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General => Ethics => Topic started by: MarcusA on June 03, 2023, 08:17:28 AM

Title: Does evil exist?
Post by: MarcusA on June 03, 2023, 08:17:28 AM
I think religion is evil, but that's just me.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: MarcusA on June 03, 2023, 09:24:51 AM
I think war is evil, but not just me.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: No one on June 03, 2023, 09:42:44 AM
Only in the minds of men.

Life is brutal, and it takes no prisoners.

That being said, hoomans can do terrible awful things just because.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on June 03, 2023, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: No one on June 03, 2023, 09:42:44 AMOnly in the minds of men.

Yes I agree, only in the minds of men.
Those who spout on about evil should be exterminated, it's the only way to be rid of it.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: Old Seer on June 03, 2023, 03:25:15 PM
Evil cannot exist without good and are facts of nature. Both are needed for there to be life. Neither can exist without the other.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on June 03, 2023, 03:29:36 PM
Crapty crap crap.
All weirdoes are welcome here.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: No one on June 03, 2023, 04:45:56 PM
Where does evil exist outside of hooman parameters?
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: billy rubin on June 03, 2023, 07:20:46 PM
nowhere.

good and evil are human interptetations of ibrating molecules and heat flow.

pain and anguish exist, but not good and evil.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: MarcusA on June 04, 2023, 12:10:05 AM
"Ego is not a dirty word."
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: MarcusA on June 04, 2023, 12:10:45 AM
Bad science is just bad science.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: Asmodean on June 14, 2023, 07:36:50 AM
Evil exists in much the same way as rights exist. It's a construct, used to describe something intangible, conceptual in nature.

It is subjective and flawed, yet at the same time useful for its relatability in the sense that if you denounce something as evil, your in-group is likely to view it in a more negative light just because of it.

Why is a serial killer evil, while the Universe is not? Both will kill you most viciously, given half a chance. The latter, however, lacks intent - the rest is a matter of perspective.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: No one on June 14, 2023, 07:42:41 AM
Science is never bad. Just because pathetically ignorant hoomans are frightened by its legitimacy, does not make it any less legitimate.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: Asmodean on June 14, 2023, 09:36:27 AM
Quote from: No one on June 14, 2023, 07:42:41 AMScience is never bad. Just because pathetically ignorant hoomans are frightened by its legitimacy, does not make it any less legitimate.
When it becomes political or has a profit motive, it can actually be "bad."

For instance, it is bad science to start with the conclusion and do what must be done to provide sufficient road map for reaching it. The conclusion may or may not be correct, but that is not how the method works. That belongs more in the realm of the proverbial devil quoting the scripture. (e.g. cigarettes don't cause cancer)

Another thing I personally take issue with, and this is largely in the realm of environ-mentalism, though also a little medicine and others, is scientists being unclear in their presentation about the line between the scope of their scientific inquiry and any social oughts and ought nots. I wouldn't call it bad sicence as such, more bad form on the part of individual scientists with an agenda to push rather than a question to answer.
Title: Re: Does evil exist?
Post by: MarcusA on June 14, 2023, 10:02:48 AM
Not all science is bad. Lysenkoism was just bad science that got a push from Soviet ideologues.