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Post by: Tom62 on July 24, 2006, 04:45:05 PM
The german stereotypes (yodling, lederhosen and funny hats) come from the south of Germany (in Bavaria). I believe they eat atheists for breakfast with a huge pints of beer. Haven't noticed their three eyes, nor seen them eating slow moving childs. Could be that they did that in the former DDR though under their commie regime.
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Post by: Big Mac on July 24, 2006, 06:06:58 PM
Ewww, Bavarians are gross! They make nasty donuts!
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Post by: Asmodean Prime on July 26, 2006, 12:55:28 AM
Ha, ha ha - blood, blood, blood.

You lot on here are plum-crazy.  If we can't agree on something, we might as well laugh about it, eh?
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Post by: Big Mac on July 26, 2006, 05:02:57 AM
Go make me some tea, ya crumpet-eatin' Georgia!
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Post by: Tom62 on July 26, 2006, 07:45:56 AM
Quote from: "onlyme"Ha, ha ha - blood, blood, blood.

You lot on here are plum-crazy.  If we can't agree on something, we might as well laugh about it, eh?

I'm not crazy, I'm an airplane  :lol: !
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Post by: Big Mac on July 26, 2006, 02:22:28 PM
Well my Wonder Twin powers gave me the form of a water fall! :P
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Post by: Asmodean Prime on July 26, 2006, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: "Big Mac"Well my Wonder Twin powers gave me the form of a water fall! :P

Bigmac - what the h*** (heck) are you talking about?
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Post by: Asmodean Prime on July 26, 2006, 08:27:53 PM
I love the German people.  Ok, as a Christian, I can't agree with the whole holocaust and aryan principle thing, but I've been to Germany and found the German people very accomodating and helpful.   I  have always been fascinated by the German people and culture.   I hope and intend to return there soon one day, and see more of this wonderful countryl.
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Post by: Asmodean Prime on July 26, 2006, 08:29:56 PM
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Quote from: "onlyme"Ha, ha ha - blood, blood, blood.

You lot on here are plum-crazy.  If we can't agree on something, we might as well laugh about it, eh?

I'm not crazy, I'm an airplane  :lol: !

Tom62

That would be aeroplane, right?  Get with the program, Ok, sonny?   After all, we english invented the english language, did we not?
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Post by: Aullios on July 26, 2006, 08:35:49 PM
Quote from: "onlyme"Ok, as a Christian, I can't agree with the whole holocaust and aryan principle thing, but I've been to Germany and found the German people very accomodating and helpful.
Forgive me if I'm misreading this, but are you saying that if you weren't a Christian, you would approve of the Holocaust?  One would hope not.
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Post by: Court on July 26, 2006, 08:45:04 PM
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Quote from: "onlyme"Ok, as a Christian, I can't agree with the whole holocaust and aryan principle thing, but I've been to Germany and found the German people very accomodating and helpful.
Forgive me if I'm misreading this, but are you saying that if you weren't a Christian, you would approve of the Holocaust?  One would hope not.

You never know with onlyme. I'm shocked quite often by the intolerance that he spouts...
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Post by: Asmodean Prime on July 26, 2006, 08:51:10 PM
court, what do you mean by intolerance.  As I said before, I am the most placed person you will ever meet.  But that doesn't mean I have to agree with people's viewpoints, just that I have to accomodate them and treat them as valuable and precious people.  there is a differnece, you know.
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Post by: Court on July 26, 2006, 08:56:20 PM
The most placed? Pray tell, what does that mean?
I only have to peruse the Abortion/Sexuality and Sexism threads to see your intolerance, onlyme.
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Post by: Asmodean Prime on July 26, 2006, 09:03:17 PM
court, ok, i meant to say placid, not placed.  my typing again.

as regards abortion, (don't take offence) but you seem to be taking the mothers' point of view, as opposed to the infants'

I think that children have a right to be looked after by those (adults) who brought them into the world in the first place, not killed off for convenience's sake.  

Am I outdated, or outmoded?  Maybe!   It's just that my thoughts are with the children, not the irriesponsible adults who insist on doing their own thing, regardless of their children's welfare.   Thet can't speak for themselves.
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Post by: Court on July 26, 2006, 09:12:24 PM
You cannot possible think that an unfeeling clump of cells is really a child. That's not outdated, just stupid.
In comparison, a mother is a fully developed, feeling, thinking human being. You think you should compromise her rights for the rights of the unconscious cells?
Not all people who get pregnant are irresponsible. Some are raped, some are just unlucky. No birth control has a 100% success rate. (Don't mention abstinence, please, because it is simply unhealthy to expect an adult not to have sex.) I'm pretty sure that if I were to get pregnant right now, despite birth control, I would probably have an abortion.
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Post by: Asmodean Prime on July 26, 2006, 09:25:39 PM
court, yes, I agree with you on the rape thing.

As regards abortion due to lack of effective contraception, I've read many a testimony from mothers who had abortions early in life, only to regret it later, and find that their actions haunted them all their lives.  I am not a woman, or a mother, but I just hope to advise people (women) on the best course of their lives which will not leave a bitter taste in their mouths later on in life.

Maybe only hindsight will be the best teacher, I don't know.  I'm just trying to help people avoid such  diffficulties and questions of conscience later in life.   After all, these are mainly young 'mothers' who find themselves in this position not of their own making or intent, but still have the burden of living with their actions.  these are children, after all, that we are talking about.
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Post by: Court on July 26, 2006, 09:43:53 PM
Quote from: "onlyme"court, yes, I agree with you on the rape thing.

As regards abortion due to lack of effective contraception, I've read many a testimony from mothers who had abortions early in life, only to regret it later, and find that their actions haunted them all their lives.  I am not a woman, or a mother, but I just hope to advise people (women) on the best course of their lives which will not leave a bitter taste in their mouths later on in life.

I'm not talking about "lack of effective contraception". I'm talking about being the .1% where it simply failed, by no fault of the couple. I'm sure you could find (if you honestly felt like looking) just as many stories from women who are glad they had abortions at a young age. I am simply too young to get pregnant, go through the physical and emotional turmoil of pregnancy and giving up a baby for adoption, and then continue with my relationship with my boyfriend. I know it would rip us apart, and it isn't worth it.
My stepsister got pregnant at the age of 18. She had the baby, planned to give it up for adoption, but it died shortly after birth. She was planning on going to college, but, and mainly because of depression after the birth, she is now doing drugs again and living in a crappy apartment with no job and no money. She did drugs before she got pregnant, but quit. We all knew she was emotionally unstable, and had my parents not been so christian, I would have advised her to have an abortion. In "hindsight", as you like to say, it would have been better for her, and probably the baby, as well.

Quote from: "onlyme"Maybe only hindsight will be the best teacher, I don't know.  I'm just trying to help people avoid such  diffficulties and questions of conscience later in life.   After all, these are mainly young 'mothers' who find themselves in this position not of their own making or intent, but still have the burden of living with their actions.  these are children, after all, that we are talking about.

I don't agree. These are not children if you make the decision early enough. They're embryos, maybe fetuses. Either way, they should not have the same rights as a breathing, thinking human being.
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Post by: Big Mac on July 27, 2006, 04:18:02 AM
I thought scientifically to be living you had to be able to survive on your own as an enclosed being. Not to sound like a dick (which I normally intend to) but technically a fetus is a kind of parasite. It's cold, yes, but it's technically the truth.

I don't think any sane woman enjoys having an abortion, it's not something to break out the cigars and beer about and celebrate. But it's a life decision some women have to make. I definately would not like to ponder what could be and what won't be.

Court, I know how you feel regarding onlyme but I also see that he has his beliefs and that's his business. I highly disagree with almost all of them (especially abortion, gay rights, sexism, etc. in the bible).
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Post by: Court on July 27, 2006, 02:38:58 PM
Quote from: "Big Mac"I thought scientifically to be living you had to be able to survive on your own as an enclosed being. Not to sound like a dick (which I normally intend to) but technically a fetus is a kind of parasite. It's cold, yes, but it's technically the truth.

I agree with this position, although I think that women shouldn't have abortions after a fetus's brain has developed (except for medical reasons). However, I respect that even that isn't my decision to make, it's the woman's.

Quote from: "Big Mac"I don't think any sane woman enjoys having an abortion, it's not something to break out the cigars and beer about and celebrate. But it's a life decision some women have to make. I definately would not like to ponder what could be and what won't be.

Big M has a point. I know that I would probably be a bit of a mess if I were to have an abortion. It's not easy on anyone, emotionally or physically. But, for some people (especially young women), it is probably less physically and emotionally scarring than getting pregnant and giving up the baby for adoption or raising it at an unfit age.

Quote from: "Big Mac"Court, I know how you feel regarding onlyme but I also see that he has his beliefs and that's his business. I highly disagree with almost all of them (especially abortion, gay rights, sexism, etc. in the bible).

*Sigh* I know, I know. His small-mindedness just frustrates me. And there are so many people I know just like him! I feel like I'm fighting them all. :)
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Post by: Big Mac on July 27, 2006, 03:45:17 PM
I know, I dealt with the same thing, probably worse than you. I grew up in South Texas! Though Dallas is the home of Tilton....the flatulent preacher.

There are some women I give great credit to, I forget which mother it was but she was told if she gave birth to her child she would die. She went ahead anyway and sacrificed her life for her daugther. That lady had some brass ones clanging.

Onlyme is really trying to be a civil person. He's much better than some redneck who says, "I don't likes none of dem queers in my trailer park because they has dah AIDS!" or some other retarded shit. He's trying to show us the "light", only problem is its infrared. :D
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Post by: Court on July 27, 2006, 04:00:05 PM
I know he's trying to be civil. But he can be so smug!
I'm trying, too. :)
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Post by: Big Mac on July 27, 2006, 04:03:29 PM
Eh, when you are that convicted to your beliefs, it's a natural tendency. I know quite a few atheists who are not immune to this smugness. That and Hybrid-drivers.