately). I'm not envious of ex-Christian atheist but I certainly respect them.
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Post by: susangail on March 24, 2008, 01:03:37 AM
Post by: susangail on March 24, 2008, 01:03:37 AM
I see what you're saying. It's difficult but I think I like it that way. I like the knowledge I have. It certainly makes debates rather interesting.
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Post by: Lindsey_Mcfarren on March 26, 2008, 04:32:49 AM
Post by: Lindsey_Mcfarren on March 26, 2008, 04:32:49 AM
I think alot of what makes me a happy atheist is as a result or reaction of what I endured as a Seventh Day Adventist.
I beleive in treating all people with value and respect, I cherish their differences rather then trying to take those differences away and force them to walk a different road.
I believe this life here on earth is all there is so I believe in living it well, have fun, treat peope well.
I avoid bible nuts like the plague, I have a hard time keeping a straight face when they start going on. I wonder at their ability to swallow so much fantasy. Truth be told I do feel sorry for their bent towards the emotional and fantasy life. I treat the with sympathy when I can. I have to admit that I do feel they have a weakness of spirit and mind to NEED to believe what they do.
I beleive in treating all people with value and respect, I cherish their differences rather then trying to take those differences away and force them to walk a different road.
I believe this life here on earth is all there is so I believe in living it well, have fun, treat peope well.
I avoid bible nuts like the plague, I have a hard time keeping a straight face when they start going on. I wonder at their ability to swallow so much fantasy. Truth be told I do feel sorry for their bent towards the emotional and fantasy life. I treat the with sympathy when I can. I have to admit that I do feel they have a weakness of spirit and mind to NEED to believe what they do.
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Post by: rickymooston on April 19, 2008, 10:31:52 PM
Post by: rickymooston on April 19, 2008, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: "susangail"oh the joys of being an Atheist (coming from a former Christian)...
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- I'm bipolar and now I have no guilt for being on prescription drugs rather than 'trusting in God'
Wow what church you went to? Scary.
Quote- living how I want to live and not how I'm told I should live
- living life to its fullest, not just passing by with hopes of a better afterlife
- I don't have to hate Darwin
- I can say I hate someone, not strongly dislike
- freedom
- indescribable peace
Just to name a few. There are so many reasons I'm a happy Atheist.
seems for you atheism was liberating and that was happiness in itself.
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Post by: rickymooston on April 19, 2008, 10:51:04 PM
Post by: rickymooston on April 19, 2008, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: "ShimShamSam"Hey I'm new here
... Also it would be nice if I wasn't constantly attacked for my beliefs. I don't mind a good debate, and usually win on this subject, but its pointless because neither side will change viewpoints. So what would make me happy is to live in piece with my atheism.....
Yeah, fair enough.
I suspect part of being a happy atheist is to accept that there are theists who are trying to push their beliefs on people. I mean you can counter them but at a certain level I doubt letting their tactics bug you is conducive to happiness. That said my cousin is simply very aggressive about her ateism and people are afraid to talk to her about religion. Shes pretty happy but she lives in canada.
debating those who are willing to debate? Mabye ok.