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#81
Current Events / Re: Ah That's Not Worth a New ...
Last post by The Magic Pudding.. - September 18, 2023, 09:37:03 AMClimate scientists say they have "never seen anything" like this year's emerging El Niño, as the major climatic event inches closer to development.
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#82
Current Events / Re: Ah That's Not Worth a New ...
Last post by The Magic Pudding.. - September 18, 2023, 09:33:01 AM #83
Ask HAF / Re: Things we might like to ad...
Last post by Asmodean - September 18, 2023, 08:12:24 AMQuote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 12, 2023, 11:13:43 AMWould it be possible/desirable to have some sort of limited news feed to spark discussion?It is possible to integrate news feeds from some aggregators, though it would require some quality control. What kind of news, from where, etc.
Is AI input possible?
Marcus wasn't artificial nor intelligent, yet he did spawn some discussion.
Even the present troubled mind spammer has got some replies.
I might start a rolling In The News Thread where stuff can just be pasted.
I know inertia prevents me from me starting new threads, ah that's not worth a new thread, I think I'll have a snooze.
#84
Religion / Re: Mahsa Amini
Last post by Asmodean - September 18, 2023, 08:04:17 AMAs a Dungeons and Dragons player, I can confirm.
Seriously though, one is often handicapped without the other. If intelligence is, simply put, the ability to identify and/or create solutions to problems efficiently, then wisdom is the ability to make the most of intelligence, for instance considering the possible outcomes if one's solutions were to be applied, looking at the situation "through the eyes of another..." Such like. If you can't solve a problem, that's bad. If your solution is "kill all humans," that's probably worse.
Seriously though, one is often handicapped without the other. If intelligence is, simply put, the ability to identify and/or create solutions to problems efficiently, then wisdom is the ability to make the most of intelligence, for instance considering the possible outcomes if one's solutions were to be applied, looking at the situation "through the eyes of another..." Such like. If you can't solve a problem, that's bad. If your solution is "kill all humans," that's probably worse.
#85
Current Events / Re: Split From News Thread: Pu...
Last post by Asmodean - September 18, 2023, 07:53:05 AMI shall revisit for a long-form reply, as I think we are approaching if not the same one, then at least neighbouring pages.
There is a reason why I use the term "not-wrong" to delineate from being "right," or "correct." I suspect Putin of having a mirror-looking agenda in mind and while his conclusions in this are plausible and broadly align with my own, I think his way of arriving at them is of a self-serving variety.
There is a reason why I use the term "not-wrong" to delineate from being "right," or "correct." I suspect Putin of having a mirror-looking agenda in mind and while his conclusions in this are plausible and broadly align with my own, I think his way of arriving at them is of a self-serving variety.
#86
Current Events / Re: Split From News Thread: Pu...
Last post by Recusant - September 17, 2023, 06:53:48 PMI came across some quotes yesterday that seemed apposite to me. From Jaques Ellul's book Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes:
Though predictive rather than retrodictive, no less accurate. Putin is infamous for jailing and/or murdering his political opponents, and for his profound dishonesty. That does not mean that his accusation against Biden and the US political system is automatically wrong, but it does mean that it should be immediately suspect.
Merrick Garland, the US Attorney General, has been punctilious about keeping the Department of Justice clear of any influence from the Biden administration, yet he appointed a special counsel to add yet another degree of separation from the president. That special counsel has a history of prosecuting corruption by both Democratic and Republican politicians, and I'm unaware of any indication he's given that he's biased against Trump.
Regardless, the public record is full of evidence that Trump actually perpetrated all of the crimes of which he's been accused, not only in the cases the special counsel is prosecuting, but in Georgia and New York as well. The claim that he's being prosecuted for political reasons appears to be nothing more than special pleading.
ETA: You were right, Asmodean. This topic deserved to be split from Magic Pudding's thread.
QuotePropaganda by its very nature is an enterprise for perverting the significance of events and of insinuating false intentions.
. . .
The propagandist will not accuse the enemy of just any misdeed. He will accuse him of the very intention that he himself has, and of trying to commit the very crime that he himself is about to commit.
. . .
The accusation aimed at the other's intention clearly reveals the intention of the accuser.
Though predictive rather than retrodictive, no less accurate. Putin is infamous for jailing and/or murdering his political opponents, and for his profound dishonesty. That does not mean that his accusation against Biden and the US political system is automatically wrong, but it does mean that it should be immediately suspect.
Merrick Garland, the US Attorney General, has been punctilious about keeping the Department of Justice clear of any influence from the Biden administration, yet he appointed a special counsel to add yet another degree of separation from the president. That special counsel has a history of prosecuting corruption by both Democratic and Republican politicians, and I'm unaware of any indication he's given that he's biased against Trump.
Regardless, the public record is full of evidence that Trump actually perpetrated all of the crimes of which he's been accused, not only in the cases the special counsel is prosecuting, but in Georgia and New York as well. The claim that he's being prosecuted for political reasons appears to be nothing more than special pleading.
ETA: You were right, Asmodean. This topic deserved to be split from Magic Pudding's thread.
#87
Laid Back Lounge / Re: Ban The Poster Above You
Last post by No one - September 17, 2023, 02:54:31 PMNab lasrever elor
#88
Ask HAF / Re: Things we might like to ad...
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#89
Religion / Re: Mahsa Amini
Last post by Recusant - September 17, 2023, 03:02:11 AMQuote from: The Magic Pudding.. on September 16, 2023, 03:11:22 PMQuote from: billy rubin on September 16, 2023, 02:42:17 PMif intelligence results in humanity living stunted lives or destroying itself, are we actually intelligent at all?
Ye of course, maybe not quite intelligent enough, or a bit too much.
intelligence ≠ wisdom
#90
Religion / Re: Mahsa Amini
Last post by The Magic Pudding.. - September 16, 2023, 03:11:22 PMQuote from: billy rubin on September 16, 2023, 02:42:17 PMif intelligence results in humanity living stunted lives or destroying itself, are we actually intelligent at all?
Ye of course, maybe not quite intelligent enough, or a bit too much.