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QuoteThe Supreme Court held on Tuesday that Maine must fund religious education as part of a school voucher program that pays tuition for students in rural parts of the state. In the process, the Court's decision in Carson v. Makin tears down one of the foundational rules separating church from state.The decision was 6-3, along partisan lines.The specific program at issue in Carson is unusual to Maine. About 5,000 students in Maine's most rural areas, where it is not cost-efficient for the state to operate a public school, receive tuition vouchers that can be used to pay for private education. Maine law provides that these vouchers may only be used at "nonsectarian" schools, not religious ones.Carson struck down this law excluding religious schools from the Maine voucher program, and that decision could have broad implications far beyond the few thousand students in Maine who benefit from these tuition subsidies.Not that long ago, the Court required the government to remain neutral on questions of religion — a requirement that flowed from the First Amendment's command that the government "shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." In practice, that meant that the government could neither impose burdens on religious institutions that it didn't impose on others, nor could it actively subsidize religion.Carson turns this neutrality rule on its head, holding that government benefit programs that exclude religious institutions engage in "discrimination against religion" that violates the Constitution.[Continues . . .]
Quote"The religious conservative majority on the Supreme Court is intent on placing the interests of Christians above all others, including individuals' fundamental rights," said Alison Gill, Vice President for Legal and Policy at American Atheists. "These justices will keep working at breakneck speed to undermine nondiscrimination protections, replace public education with a discriminatory religious 'education,' and force Americans to fund conservative Christianity and other religions. This will harm countless Americans, especially children.""Extremists are weakening our democracy," said Nick Fish, president of American Atheists. "Calls to reform and expand the Court to limit the impact of its dangerous Christian nationalist wing will only grow louder, as the Supreme Court tries to establish what can only be described as a theocracy. Today's decision is appalling, but it isn't the first and it won't be the last.""As Justice Sotomayor said in her dissent, 'the Court leads us to a place where separation of church and state becomes a constitutional violation.' Today it's public schools; tomorrow it will be abortion. Who knows what comes next? We are embarking on dangerous, uncharted territory," Fish added.[Link to full article.]
Quote from: billy rubin on June 21, 2022, 11:33:48 PMtheyre giving public money to students in religious private schools because they already give money to stidents in non religious private schools.they say it isnt "cost efficient" to build public schools. bullshit. build the schools where the kids are. theyre not supposed to make a profit.im against giving public money to any private schools at all. i think the solution is to build public schools. but if a secular school gets it, i dont think tberes a good reason to exclude religious schools from the program.the answer is public education
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QuoteMany people from legal experts to court watchers to journalists to ordinary Americans on social media are criticizing Justice Neil Gorsuch for his majority opinion in a decision siding with a former high school football coach. That coach sued after the school district ordered him to stop praying after every game at the 50-yard line. Justice Gorsuch's opinion, as many are noticing, appears to be based on facts that are false. Several are accusing Gorsuch of just plain lying.Justice Gorsuch claimed the coach's First Amendment rights were violated, and that he was merely engaging in "quiet personal prayer" as he knelt.Gorsuch uses the word "quiet" 14 times, as The Washington Post's Paul Waldman notes."Joseph Kennedy lost his job as a high school football coach because he knelt at midfield after games to offer a quiet prayer of thanks," Justice Gorsuch writes as he begins his majority opinion. "Mr. Kennedy prayed during a period when school employees were free to speak with a friend, call for a reservation at a restaurant, check email, or attend to other personal matters. He offered his prayers quietly while his students were otherwise occupied. Still, the Bremerton School District disciplined him anyway. It did so because it thought anything less could lead a reasonable observer to conclude (mistakenly) that it endorsed Mr. Kennedy's religious beliefs. That reasoning was misguided.""The contested exercise here does not involve leading prayers with the team," Gorsuch continues (despite photos that appear to suggest otherwise), "the District disciplined Mr. Kennedy only for his decision to persist in praying quietly without his students after three games in October 2015."These are the photos of Coach Kennedy that Justice Sonia Sotomayor included in her dissent:[Continues . . .]