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Title: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Tank on March 03, 2018, 07:43:58 PM
Jumping Spiders! (http://www.jumpingspiders.co.za/gallery.html)


Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Harmonie on March 03, 2018, 08:49:39 PM
These are the images that are supposed to make people think spiders are cute, aren't they? Well, I'm not seeing it - They are still creepy!
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Dave on March 03, 2018, 09:01:13 PM
Though I used to have a mild phobia about spiders, still don't like big ones, the little black and white jumping spiders we have in the UK have always intrigued me. There is usually one resident in the woodwork round the street door. They seem almost tame at times, have even had them jump onto a fingers when placed near them.

C'mon, Harmonie, unless you have a reall problem surely they are cute-ish?

How can you not like this?

https://youtu.be/d_yYC5r8xMI

Or this?

https://youtu.be/HPh_Gi7PCqs
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: joeactor on March 03, 2018, 09:13:05 PM
Quote from: Harmonie on March 03, 2018, 08:49:39 PM
These are the images that are supposed to make people think spiders are cute, aren't they? Well, I'm not seeing it - They are still creepy!

What about Lucas?

Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Harmonie on March 03, 2018, 09:28:20 PM
Quote from: Dave on March 03, 2018, 09:01:13 PMC'mon, Harmonie, unless you have a reall problem surely they are cute-ish?

How can you not like this?

...

The better question is how could I possibly like those?

Bugs, spiders, etc., etc. are just inherently gross and creepy to me.

Quote from: joeactor on March 03, 2018, 09:13:05 PM
Quote from: Harmonie on March 03, 2018, 08:49:39 PM
These are the images that are supposed to make people think spiders are cute, aren't they? Well, I'm not seeing it - They are still creepy!

What about Lucas?
...

I saw a video like that pop up on my FB a couple of weeks or so ago and... It's just trying too hard. I'm sorry, but it is.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Essie Mae on March 03, 2018, 11:58:18 PM
Quote from: Dave on March 03, 2018, 09:01:13 PM
Though I used to have a mild phobia about spiders, still don't like big ones, the little black and white jumping spiders we have in the UK have always intrigued me. There is usually one resident in the woodwork round the street door. They seem almost tame at times, have even had them jump onto a fingers when placed near them.

C'mon, Harmonie, unless you have a reall problem surely they are cute-ish?

How can you not like this?

https://youtu.be/d_yYC5r8xMI

Or this?

https://youtu.be/HPh_Gi7PCqs

I had to look that up Dave; never heard of such things - I thought you'd mocked it up. Not that I particularly want to share my planet with them; Australia and China can keep them although I'm delighted to have learned something new. 

And what's this about little black and white JUMPING spiders? I've never seen one here, so please don't let them escape from Gloucestershire. I'm not arachnophobic but I don't really like spiders. We had a huge house spider in the living room and Mr M carried down the hill; a distance of about 400 m; and let it go whereupon it ran off at great speed the way it had come. It didn't reappear at chez nous again though.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Icarus on March 04, 2018, 12:41:35 AM
Essie, spiders like the rest of us just trying to make a living. Mr. M was/is a compassionate man.  Smashing a spider is easy enough.  Transporting the arachnid to a more welcome place is rather exceptional behavior.

Way back in time I was terrified of spiders as if they were the grim reaper.  Over time I learned that they are merely insect like creatures who are simply doing what they must do to survive. Attacking humans is not one of their priorities or their need for survival.

I now leave them alone. Never has one of them threatened me. In fact they are inclined to rid my premises of other less welcome insects such as flies, roaches, and other ugly bugs.. 

I do draw the line against some of those bad assed spiders that live in Bluenoses territory.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: joeactor on March 04, 2018, 01:09:55 AM
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: No one on March 04, 2018, 02:33:33 AM
Are they worse than barking spiders?
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Tank on March 04, 2018, 08:08:34 AM
Quote from: No one on March 04, 2018, 02:33:33 AM
Are they worse than barking spiders?
No. Just quieter.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Bluenose on March 04, 2018, 12:02:55 PM
What about the peacock spider?

And remember these cute little guys are only about 3 or 4 mm long (just over 1/8 inch)

Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 04, 2018, 12:58:44 PM
Just remember:

(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28782807_1919179531457807_8811672930174894080_n.jpg?oh=da8e620de41deba0bdb9aaad9fbdf7df&oe=5B4281F7)

;)
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Dragonia on March 04, 2018, 05:00:13 PM
Holy crap! There are SO MANY KINDS!
I love bugs, but spiders make me .... um.... dance the crazy dance. Especially when they jump.  :bogey: :bogey: :shocked:
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 04, 2018, 05:20:40 PM
Quote
Quote from: joeactor on March 03, 2018, 09:13:05 PM
What about Lucas?
...

I saw a video like that pop up on my FB a couple of weeks or so ago and... It's just trying too hard. I'm sorry, but it is.

I think it's cute but yes, I agree, it is just trying too hard.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Harmonie on March 05, 2018, 03:32:18 AM
Curse this topic for putting creepy insect/spider videos in my recommended videos on YouTube.  :bleh:
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: hermes2015 on March 05, 2018, 04:11:22 AM
Come on guys! I would rather have a few spiders in my house that cockroaches or mosquitoes.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 05, 2018, 04:17:14 AM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 05, 2018, 04:11:22 AM
Come on guys! I would rather have a few spiders in my house that cockroaches or mosquitoes.

Me too. A million times more.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Bluenose on March 06, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
I was camping on the Murray River a couple of years ago.  We had erected a largish marquee and while most of the others went fishing I stayed in camp and during that time, I watched a jumping spider stalk a fly on the main tent pole.  He eventually jumped on and caught the fly.  Good on him, the flies were bloody annoying!
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Dave on March 06, 2018, 12:52:06 PM
Quote from: Bluenose on March 06, 2018, 10:12:19 AM
I was camping on the Murray River a couple of years ago.  We had erected a largish marquee and while most of the others went fishing I stayed in camp and during that time, I watched a jumping spider stalk a fly on the main tent pole.  He eventually jumped on and caught the fly.  Good on him, the flies were bloody annoying!

Stalking flies needs skill! I got a name on my RAF tour in Cyprus as being "The Fly Chopper". In the mess flies were a real pest. There was often a spot of food on the tsble and a fly going for it. Once they were occupied with feeding I would slowly move a table knife over them from behind. My rationale was that it is very hard to estimate the distance and speed of a "line", the edge of a blade in this case, coming towards you. It also does not create much air disturbance in front of it.

So, with the heel of the handle on the table as a pivot, behind the fly, slow movement down and a slam for the last half inch got about a 50% score.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 06, 2018, 10:26:19 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 05, 2018, 04:11:22 AM
Come on guys! I would rather have a few spiders in my house that cockroaches or mosquitoes.

Exactly, the building's spiders are my pest control crew.  If I see something scuttling along (which is a recurring problem since I live above a restaurant) I take a close look at it.  If it's a roach that's slipped thru the spiders nets, it's squished.  If it's a spider, it gets a salute and a "carry on".  And in allowing the spiders free run of my home, I haven't even heard a mosquito in decades, much less been bitten by one.

But in all honesty, I've always loved spiders and wouldn't bother them even if they didn't eat insects I don't like.  And I definitely think they're cute -- esp. the Afromarengo  coricea.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: hermes2015 on March 07, 2018, 05:46:50 AM
Quote from: Sandra Craft on March 06, 2018, 10:26:19 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 05, 2018, 04:11:22 AM
Come on guys! I would rather have a few spiders in my house that cockroaches or mosquitoes.

Exactly, the building's spiders are my pest control crew.  If I see something scuttling along (which is a recurring problem since I live above a restaurant) I take a close look at it.  If it's a roach that's slipped thru the spiders nets, it's squished.  If it's a spider, it gets a salute and a "carry on".  And in allowing the spiders free run of my home, I haven't even heard a mosquito in decades, much less been bitten by one.

But in all honesty, I've always loved spiders and wouldn't bother them even if they didn't eat insects I don't like.  And I definitely think they're cute -- esp. the Afromarengo  coricea.

My partner fears spiders, so whenever he sees one in the house, I am expected to kill it. I refuse to kill spiders - it just feels wrong to me. I always catch them in a glass, which I quickly cover with a sheet of paper, and then release them outside to do their good work in the garden.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Tank on March 07, 2018, 08:03:41 AM
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Dave on March 07, 2018, 08:17:57 AM
Quote from: Tank on March 07, 2018, 08:03:41 AM


Quite clever, bit more humane than a foot or rolled up newspaper!
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: hermes2015 on March 07, 2018, 09:06:06 AM
Quote from: Tank on March 07, 2018, 08:03:41 AM


I must get one of those. It appeals to the crypto-Jainist in me.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Dragonia on March 07, 2018, 01:08:24 PM
"Perfect for the arachnophobic pacifist"

Ha ha ha! I would probably use this handy little tool. It would be better than trying to squish this mama carrying her babies.
(https://i.imgur.com/mzdMnWO.jpg)
Been there, done that, made a thousand little orphan spiders go panic-mode in my hallway.
That was one of the creepy-crawly highlights of my life.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Dave on March 07, 2018, 02:05:40 PM
Quote from: Dragonia on March 07, 2018, 01:08:24 PM
"Perfect for the arachnophobic pacifist"

Ha ha ha! I would probably use this handy little tool. It would be better than trying to squish this mama carrying her babies.
(https://i.imgur.com/mzdMnWO.jpg)
Been there, done that, made a thousand little orphan spiders go panic-mode in my hallway.
That was one of the creepy-crawly highlights of my life.

I tried to brush off what I thought was a fluffball in the corner of the windiw. It exploded into what looked like a hundred tiny spiders going every which way at high speed!
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 07, 2018, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 07, 2018, 08:03:41 AM


Must get a mega-sized one for Bluenose.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Dave on March 07, 2018, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Sandra Craft on March 07, 2018, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 07, 2018, 08:03:41 AM


Must get a mega-sized one for Bluenose.

To catch him? Oh! Sorry, so he can catch Ozzie mega-poisonous arachnids.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 07, 2018, 05:15:14 PM


:couchhide:
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Icarus on March 08, 2018, 12:03:33 AM
Sheeesh Silver, Brazil has some bad assed critters.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 08, 2018, 12:56:49 AM
Quote from: Icarus on March 08, 2018, 12:03:33 AM
Sheeesh Silver, Brazil has some bad assed critters.

Not as bad assed as Australia's weird critters, I think!  The Goliath spider looks big, hairy and scary with those large fangs but it's not among the scariest, IMO. I think spiders that are smaller and less conspicuous and that can do more damage such as the Black Widow are the ones to look out for!

I've never been bitten by a tarantula but I have been close enough to a few who were threatened by my presence and started "shaving" their abdomen with their hind legs. When those hairs land on your skin it really hurts! You feel disorientated and the only thought on your mind is to leave the area as quick as you can. You don't see what's hurting you. Other than the pain, it does little lasting damage though, unless you breathe the hairs in I would imagine. It could possibly trigger an allergic reaction. :notsure:

*shudder*
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 08, 2018, 02:12:11 AM
Quote from: Dave on March 07, 2018, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Sandra Craft on March 07, 2018, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 07, 2018, 08:03:41 AM


Must get a mega-sized one for Bluenose.

To catch him? Oh! Sorry, so he can catch Ozzie mega-poisonous arachnids.

Now can't stop imagining a Bluenose-catcher.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 08, 2018, 10:24:19 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BgEYBsgHL9b/?r=wa1 (https://www.instagram.com/p/BgEYBsgHL9b/?r=wa1)
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Essie Mae on March 08, 2018, 11:28:41 PM
Quote from: hermes2015 on March 05, 2018, 04:11:22 AM
Come on guys! I would rather have a few spiders in my house that cockroaches or mosquitoes.

So true.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: joeactor on March 09, 2018, 11:47:45 PM
Jumping? What about raining?

Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: xSilverPhinx on March 10, 2018, 12:33:10 AM
^ I would like to know where in Brazil that was filmed so I can steer clear.  :P Imagine getting a few hundred of those in your hair?
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Sandra Craft on March 10, 2018, 04:59:13 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on March 10, 2018, 12:33:10 AM
^ I would like to know where in Brazil that was filmed so I can steer clear.  :P Imagine getting a few hundred of those in your hair?

I'm not sure it's happening right now -- the earliest mention I could find for Brazil was 2013.  There were also some baby spiders "ballooning" in Australia in 2015/2016.  When you're a spider, you take your fun where you can find it.
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Bluenose on March 10, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Dave on March 07, 2018, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Sandra Craft on March 07, 2018, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 07, 2018, 08:03:41 AM


Must get a mega-sized one for Bluenose.

To catch him? Oh! Sorry, so he can catch Ozzie mega-poisonous arachnids.

Aww, come on guys! Hardly anyone dies from spider bite in Aus these days! 
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Tank on March 10, 2018, 11:19:45 AM
Quote from: Bluenose on March 10, 2018, 11:15:28 AM
Quote from: Dave on March 07, 2018, 05:03:53 PM
Quote from: Sandra Craft on March 07, 2018, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: Tank on March 07, 2018, 08:03:41 AM


Must get a mega-sized one for Bluenose.

To catch him? Oh! Sorry, so he can catch Ozzie mega-poisonous arachnids.

Aww, come on guys!  Hardly anyone dies from spider bite in Aus these days! 

(https://goo.gl/images/tt8vfz)

All that means is that anti-venom is more readily availible!
Title: Re: Jumping Spiders!
Post by: Bluenose on March 10, 2018, 11:27:38 AM
Well, true.  But to be fair, you're probably more likely to be struck by lightening than get bitten by a dangerous spider.  Also, there's really only one species that's deadly, the Sydney funnel-web, which is pretty much confined to an area within 100 miles (160 km) of the Sydney CDB.  Mind you there are a few other species that can give a painful bite, as well as complications like necrotising skin ulcers, but hey, you'll get a great story you can tell the grandkids about why you had to have your leg cut off back in the day!   :grin: