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Community => Life As An Atheist => Topic started by: MarcusA on May 05, 2023, 08:47:56 PM

Title: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 05, 2023, 08:47:56 PM
Apart from fascists, no-one around hereabouts is a militant anything.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 09, 2023, 08:32:46 AM
Here, on the other hand, we have everything from militant Islamists to militant Communists. Not long ago, we even had a revolutionary party. Imagine that in the current century Western Europe. Tanks (Crappy, old, Soviet ones, naturally) on the pamphlets and all the trimmings. They've since changed the name and got some plastic surgery done, metaphorically speaking, but it's still the same rot.

A lot of people out there would really, really like to use force on those who oppose them. Me? I oppose the lot.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 09, 2023, 09:11:48 AM
Most, are just militant shitbags.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 07:16:12 AM
Militant atheists usually just lounge around on the couch and think radically.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 07:28:53 AM
Heh... It's a good enough meme, but Atheism turned political to the degree of becoming militant can quickly get as ugly as the rest of them.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 07:39:36 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 07:28:53 AMHeh... It's a good enough meme, but Atheism turned political to the degree of becoming militant can quickly get as ugly as the rest of them.

I have never heard of atheists rioting in the streets.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 07:43:06 AM
Not in the name of Atheism, perhaps, but some do. You can be an atheist and some sort of revolutionary at the same time. You can also turn Atheism into Anti-Theism, which... Certain "wannabe-godlike" governments come to mind.

Atheism in itself is benign. It's just a lack of some specific positive beliefs. Trouble is, it seems not to be enough for quite a lot of people. They want more meat on their labels, turning them into ideological flags rather than linguistic descriptors.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 08:46:36 AM
I'm a moderate is all I know.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 09:17:08 AM
Moderation can be a fine thing. Personally, I prefer to look at is as me having a position on certain issues, which you may or may not call a corresponding name. For me, it "just is." (Quotation marks because I do can justify my views - they "just are" in the sense of lacking affiliation to broader movements)
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 09:28:54 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 09:17:08 AMModeration can be a fine thing. Personally, I prefer to look at is as me having a position on certain issues, which you may or may not call a corresponding name. For me, it "just is." (Quotation marks because I do can justify my views - they "just are" in the sense of lacking affiliation to broader movements)

Man simply is. - Jean-Paul Sartre

Sartre used the above statement as a starting point and left labels on the ground.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 10:24:21 AM
I think that is a fine approach.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 12, 2023, 10:37:33 AM
Man simply is, stupid.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 10:40:47 AM
I do not see any-one arguing against that point here, so... Who is stupid why, precisely?
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 12, 2023, 11:07:06 AM
The entire lot of them.

Religion.
Blind hatred.
War.
Rap.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 12:00:07 PM
Nono, my question is who you were calling stupid here:

Quote from: No one on May 12, 2023, 10:37:33 AMMan simply is, stupid.

Your post immediately succeeds my own, so I assume it is me. In which case, I'd like to know more. In what way, for starters?
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 12:09:55 PM
No-one, you're fucking with things that you know nothing about.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 12, 2023, 12:12:20 PM
Tell me what I don't know about.


I'll wait.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 12:15:55 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 12:09:55 PMNo-one, you're fucking with things that you know nothing about.
As my grandfather should have always told me, "you dip your pen in an unknown ink, and all you get is chlamydia"  :grin:

Actually, grandpa aside, upon re-reading the last few posts, I wonder if No one simply fell victim to punctuation. The good old "kill not pardon" type situation.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: No one on May 12, 2023, 12:12:20 PMTell me what I don't know about.


I'll wait.

Obviously, you haven't read Sartre, otherwise you wouldn't try to contradict a profound statement from him.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: The Magic Pudding. on May 12, 2023, 12:36:36 PM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 12:24:16 PM
Quote from: No one on May 12, 2023, 12:12:20 PMTell me what I don't know about.


I'll wait.

Obviously, you haven't read Sartre, otherwise you wouldn't try to contradict a profound statement from him.

Geez, is Sartre god now?

QuoteMan simply is

Sounds more trite than profound to me.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 12:48:40 PM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding. on May 12, 2023, 12:36:36 PM
QuoteMan simply is

Sounds more trite than profound to me.
I think it sound so because in a "vacuum," it is.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 12:54:23 PM
Magic Pudding, Sartre believed in Marxism. I don't for a number of reasons.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 12:59:44 PM
Sartre also did not opine on the nature of being alive in a vacuum.

I don't know if I would call his insights particularly profound as they tend to lack a certain "wow-value" for me, but they were not without merit.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 01:03:44 PM
Sartre was simply a man like any other.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 12, 2023, 01:16:55 PM
I don't give a shit who said what.

Man (as in the hooMAN race) is simply, stupid.

Hoomans, for all their intelligence, they are without a doubt, the most absurdly foolish creature on the planet.

Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 01:23:33 PM
Yep. It was the comma. :smilenod:
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 01:28:25 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 01:23:33 PMYep. It was the comma. :smilenod:

But, Asmo, No one likes commas, even when they make him look dumb.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 01:31:21 PM
I tend to abuse punctuation myself, so far be it for me to throw wrenches at glass houses. There was a misunderstanding. It was cleared up. I'm satisfied.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 12, 2023, 01:32:27 PM
Teach, me, your, so, gud, wayz, dr., smarty, puh, leaz,
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 01:40:01 PM
Your grammar is appalling like mine, No one.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 12, 2023, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: No one on May 12, 2023, 01:32:27 PMTeach, me, your, so, gud, wayz, dr., smarty, puh, leaz,
How could a self-respecting The Asmo refuse?!

I used the kill not pardon example. Written thusly, "Kill, not pardon" it is a death sentence. On the other hand, "kill not, pardon" is not. Written with no punctuation at all, it is ambiguous.

The sentence I misunderstood was, "Man simply is, stupid." The inference here is; "Man simply is [and you are] stupid." If talking about the man being stupid, I'd word it thusly; "man simply is stupid."
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 12, 2023, 02:42:42 PM
Well then, should I question Mark? We need to loosen up.This period of time should not be like the past, tense.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 02:55:13 PM
Can I play? This game!
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 12, 2023, 03:12:57 PM
Do you mean, are you physically capable? Or, are you asking for permission?
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 03:21:38 PM
This game is limited, just admit it, No one, you are probably self-educated like me.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: No one on May 13, 2023, 08:47:12 AM
Who says im edumakated?
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 15, 2023, 03:40:04 AM
I'm edumakated.
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: Asmodean on May 15, 2023, 07:17:04 AM
Quote from: MarcusA on May 12, 2023, 02:55:13 PMCan I play? This game!

You know, I think this is actually a legitimate way of putting something in writing, but it is two thoughts rather than one;

1. May I take part?
2. Wow! What a game! (for good or ill)
Title: Re: The Tyranny of Distance
Post by: MarcusA on May 17, 2023, 02:57:42 AM
What the hell, did this thread have anything to discuss because I'm lost? That's right, "militant shitbags". Well, they'd just see themselves as hardcore.