Title: Stupid Design
Post by: stumblingvoyager on December 29, 2010, 04:00:10 AM
Post by: stumblingvoyager on December 29, 2010, 04:00:10 AM
Rather than plagiarise this this wonderful idea, I'll hand over to the irrepressible NDG Tyson:
[NB: if this has already been posted elsewhere... my most sincere apolly-ologies: I'm new
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[youtube:kqzh97tp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_nqySMvkcw[/youtube:kqzh97tp]
My major beef with creationism is that is very terrestriocentric; as soon as we leave earth, yahweh's (or zeus, or whatever he's calling himself nowadays) line starts to crackle somewhat... So, to what extent does Tyson's argument banjax the good ol' 'intelligent design' line? Discuss!
[NB: if this has already been posted elsewhere... my most sincere apolly-ologies: I'm new
][youtube:kqzh97tp]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_nqySMvkcw[/youtube:kqzh97tp]
My major beef with creationism is that is very terrestriocentric; as soon as we leave earth, yahweh's (or zeus, or whatever he's calling himself nowadays) line starts to crackle somewhat... So, to what extent does Tyson's argument banjax the good ol' 'intelligent design' line? Discuss!
Title: Re: Stupid Design
Post by: TheJackel on December 29, 2010, 04:18:43 AM
Post by: TheJackel on December 29, 2010, 04:18:43 AM
It shows that either said designer is dumb as we are, or there is no "designer". And then you look at the nutcase that just posted cutting the heads off Atheists..
Title: Re: Stupid Design
Post by: Tokage on January 22, 2011, 07:13:20 AM
Post by: Tokage on January 22, 2011, 07:13:20 AM
Love Tyson. It's almost comical hearing creationists say the Universe is designed for life where there is absolutely no where else known of to man that is habitable to life without the assistance of higher technology, and even then is only temporarily able to allow our frail human bodies to survive without suffering catastrophic health risks. We really are a fragile species, and there are a plethora of things that could come along and erase our short existance on this planet. It seems so obvious that we are but one species that has arisen on this planet by way of evolution, and to think a supernatural being has put us here under such stressed, dangerous and uncertain circumstances is ridiculous. Good post man.
Title: Re: Stupid Design
Post by: Tank on January 22, 2011, 07:27:20 AM
Post by: Tank on January 22, 2011, 07:27:20 AM
The 'Tea Break' creature.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciencedaily.com%2Fimages%2F2008%2F05%2F080507131453-large.jpg&hash=e559c9e3b31fc42933db0ae373edc25ad58ef97d)
Platypus Genome Explains Animal's Peculiar Features; Holds Clues To Evolution Of Mammals (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080507131453.htm)
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciencedaily.com%2Fimages%2F2008%2F05%2F080507131453-large.jpg&hash=e559c9e3b31fc42933db0ae373edc25ad58ef97d)
Platypus Genome Explains Animal's Peculiar Features; Holds Clues To Evolution Of Mammals (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080507131453.htm)
Title: Re: Stupid Design
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 14, 2011, 05:42:02 PM
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 14, 2011, 05:42:02 PM
The link isn't working anymore... 
I think what they mean by the universe is "designed" for life is that life is possible - we know that it occured at least once - not that the universe is a place that we as a complex organsim can live without certain narrow specifed conditions for sustainability. I think that some of you are attacking that assertion as if it meant that the universe were like one infinitely big planet Earth.
For all we know life (mostly simple) may have erupted all over the place, with conditions less specified and narrow. In places that are hostile to us even.
I think what they mean by the universe is "designed" for life is that life is possible - we know that it occured at least once - not that the universe is a place that we as a complex organsim can live without certain narrow specifed conditions for sustainability. I think that some of you are attacking that assertion as if it meant that the universe were like one infinitely big planet Earth.
For all we know life (mostly simple) may have erupted all over the place, with conditions less specified and narrow. In places that are hostile to us even.
Title: Re: Stupid Design
Post by: Twentythree on May 24, 2011, 08:09:38 PM
Post by: Twentythree on May 24, 2011, 08:09:38 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on March 14, 2011, 05:42:02 PM
The link isn't working anymore... <img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/Sigh_emoticon.gif" alt=":sigh:" title="sigh" />
I think what they mean by the universe is "designed" for life is that life is possible - we know that it occured at least once - not that the universe is a place that we as a complex organsim can live without certain narrow specifed conditions for sustainability. I think that some of you are attacking that assertion as if it meant that the universe were like one infinitely big planet Earth.
For all we know life (mostly simple) may have erupted all over the place, with conditions less specified and narrow. In places that are hostile to us even.
I think it also depends on how narrowly you define "life". Is a virus alive? Is DNA alive? Depending on how broad a definition of life you want to use, any self self sustaining chain reaction could be considered alive.
Title: Re: Stupid Design
Post by: Recusant on May 25, 2011, 02:14:47 AM
Post by: Recusant on May 25, 2011, 02:14:47 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on March 14, 2011, 05:42:02 PM
The link isn't working anymore...
Link to "Stupid Design" video on youtube. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnWEKi2faRo)