My wife was always against me having a hand gun, so I never pressed the issue. However, with the rise of militia groups loyal to Trump, she has changed her mind and has no problem with me having one. This was emphasized by the plot by a right-wing fringe group to kidnap and execute the governor of Michigan (which Trump has yet to criticize or condemn). So now I have a Glock 9mm, as well as a single shot .22 rifle. Not much against the AR15s that are common in my state, but at least I can fire back. This is the first time I've felt concerned about the reaction to an election, and now that Trump is going off the rails and Trump Brown Shirts are parading in the streets with flags on their trucks, I'm getting a bit nervous. Trump is now calling for Biden to be indicted. Can you say "Banana Republic"? This is going to get nasty.
its a new experience for me to see an elected leader disregard the democratic process so publicly.
i hate nazi comparisons byt i keep thinkinh of 1930s germany too.
it does look like he will lose the election. whether he chooses to try to cancel the results tbrough civil unrest is a big question. hes very clear that he is willing to try.
i keep weapons in the house because i live in an isolated oocation in the country, but im having a hard time envisioning an armed rebellion. we have millions of trained veterans in the country now but most of the militia people juzt appear to be idiots with guns- no training or clear goals
Bloody hell.
Quote from: billy rubin on October 09, 2020, 04:17:17 PM
we have millions of trained veterans in the country now but most of the militia people juzt appear to be idiots with guns- no training or clear goals
It's the idiots that worry me the most. They aren't trained and could fire at the slightest provocation.
Now that you own a gun you have to train to use it. Dry fire until you are very comfortable handling it and then head to the range, with ear protection. Some qualified instruction would go a long way as well.
OM
Asmo! >:(
This is why I gotta get me a gun too!
SIZ and I got sideways many months ago when I made a comment about bilirubin's concealed carriage of a firearm. I meant that comment as a poke at Billy, but it turned out pretty badly. :-[ The republican party sells fear as a trade. It's spilling over onto those of us who don't generally have a fear for the government. In spite of how I feel about the NRA, I'd recommend finding an NRA certified firearms instructor to help with proper training on your new firearm. NB: I was an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor when my sons were in the Cub and Boy Scouts. Primary interest for me: SAFETY. I despise what the NRA has become, in regards to the politics. They used to be all about safety with firearms.
Bruce I have a Jewish friend who almost never speaks. He lives in my bedroom and is very polite and unassuming. On the other hand when he speaks, it is with a thunderous voice. His name is Mossberg. His size is 12 gauge and his sputem is deadly when at short range. He is more practical, but noisier, than a handgun because he needs not have so accurate an aim to spread his most convincing persuasion. My friend is an unusual character because he has a pistol grip and has a pump action. He can speak six times in rapid succession. That is almost surely enough of his voice.
For longer range I kind of think that a rifle would be more appropriate....say a 30-06 or similar. A 22 hornet would also be a useful and practical tool for the better half. It does not kick much but it is most persuasive when in a critical life threatening situation which is an absolute unbelievable situation in our formerly peaceful, cooperative, and law abiding society.
My take on the "terrorist" situation is to capture them, castrate them so that their testosterone level might be drastically diminished such that they are no longer likely to be dangerous stupid dregs of the human sort. .
Quote from: Dark Lightning on October 10, 2020, 02:54:37 AM
SIZ and I got sideways many months ago when I made a comment about bilirubin's concealed carriage of a firearm. I meant that comment as a poke at Billy, but it turned out pretty badly. :-[ The republican party sells fear as a trade. It's spilling over onto those of us who don't generally have a fear for the government. In spite of how I feel about the NRA, I'd recommend finding an NRA certified firearms instructor to help with proper training on your new firearm. NB: I was an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor when my sons were in the Cub and Boy Scouts. Primary interest for me: SAFETY. I despise what the NRA has become, in regards to the politics. They used to be all about safety with firearms.
i dont remember that.
youcan poke me anytime you want.
not that way
well you know i said that the trumpanistas were mostly untrained fools. i think im going to have to take that back in light of the significant minority of people at theus capitol who seemed to know what they were doi g.
we ll have to see what trump does and to what extent there will be any continuation of civil unrest. i still carry a .380 in my pocket when i leave the house. not so much because of political issues but just because i live in a dangerous country.
better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
what a country.
Boys and their fucking toys. You say "my gun," I read "my penis." Whatever. Like you need a fucking gun. Grow up. Get a baseball bat.
You hunt, fine. Otherwise, give it up.
This is my rifle
This is my gun
This is for fighting
This is for fun
Quote from: No one on February 14, 2021, 09:12:16 AM
This is my rifle
This is my gun
This is for fighting
This is for fun
Exactly
well, ive been too close too many shootings.
my cousin died with seven bullets in his back in a university conference room.
eight people died and 23 were shot in a town i used to live in, on streets i drove on every day.
three people were killed and 17 wounded at a garlic festival i used to attend.
a man two cars in front of me at a stoplight had his head blown off with a 12 gauge slug.
i have no problems with people who believe violence will never touch their lives. my experience.has been different.
Quote from: billy rubin on February 14, 2021, 01:21:36 PM
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three people were killed and 17 wounded at a garlic festival i used to attend.
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Serves them right!
i was driving a dozen or so unscreened beehives through there one morning. didn't know th egarlic festival had started. the highway was blocked and the security wouldn't let me through. told me i had to drive into th parking lot with about a zillion people there and go out another entrance to get by.
driving unscreened beehives through a weekend crowd was not my first choice, but i went in and out pretty quick.
on another occasion i just parked by the guards and said
i'll wait.
in five minutes my truck was surrounded by a cloud of confused honeybees and the guards changed their minds.
Quote from: billy rubin on February 14, 2021, 01:21:36 PM
well, ive been too close too many shootings.
my cousin died with seven bullets in his back in a university conference room.
eight people died and 23 were shot in a town i used to live in, on streets i drove on every day.
three people were killed and 17 wounded at a garlic festival i used to attend.
a man two cars in front of me at a stoplight had his head blown off with a 12 gauge slug.
i have no problems with people who believe violence will never touch their lives. my experience.has been different.
I am sorry that you have had people close to you die by gun violence, truly. And I do not believe violence will never touch my life. It can touch any of ours. (I live in a very "shoot-y" neighborhood. In the summer, we hear gunfire nearby weekly.) But I don't think everyone having a gun is the answer. The killings you list may or may not have been prevented if everyone in the situation had a gun. And if everyone's got a gun, that in turn can lead to more violence and death, not necessarily for the initial perpetrator.
I really don't think owning a pistol is a penis fetish or sublimation. After all, lots of women enjoy target practice. It's fun to shoot, and if you need it for protection sometime, it's there. But, to each his/her own.
Quote from: Anne D. on February 14, 2021, 04:12:34 PM
I am sorry that you have had people close to you die by gun violence, truly. And I do not believe violence will never touch my life. It can touch any of ours. (I live in a very "shoot-y" neighborhood. In the summer, we hear gunfire nearby weekly.) But I don't think everyone having a gun is the answer. The killings you list may or may not have been prevented if everyone in the situation had a gun. And if everyone's got a gun, that in turn can lead to more violence and death, not necessarily for the initial perpetrator.
well, anne, you bring up important points. i don't think everyone should own a gun, as i know of morons who have accidents with them because they don't take them seriously or hurt people because they aren't mentally suited to own one in the first place. and its certainly true that if everyone had a gun, that s it might lead to more deaths and violence for those reasons. if you want, we might talk about what to do in this country, because i think gun violence in the united states is out of control. i am in favour of limiting access to semiautomatic weapons, for example, and i own three of them.
but all those people i mentioned who were killed didn't have a weapon, and were killed by an attacker who did. they had no means to defend themselves, and they died. in particular, the man who killed my cousin also killed two other university professors at the same time, the last one of whom he hunted down and killed at leisure. the only defense that man had was to hide under a table.
if i am ever in a similar situation, it may turn out well, or it may not. but i will have an option that he didn't, and it may save my life.
let me ask you this.
what would you do if you were that physics professor, hiding under a table and listening to the footsteps of a man walking down the hallway to kill you? and there was a loaded and cocked gun lying on the floor next to you?
would you reason that possessing that gun might or might not save your life, and having it available to you "might lead to more violence and death, and not necessarily to the original perpetrator?"
what you would do, in that situation?
this is not a trick question, and i am not trying to back you into some kind of corner. i am seriously interested in your opinion.
Quote from: billy rubin on February 14, 2021, 09:02:16 PM
Quote from: Anne D. on February 14, 2021, 04:12:34 PM
I am sorry that you have had people close to you die by gun violence, truly. And I do not believe violence will never touch my life. It can touch any of ours. (I live in a very "shoot-y" neighborhood. In the summer, we hear gunfire nearby weekly.) But I don't think everyone having a gun is the answer. The killings you list may or may not have been prevented if everyone in the situation had a gun. And if everyone's got a gun, that in turn can lead to more violence and death, not necessarily for the initial perpetrator.
well, anne, you bring up important points. i don't think everyone should own a gun, as i know of morons who have accidents with them because they don't take them seriously or hurt people because they aren't mentally suited to own one in the first place. and its certainly true that if everyone had a gun, that s it might lead to more deaths and violence for those reasons. if you want, we might talk about what to do in this country, because i think gun violence in the united states is out of control. i am in favour of limiting access to semiautomatic weapons, for example, and i own three of them.
but all those people i mentioned who were killed didn't have a weapon, and were killed by an attacker who did. they had no means to defend themselves, and they died. in particular, the man who killed my cousin also killed two other university professors at the same time, the last one of whom he hunted down and killed at leisure. the only defense that man had was to hide under a table.
if i am ever in a similar situation, it may turn out well, or it may not. but i will have an option that he didn't, and it may save my life.
let me ask you this.
what would you do if you were that physics professor, hiding under a table and listening to the footsteps of a man walking down the hallway to kill you? and there was a loaded and cocked gun lying on the floor next to you?
would you reason that possessing that gun might or might not save your life, and having it available to you "might lead to more violence and death, and not necessarily to the original perpetrator?"
what you would do, in that situation?
this is not a trick question, and i am not trying to back you into some kind of corner. i am seriously interested in your opinion.
Sure I'd pick up and use the random gun that was laying there in the hypothetical you pose. And I'd try to kill the pyschopath. I don't know that that proves anything.
I'm tired of the American male (and it's largely male) fetishizing of guns. Icarus's post below is an example. But it's also there in the following:
"we ll have to see what trump does and to what extent there will be any continuation of civil unrest. i still carry a .380 in my pocket when i leave the house. not so much because of political issues but just because i live in a dangerous country.
better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
what a country."
So many American men just seem to be itching for their Charlie Bronson Death Wish fantasies to come true. And it's not just the Trumpanistas who were at the Capitol last month.
what it proves is that using a gun for self defense is okay with your system of values, anne. if its okay to use a gun, then i think its self evident that it must also be okay to have a gun available to use.
i disagree with you on motives for carrying one; but i'm thinking your experience has been different and has led you to a different opinion.
i carry a gun because its common sense. no need for any more justification than that.
Quote from: Anne D. on February 15, 2021, 02:28:16 AM
So many American men just seem to be itching for their Charlie Bronson Death Wish fantasies to come true. And it's not just the Trumpanistas who were at the Capitol last month.
I can't speak for every American man but in my case I certainly don't want to be involved in
any sort of violence. I don't want to fight anyone, I don't want to shoot anyone, and the thought of smashing someone's skull in with a baseball bat is truly horrifying.
That said, I have been involved in
real violence on several occasions and have seen the aftermath on others. My experience is what leads me to carry a firearm as well as pepper spray everywhere I possibly can. I train to use that firearm, and the pepper spray, and hands on skills.
I try to abide by the Rule of Stupid - don't go stupid places at stupid times with stupid people - but there are times when the stupid finds you. Over the summer an angry patron attempted to kick in our door after closing so he could kill some of our staff. When the door wouldn't give he voiced his desire to grab his can of gas to burn the building down. Fortunately the police arrived before he made it inside the building.
there are definitiely people in my neighborhood w6who shouldn't own a gun. my neighbor up the road is a really nice guy, quite timid. but now that he owns a semiautomatic pistol he watches strange cars on the road and follows them around to see what they are up to. he also carries a small 32 caliber revolver in his pocket, of all things. has probably never shot either one.
my nearest neighbor wears a giant pistol on his hip when he drrves around in his ute in th eevenings. i asked him why he carried a gun and he toldme it was to protect himself from the bears. there are more bigfoots around here than bears.
the man who rents the pasture to the north carries a concealed weapon without a permit and brags about shootingb at traffic on my road that offends him. he's the guy that i look out for, because he is not intelligent and actually shoots the thing at people. he has had conversations with the local sherriff, but not enough of them.
its a difficult question. not one of these three people expresses a reasonable argument for carrying a deadly weapon, and two are not responsible, in my opinion. i have no problem with requiring serious competency tests for owning weapons, but the american constitution excludes that. i'm always interested in hearing suggestions for what we should do, but the unreasonable stuff from either endpoint of th econversation doesn't offer any solutions.
Quote from: billy rubin on February 15, 2021, 06:27:13 PMi'm always interested in hearing suggestions for what we should do, but the unreasonable stuff from either endpoint of th econversation doesn't offer any solutions.
I have no suggestions.
I find your squeamish attitude towards screen violence a bit... Quaker, and then there is your acceptance of weapons designed to kill humans, interesting.
yes. its a contradictio n ive been working through for a long time. no answer to it, really, in the end
back when i was religious it was a lot easier, because i believed in right and wrong, very clear cut. pacifism good, force bad. good, evil. etc . . . now im in that odd world where i dont believe in morality at all, but choose to live my life as if i did.
so in my case, i step back to the only source of morality thats makes any sense, natural selection, even though i don't give it any more genuine value than any other. that means i work hard to defend my kin, like my family, and don't work as hard to defend non-kin, like the far away kids starving in yemen. i am not aggressive or antagonistic to people, which is a relic of my former religion, but i would certainly shoot someone who threatened my kids, which is instinctive.
no answer there. the position i've described is based on reason, which itself is a cultural illusion. i just muddle along, mostly.
those lou reed lyrics are disturbing, no? or aren't they?
I have been reading this thread with a kind of academic interest. I live in a country where the likelihood of someone shooting me is virtually non-existent. Most people who do get shot here are members of the criminal underworld so it does not effect me. Essentially if you play with fire you will get burnt. Sure there are occasional incidents of mentally ill people going off the rails, but that is so rare that it can basically be ignored. You're more likely to be run over crossing the road.
Although I have never understood the American fetish for guns, I'm not scared of them. I have fired quite a few different types of firearms from hand guns, rifles and even, when I was in the Navy, submachine guns. If I lived in the country I might well own a rifle for shooting deer, bunnies etc and I would consider joining a pistol club. What I would never think of doing in million years is carrying a weapon for "protection". When not in use for its intended purpose, any weapon I might own would be safely locked away in a secure gun cabinet with the ammunition and bolt stored in a separate secure cabinet. I don't see how the USA can ever solve its firearms problem until the purchase and possession of them is strictly controlled and the insane idea of open carry and concealed carry are abolished.
I am sure that many in the 2nd amendment at any cost brigade will assume this is some sort of left wing "take all our guns" idea. Well, some of your guns DO need to be taken. I see absolutely no sensible reason for members of the public having assault style weapons of any sort. As for other long arms, if it was up to me these would be limited to bolt action rifles with a limit of 5 rounds in the magazine. I pride myself on the accuracy of my shooting and as far as I am concerned if you need more than that to shoot a deer or a rabbit or whatever, you either need more training or should not be allowed to possess a gun.
I am so tired of reading about people being shot in America. It is so senseless and serves only to spread sadness and misery. Wake up!
I'm an American and I don't understand our national gun fetish either, nor do I think they're "sexy" and really don't understand what people who do are going on about.
On the other hand, I was raised with the idea that a gun is, or can be, a useful tool for defense of self and others, and was taught how to shoot one as a girl. I have thought sometimes in the last 4 years that a gun might be good to have, just in case, but then so many things make my having a gun seem more symbolic than practical. My aim, for one, which has just gotten worse over the years along with my eyesight.
As far as other forms of weapons go, I do have one of my Dad's old golf clubs but frankly don't think that would do me much good either, and certainly not against someone armed with a gun.
I was sort of raised in the gun culture. My dad bought a .38 revolver for protection in the home, and one of my friend's dad had a deer rifle he used to hunt with. But all I've ever used mine for is shooting at paper targets as a skill exercise. I shoot at the Distinguished Expert level for light rifle, which means I get 192+/200 points into the targets. Actually my average is a little over 196/200, so that means that I can hit a 5/16" circle at 50 feet with only 4 hits outside that ring...and they are just outside. At 50 yards it means "I can put your eye out, kid!", if you were standing still. I don't ever expect to have to shoot anyone, and probably wouldn't even in a home invasion. Too much other shit around to use, though less lethal. I don't live in an unsafe city, in fact I live in one of the safest. When I lived in high crime reporting districts, I still kept my guns locked up and hidden away.
5/16-inch at 50 yards is way impressive. i couldn't do that with a bazooka.
sandra, in most self-defense situations match-quality aim isn't really an issue, because things are very close. if it isn't close it's not self-defense. if you do decide to pick up the option again, there are classes available that can re-acquaint you with what is available these days and also give you insight on legal responsibilities.
Quote from: billy rubin on February 18, 2021, 02:21:29 AM
5/16-inch at 50 yards is way impressive. i couldn't do that with a bazooka.
sandra, in most self-defense situations match-quality aim isn't really an issue, because things are very close. if it isn't close it's not self-defense. if you do decide to pick up the option again, there are classes available that can re-acquaint you with what is available these days and also give you insight on legal responsibilities.
No, 5/16" at 50
feet. Though I have seen where some guys are able to make two shots at each target and have the hole appear to be single. One of my younger brothers was capable of
that, with some amount of regularity. There are competitions for that, but I'm not interested in spending the kind of money involved to do it. One time we (one of my brothers, one of my sons, and I) were at a gun range and some guy had some
expensive rifle, scope and gear and was shooting at a steel gong at 400 yards. He was sprinkling all around it. My brother pulled out his .44 Mag
pistol and nailed that target. That poor guy just packed up his stuff and left. :lol: That guy just needed some training and education. Just spending money for high end gear doesn't make a marksman. I've seen people who are "natural" shooters, but most people need a bit (or a lot) of coaching to be proficient. I went through the NRA Range Officer (Rifle and Shotgun) training course in '92 so that I could help my boys learn to shoot, and run the ranges. They were in the Boy Scouts at the time. My shooting skills improved quite a bit with that training.
i do not consider a reduction from fifty yards to fifty feet significant when we're talking about a 5/16-inch target.
i could not see a 5/16 target at fifty feet, much less come close to it with a bullet.
i am still impressed.
Quote from: billy rubin on February 18, 2021, 03:40:29 AM
i do not consider a reduction from fifty yards to fifty feet significant when we're talking about a 5/16-inch target.
i could not see a 5/16 target at fifty feet, much less come close to it with a bullet.
i am still impressed.
Well, I WAS using a scope, that has to count for something. I'm going to the ophthalmologist soon for a new eyeglass prescription that will allow me to shoot that well with open sights again. Maybe.
Though I guess that the 5/16" Vs 15/16" bullseye is kind of meaningless when one is shooting at center of mass in self defense. In my case, paper doesn't shoot back. Having an adversary similarly equipped as myself would reduce my marksmanship, I can assure you. The military used enfilade fire for a reason, though snipers have gained some "recent" notoriety.
We Americans have a long term love affair with guns. Possibly because the pioneers used long guns to kill game for subsistence, not sport. To our discredit we also used guns to kill lots of native Americans.
Back in the day....not too far back, it was not uncommon to have shooting galleries in the edges of business districts. Those were small spaces with some sort of projectile barrier behind the targets. The rifles were almost always 22s using 22 short ammunition. The patron paid somewhere between 10 and 25 cents for 5 or 10 shots at a target or sometimes beer bottles or tin cans. If the shooter hit the targets the specified number of times out of 5 or 10, he won a prize of some sort. These were popular places when year end holidays drew near. The prize was often a turkey. Think depression days and you can imagine how tempting it was to try to win a holiday bird for only a few pennies.
In the not so distant past, often there were shooting galleries that traveled with carnivals. The Carnie setup usually had some steel plates to erect at the back of the long tent. The bullets would cause a ringing noise when it hit the steel plate. That sound would attract more shooters to the gallery. The amazing thing is that there was almost never any problem with bystanders being shot or injured from wayward bullets or having some crazy dude going berserk. Just didn't happen.
I suspect that Papacito Bruno can attest to the madness in parts of Michigan when deer season arrives. There seems to be a deer slaying disease that actually causes some small manufacturing plants to close for a few days so that the "hunters" could haul ass to northern Michigan forests in search of Bambi. That is not a disease exclusive to Michigan. We have deer here in Florida. There are two hunting seasons. The first one is for Bow Hunters only. After that the gun season opens with the bow hunters safely gone home. I have little patience with gunner deer hunters and no patience at all for bow hunters. I do admire the bow hunters skill but I cannot get my mind wrapped around the bow kill that usually has to track the wounded animal and wait for it to bleed to death. I reckon that some of the animals with 30-06 wounds do not die immediately either. ...................
Way back in time, the Indian fighting wars advantaged the Indians. They could get off six or more arrows while the invaders were reloading their damned flintlocks or other single shot rifles. Samuel Colt and a few other inventive guys developed repeater handguns and rifles. Game over. The Indians lose now....... And here we are in a society who has far more guns than there are people.
Disclosure: I have a Mossberg 500 12 gauge. It has never been fired and I hope there is never any reason to do so. Locked in a drawer is a Hi Standard long barreled revolver. I never want to fire that one either.
icarus, ididn't even know high standard ever made revolvers. the old mossberg 500 is a standard gun out here for shooting deer. can't use any rifles except straight sided cartridges, so people use the 12 ga slugs. id love to buy an older winchester someday, but i'm not much of a hunter.
i used to o5wn a ruger security six 357 that i bought for hunting javelinas in arizona. javelinas are so blind you can only hunt them legally with a handgun or bow. never went hunting thoough. it was nice because it was stainless and i could wash it in a dishwasher.
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i like guns because im always interested in specialized mechanisms. racing motorcycles, antique pocket watches, bicycle deraillures, clocks, music boxes, that sort of stuff. i gave my number two son a simple flintlock pistol kit back when he was 13 or 14. those pistols themselves are wo5rks of art
(https://i.imgur.com/VtgExIF.jpg)
not hard to put together and finish, and so cumbersome to load that it isn't something that you can become distracted from, so they're much safer for kids than a revolver or semiauto
Billy we are afflicted with the same sort of disease. I am also thrilled with mechanisms that do some operation, or in some cases, no operation at all.
My father was a master machinist who also had a sense of humor. He used to make a little toy that he called a Bullshit grinder. It was a flat plate with two tee slots at right angles to one another. Like a cross. The slots would have a fitted sliding part in each of the tee slots. The sliding parts were attached to a flat bar, a handle, with a knob at the end. The handle extended over the edges of the flat plate. Turning the handle would cause the sliding parts to cross over one another in a fascinating way and the knob end of the handle would describe a perfect ellipse.
He also made some things that he called a "bull cinch". That was a ten inch ring of stainless steel rod with the end welded shut. The ring had a sliding part that might be imagined as a key on a key ring. The sliding part (key) was a single shaft of stainless with a reverse element that made the sliding part resemble a huge fish hook. The use of the thing was explained. thus" "You jam the hook up a bulls ass and toss the ring over a fence post. Then; "it is a cinch that the bull ain't going anywhere".
I suspect that Tank, DL, JJ and others could easily make a bullshit grinder from wood. It could be both pretty and functional. If a person begins to tell too many lies, then break out the grinder and make a few turns of the handle.
OOOPS! Unintentional derail. It is all Billy's fault.
Quote from: Icarus on February 20, 2021, 01:17:57 AM
Billy we are afflicted with the same sort of disease. I am also thrilled with mechanisms that do some operation, or in some cases, no operation at all.
My father was a master machinist who also had a sense of humor. He used to make a little toy that he called a Bullshit grinder. It was a flat plate with two tee slots at right angles to one another. Like a cross. The slots would have a fitted sliding part in each of the tee slots. The sliding parts were attached to a flat bar, a handle, with a knob at the end. The handle extended over the edges of the flat plate. Turning the handle would cause the sliding parts to cross over one another in a fascinating way and the knob end of the handle would describe a perfect ellipse.
He also made some things that he called a "bull cinch". That was a ten inch ring of stainless steel rod with the end welded shut. The ring had a sliding part that might be imagined as a key on a key ring. The sliding part (key) was a single shaft of stainless with a reverse element that made the sliding part resemble a huge fish hook. The use of the thing was explained. thus" "You jam the hook up a bulls ass and toss the ring over a fence post. Then; "it is a cinch that the bull ain't going anywhere".
I suspect that Tank, DL, JJ and others could easily make a bullshit grinder from wood. It could be both pretty and functional. If a person begins to tell too many lies, then break out the grinder and make a few turns of the handle.
OOOPS! Unintentional derail. It is all Billy's fault.
Further derail. I'm going to think about this, and maybe even make a grinder. If someone wants to do the jamming, I'll just watch. You do that to 1/2 ton of angry pot roast, you may get what you asked for. Special thanks to Professor Tom Lehrer for the "1/2 ton of angry pot roast".
This pretty racist, but also kind of funny-
https://genius.com/Tom-lehrer-in-old-mexico-lyrics (https://genius.com/Tom-lehrer-in-old-mexico-lyrics)
i remember bullshit grinders
they used to sell little tiny ones at the stuckey's highway tourist traps, thoseplaces that sold souvenir spoons and giant spun sugar lollipops
i do s NOt rememebr bull cinces and frankly i would hesitata to stick anything up a bulls ass
Quote from: Dark Lightning on February 20, 2021, 01:44:46 AM
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This pretty racist, but also kind of funny-
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ive never seen one this elaborate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9Y7TEAK4ao
make sure you wait for the end
Dammit Billy, now I may have to build one like that. The handle end of that thing must describe some interesting geometric traces.
I confess that I am captivated by the tracings of a Spiragraph toy. Well it is not a toy if you are into that sort of thing.
i looked at the animation again more clisely
the shuttle actually only traverses the two slots at right anes, so its really the same as a square one. i thought it was an escalation but i was wrong
My Gun (to the tune of "My Girl")
I've got bullets, for a crazy day
I've got ammo, for what comes my way
I guess you say
What can make me feel this way?
My gun, talkin' 'bout my gun (my gun)
When it's nuts outside, I'm safe within
When they storm D.C., I'm armed in my den
I guess you say
What can make me feel this way?
My gun, talkin' 'bout my gun (my gun)
Sorry, I don't know what came over me.
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on February 22, 2021, 03:33:41 PM
My Gun (to the tune of "My Girl")
I've got bullets, for a crazy day
I've got ammo, for what comes my way
I guess you say
What can make me feel this way?
My gun, talkin' 'bout my gun (my gun)
When it's nuts outside, I'm safe within
When they storm D.C., I'm armed in my den
I guess you say
What can make me feel this way?
My gun, talkin' 'bout my gun (my gun)
Sorry, I don't know what came over me.
:popcorn: Now to Black Eyed Peas' My Humps!
Whatcha gonna do with all that junk
All that junk inside your trunk
Imma get get get get you drunk
Get you love drunk with my gun
My gun my gun my gun my gun my gun
My gun my gun my gun my lovely little guns
Check it out
I got a semi in my 'Rari
Tactical Benelli for the party
They treat me really nicely
buy me all these nice things
Glock Ges and Beretta
Colt, see, and Chiappa
Rifles for the takin'
I won't lie I'm carrying five
Whatever I ain't askin'
They say second amendment
Ev'ryone sees
True religion
I say no
But they keep firin'
So I keep on firin'
And no I ain't takin'
Shit from those who ain't in
love and demonstrate it
My love my love my love my love
You love my lady guns
My gun my gun my gun
My guns they got you
She's got me spending
Oh, spending all your money on heat
And spending time on me
She's got me spending
Oh, spending all your money on heat
Uh on heat on heat
:shooty:
This is fun!
MACKLEMORE & RYAN LEWIS - THRIFT SHOP FEAT. WANZI'm gonna pop some caps
Only got 20 bullets in my pocket
I, I, I'm hunting, lookin' for a somethin'
This is fucking awesome
Walk into the club like: What up, I got a big Glock
I'm so pumped, I better git to a gun shop
Rifles and semis be so damn costly
People be like: Sell me an old ass antique
Rollin' in hella deep, click in the magazine
Impressed I think, when they spot my two weapons on me
Taped around my waist, buyin' a belt's not for me
Probably should've bought a belt, now the guns are taped
Pissed
But shit, it was 99 cents!
Wish I had bought it, wishin' it
Nice! You have talent!
Quote from: Ecurb Noselrub on February 23, 2021, 04:58:59 PM
Nice! You have talent!
Nah, just inspired boredom. :P I trip on music sometimes.