I have alot of good friends that are gay, lesbian and bi. Dated a couple bi chicks also. The way I see it, if it makes you happy, go for it. Just don't start making out in front of me, regardless if you're gay, lesbian, bi or straight.
EDIT: Split from "What do atheists think of Homosexuality."
Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 04, 2012, 05:10:19 PM
I have alot of good friends that are gay, lesbian and bi. Dated a couple bi chicks also. The way I see it, if it makes you happy, go for it. Just don't start making out in front of me, regardless if you're gay, lesbian, bi or straight.
In most civilised countries it isn't against the law to kiss in public, do you think it should be against the law?
Quote from: Stevil on February 04, 2012, 07:22:47 PM
Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 04, 2012, 05:10:19 PM
I have alot of good friends that are gay, lesbian and bi. Dated a couple bi chicks also. The way I see it, if it makes you happy, go for it. Just don't start making out in front of me, regardless if you're gay, lesbian, bi or straight.
In most civilised countries it isn't against the law to kiss in public, do you think it should be against the law?
Hell no! I don't mind kissing in front of me, but when tongue starts getting involved and they're feeling on each other, I start to get uncomfortable.
There you may have something to learn from The Senior.
Such displays don't faze me at all... I might even ogle a little if there is something in it I find worth ogling.
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 07:55:12 PM
There you may have something to learn from The Senior.
Such displays don't faze me at all... I might even ogle a little if there is something in it I find worth ogling.
That's something I don't really want to learn my friend lmao
Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 04, 2012, 07:58:26 PM
That's something I don't really want to learn my friend lmao
May be for the best...
People who know me in person usually regard me as cold because of the effort needed to provoke any kind of reaction, and it does apply to much more than public displays of traditionally private activities. That label has its disadvantages, especially while being nearly correct.
In any case, I think people are entitled to their right to be creeped out or otherwise made uncomfortable, as long as they don't try to legislate personal preferences.
Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 04, 2012, 07:42:18 PM
Hell no! I don't mind kissing in front of me, but when tongue starts getting involved and they're feeling on each other, I start to get uncomfortable.
I was riding on a bus once, and a couple of women in the seat in front of me started making out. The seats were so close together it was like they were in my lap and, yes, I was uncomfortable despite being a woman-kisser, and -groper, myself.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 04, 2012, 08:34:20 PM
I was riding on a bus once, and a couple of women in the seat in front of me started making out. The seats were so close together it was like they were in my lap and, yes, I was uncomfortable despite being a woman-kisser, and -groper, myself.
I'd probably look appreciatively enough at them to make
them uncomfortable :D
...Has been known to happen.
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:44:52 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 04, 2012, 08:34:20 PM
I was riding on a bus once, and a couple of women in the seat in front of me started making out. The seats were so close together it was like they were in my lap and, yes, I was uncomfortable despite being a woman-kisser, and -groper, myself.
I'd probably look appreciatively enough at them to make them uncomfortable :D
...Has been known to happen.
I lack sufficient Asmo essense for that.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 04, 2012, 08:46:41 PM
I lack sufficient Asmo essense for that.
Most people I know do. But then again... Most people I know are "regular" and "sane".
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 04, 2012, 08:34:20 PM
I was riding on a bus once, and a couple of women in the seat in front of me started making out. The seats were so close together it was like they were in my lap and, yes, I was uncomfortable despite being a woman-kisser, and -groper, myself.
I've had the same experience. Two women a bit older than me sat down right in front of me, and started making out like crazy. I promptly looked around for cameras, or for other couples kissing, since at first I thought I'd wandered haphazardly into an Improv Everywhere skit, similar to the 'No Pants Subway Ride'. Alas, nope, they were just two very... uh... enamoured gals going at it. And despite my own admiration and appreciation for the ladies, it obviously WASN'T the fact that it was two women. It was more the fact that I wondered if they'd land on me, and it was like being unable to tear your eyes away from a car wreck. Other people even moved out of their way... I was the only one still sitting there, with roughly this look on my face: :o
(I should add that while they were going at it, they were wearing pajamas. And Ugg boots. And still holding their grocery bags. So that was bizarre. Also, they weren't going at it quietly. In fact, they vocalized just enough that I should have filmed it, and made money off the spectacle!)
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:44:52 PM
I'd probably look appreciatively enough at them to make them uncomfortable :D
...Has been known to happen.
Had it been remotely sexy, I would have considered it. As it was, I couldn't have managed an appreciative look without laughing...
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
Most people I know do. But then again... Most people I know are "regular" and "sane".
Really?
What's that like?
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on February 05, 2012, 12:55:52 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
Most people I know do. But then again... Most people I know are "regular" and "sane".
Really?
What's that like?
Sounds boring.
Quote from: Budhorse4 on February 05, 2012, 01:23:05 AM
Quote from: The Magic Pudding on February 05, 2012, 12:55:52 AM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 04, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
Most people I know do. But then again... Most people I know are "regular" and "sane".
Really?
What's that like?
Sounds boring.
It is boring.
Oh, my inner circles only contain the less sane and more dynamic people, but you can count those on your fingers and would have some to spare.
The more you get to know a person the more you realise - they're utterly insane. :D Some people are just better at acting normal than others.
Quote from: Melmoth on February 05, 2012, 07:57:12 PM
The more you get to know a person the more you realise - they're utterly insane. :D Some people are just better at acting normal than others.
Ain't that the truth. It's a good thing I'm a decent actor. ;D
Just for the record, hand holding is okay, but I am totally against public displays of affection. It's really fucking gross (doesnt matter who you are.)
I get flustered kissing my gf on the lips to say "see you later hun" in public. But making out? No. I would definitely say something to that couple.
Weird... Am I the only one who is completely untouched by such displays here..? Wonder why?
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:08:57 PMWeird... Am I the only one who is completely untouched by such displays here..? Wonder why?
It is a bit complicated for me, it all depends on the amount of room in the general area and the proximity of the people, but what they're doing usually has no effect on the calculation. But since I do not like being touched, any physical contact of any kind is uncomfortable for me.
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:08:57 PM
Weird... Am I the only one who is completely untouched by such displays here..? Wonder why?
I think like davin says its different for everyone depending on the personal space. A public bus or elevator in my opinion just really seems tacky and shameless.
I dunno. I personally dont enjoy the spectacle, nor the sounds of 'sucking face'.
Better to ride an elevator with a happy-seeming couple sucking faces than with a bunch of people who try not to look at each other while wearing long-suffering expressions.
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
Better to ride an elevator with a happy-seeming couple sucking faces than with a bunch of people who try not to look at each other while wearing long-suffering expressions.
But their suffering gives me strength!
I'm a weirdo who actually enjoys the long akward silences in elevators.
It's only irritating when out of nowhere the person gets off with a "have a nice day! :) " and i'm like "wtf...??"
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:08:57 PM
Weird... Am I the only one who is completely untouched by such displays here..? Wonder why?
Your not the only one.
Quote from: Crow on February 06, 2012, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:08:57 PM
Weird... Am I the only one who is completely untouched by such displays here..? Wonder why?
Your not the only one.
Good. Was beginning to wonder. :D
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:23:24 PMBetter to ride an elevator with a happy-seeming couple sucking faces than with a bunch of people who try not to look at each other while wearing long-suffering expressions.
It doesn't bother me either way, so long as their proximity is proportionate to my ideal and they're not touching me.
unconciously extrovert
in a park in England, behind a bush and by an orchard tree there was a sunny May day.
Me and a passionate warm Irish lass were making out, and i wanted to show her yogi tree-hanging stances.So, there we were for 20 min changing liking, thrusting and coming.
At culmination while we hugged sitting on the grass, we were interrupted in our serenity bu shouting clapping and cheering.
as it was from an opening in one angle, we had a clear view ~ 80 meters on the adjacent hilltop to a company of 5 boys and 4 girls who watched while picknicking and drinking in earnest and at the end gave us a standing ovation.
i have no moral problem to people making out in public
Unless children are involved which perplexes the issue and is not a good idea,
if i am currently covered with a partner i get exited watching and hurry to the partner to "share" the idea.
If I am not currently covered with a partner i get upset and angry at me and my predicament as the spectacle reminds me of my lack.
all this emotion is not Moral
there is NO indecent exposure, only circumstancially inappropriate exposure
Quote from: pytheas on February 06, 2012, 07:04:38 PM
in a park in England...
Its what they were made for. Picnics, footy, underage binge drinking, and displays of public fornication.
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:08:57 PM
Weird... Am I the only one who is completely untouched by such displays here..? Wonder why?
No. I don't really care as long as they don't touch me. Not that I'm even really big on the whole "Don't touch me!" thing like some people are. I don't mind being touched in general, but being touched by someone that was making out with someone else might be weird.
Quote from: Ali on February 06, 2012, 11:33:07 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:08:57 PM
Weird... Am I the only one who is completely untouched by such displays here..? Wonder why?
No. I don't really care as long as they don't touch me. Not that I'm even really big on the whole "Don't touch me!" thing like some people are. I don't mind being touched in general, but being touched by someone that was making out with someone else might be weird.
Exactly. And that's the only reason I was kinda startled on the bus. They were right next to me, and they were strangers doing something pretty intimate, on a public bus, within arms length of me. Had my daughter been there with me, I imagine I would have had some interesting explaining to do. ;)
Public displays of affection in general don't bother me at all. I can walk past two people kissing on a street corner or making out on a park bench, and think nothing of it. Heck, I've done both myself. ;D It's just that I wouldn't personally do those things when I was practically touching shoulders with strangers, so I'm always a bit surprised when others seem to have no issue with it. My only exception is New Year's Eve. I LOVE New Year's, it's prettymuch a favourite holiday, and if I happen to be jam packed elbow to elbow in a crowd waiting for a countdown, I don't care who's touching me... at midnight I'm kissing my sweetie, and that's that!
Quote from: Sweetdeath on February 06, 2012, 05:26:53 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
Better to ride an elevator with a happy-seeming couple sucking faces than with a bunch of people who try not to look at each other while wearing long-suffering expressions.
But their suffering gives me strength!
I'm a weirdo who actually enjoys the long akward silences in elevators.
It's only irritating when out of nowhere the person gets off with a "have a nice day! :) " and i'm like "wtf...??"
I'm fine with uncomfortable silences too, not good with the talking. But I am tempted, when somebody says "have a nice day!" to say "up yours!" in the same friendly tone.
LOL Books cats. :)
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 07, 2012, 01:08:37 AM
Quote from: Sweetdeath on February 06, 2012, 05:26:53 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on February 06, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
Better to ride an elevator with a happy-seeming couple sucking faces than with a bunch of people who try not to look at each other while wearing long-suffering expressions.
But their suffering gives me strength!
I'm a weirdo who actually enjoys the long akward silences in elevators.
It's only irritating when out of nowhere the person gets off with a "have a nice day! :) " and i'm like "wtf...??"
I'm fine with uncomfortable silences too, not good with the talking. But I am tempted, when somebody says "have a nice day!" to say "up yours!" in the same friendly tone.
I'm one of those people you'd say 'up yours' to, then. :P If I run into a stranger in public who looks friendly, I'm liable to make small talk, comment on the weather, or just sincerely wish them a great day. I never mean anything odd by it, other than hoping that the person I'm standing next to actually has a decent day. Can I ask you why it annoys you? Most people saying it would probably mean it sincerely, so I dunno. :) If someone says it to me, I just say 'thanks, you too!'
Quote from: Amicale on February 07, 2012, 02:21:50 AM
I'm one of those people you'd say 'up yours' to, then. :P If I run into a stranger in public who looks friendly, I'm liable to make small talk, comment on the weather, or just sincerely wish them a great day. I never mean anything odd by it, other than hoping that the person I'm standing next to actually has a decent day. Can I ask you why it annoys you? Most people saying it would probably mean it sincerely, so I dunno. :) If someone says it to me, I just say 'thanks, you too!'
I honestly don't know why it brings out a hostile reaction in me, and it's not because I'm one of those people who thinks they're being told what to do or how to feel -- I know I'm not being given instructions of any kind, I know the other person is just being friendly, but it grates. In any case, you probably wouldn't say it to me because I doubt I'd look friendly enough for it.
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 07, 2012, 04:49:17 AM
Quote from: Amicale on February 07, 2012, 02:21:50 AM
I'm one of those people you'd say 'up yours' to, then. :P If I run into a stranger in public who looks friendly, I'm liable to make small talk, comment on the weather, or just sincerely wish them a great day. I never mean anything odd by it, other than hoping that the person I'm standing next to actually has a decent day. Can I ask you why it annoys you? Most people saying it would probably mean it sincerely, so I dunno. :) If someone says it to me, I just say 'thanks, you too!'
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I honestly don't know why it brings out a hostile reaction in me, and it's not because I'm one of those people who thinks they're being told what to do or how to feel -- I know I'm not being given instructions of any kind, I know the other person is just being friendly, but it grates. In any case, you probably wouldn't say it to me because I doubt I'd look friendly enough for it.
I can relate to this kind of reaction. It has to do with the complete insincerity that usually accompanies those kinds of trite phrases. Like the "How are you?" and "Good, thanks" interactions we have every day without any real thought. I've actually taken to replying "Terrible. Yourself?" just to catch them off guard. I know it's something of an evil necessity, a kind of social lubricant that lets us ease into whatever interaction we were really trying to get to, or feel that we must say to avoid looking like a prick. But then who says we can't have a little fun with different flavors? :D
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on February 07, 2012, 04:49:17 AM
I honestly don't know why it brings out a hostile reaction in me, and it's not because I'm one of those people who thinks they're being told what to do or how to feel -- I know I'm not being given instructions of any kind, I know the other person is just being friendly, but it grates. In any case, you probably wouldn't say it to me because I doubt I'd look friendly enough for it.
If you looked like this while standing on an elevator with me...
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....you're right, I wouldn't wish you a nice day, I'd get the hell off the elevator ASAP. :D
Quote from: Dobermonster on February 07, 2012, 05:36:53 AM
I can relate to this kind of reaction. It has to do with the complete insincerity that usually accompanies those kinds of trite phrases. Like the "How are you?" and "Good, thanks" interactions we have every day without any real thought. I've actually taken to replying "Terrible. Yourself?" just to catch them off guard. I know it's something of an evil necessity, a kind of social lubricant that lets us ease into whatever interaction we were really trying to get to, or feel that we must say to avoid looking like a prick. But then who says we can't have a little fun with different flavors? :D
I've worked with the public generally for years in a variety of different roles, including education, home care, and customer service. While it's true that on a really tired, busy, crazy day you MIGHT ask someone 'how are you?' just because it's the role you're in/your job to welcome them.... generally speaking, if I ask someone "how are you?" I mean it. I've had people like you answer "terrible. You?", and if at all possible, I take the time to actually ask them why they're doing terribly and if they'd like to talk about it -- if they don't want to, I wish them well and sincerely tell them I hope things go a lot better. So if you did that to catch me off guard or throw me off, I'd probably catch YOU off guard. ;D
Although, sometimes when someone asks me how I am, I DO also definitely have a little fun with different flavours. Among my favourite answers are "still above room temperature!", "still on this side of the soil!" and "the voices in my head tell me I'm doing great!".... and then I wait for the reactions!
Quote from: Dobermonster on February 07, 2012, 05:36:53 AM
[I can relate to this kind of reaction. It has to do with the complete insincerity that usually accompanies those kinds of trite phrases.
When I thought about it more, the thing that grated on me was a sense that the person speaking was smug or mocking. I can't imagine Amicale speaking in that tone of voice, so perhaps I'd just respond to her with a watery smile.
Quote from: Amicale on February 07, 2012, 05:39:08 AM
If you looked like this while standing on an elevator with me...
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....you're right, I wouldn't wish you a nice day, I'd get the hell off the elevator ASAP. :D
That does rather resemble me on one of my moody days.
Quote from: Amicale on February 07, 2012, 05:44:35 AM
Although, sometimes when someone asks me how I am, I DO also definitely have a little fun with different flavours. Among my favourite answers are "still above room temperature!", "still on this side of the soil!" and "the voices in my head tell me I'm doing great!".... and then I wait for the reactions!
I've occasionally given the "terrible" response to "how are you?" and gotten "that's great" in reply. I'm not sure if they meant it was great or just weren't listening.
Quote from: Amicale on February 07, 2012, 05:44:35 AM
Quote from: Dobermonster on February 07, 2012, 05:36:53 AM
I can relate to this kind of reaction. It has to do with the complete insincerity that usually accompanies those kinds of trite phrases. Like the "How are you?" and "Good, thanks" interactions we have every day without any real thought. I've actually taken to replying "Terrible. Yourself?" just to catch them off guard. I know it's something of an evil necessity, a kind of social lubricant that lets us ease into whatever interaction we were really trying to get to, or feel that we must say to avoid looking like a prick. But then who says we can't have a little fun with different flavors? :D
I've worked with the public generally for years in a variety of different roles, including education, home care, and customer service. While it's true that on a really tired, busy, crazy day you MIGHT ask someone 'how are you?' just because it's the role you're in/your job to welcome them.... generally speaking, if I ask someone "how are you?" I mean it. I've had people like you answer "terrible. You?", and if at all possible, I take the time to actually ask them why they're doing terribly and if they'd like to talk about it -- if they don't want to, I wish them well and sincerely tell them I hope things go a lot better. So if you did that to catch me off guard or throw me off, I'd probably catch YOU off guard. ;D
Although, sometimes when someone asks me how I am, I DO also definitely have a little fun with different flavours. Among my favourite answers are "still above room temperature!", "still on this side of the soil!" and "the voices in my head tell me I'm doing great!".... and then I wait for the reactions!
Don't get me wrong, I know there are people who ask the question genuinely. Being a nurse, it's literally my job to do that. And I do recognize the people who respond to "Terrible" with sincere interest or concern. However - and maybe it's an unfortunate side effect of Canadian uber-politeness - my observation is that the majority of askers don't. Of course I'm guilty of being trite from time to time - the social lube is a slippery slope.
(Jots down your answers for future use) ;D
This PDA discussion appears to have taken on a life of its own so I split it off.
It's okay Amicale. You can come to Denver and make small talk with me. I usually don't initiate small talk with strangers, but I'm happy enough to chat with people if they start talking to me. I'm friendly looking too; I almost always try to smile at people when I make eye contact with them.
Quote from: Amicale on February 07, 2012, 05:39:08 AM
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:o Where can get?!
I thought someone hacked my account and started this thread.
Quote from: Asmodean on February 07, 2012, 04:24:35 PM
Quote from: Amicale on February 07, 2012, 05:39:08 AM
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:o Where can get?!
Mate a cat with a chupacabra.
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I just advise that you do so very, very carefully... :D
Now, that's one public display of affection I don't think I'd want to see...
Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 09, 2012, 01:33:40 AM
I thought someone hacked my account and started this thread.
:D
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Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 09, 2012, 01:33:40 AM
I thought someone hacked my account and started this thread.
:D
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Quote from: Asmodean on February 09, 2012, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Tank on February 09, 2012, 07:37:00 AM
Quote from: Mocha Chief on February 09, 2012, 01:33:40 AM
I thought someone hacked my account and started this thread.
:D
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Shit disturber :D!