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Title: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Tank on October 22, 2017, 10:50:10 AM
New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color (http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/10/new-gene-variants-reveal-evolution-human-skin-color)

QuoteMost people associate Africans with dark skin. But different groups of people in Africa have almost every skin color on the planet, from deepest black in the Dinka of South Sudan to beige in the San of South Africa. Now, researchers have discovered a handful of new gene variants responsible for this palette of tones.

The study, published online this week in Science, traces the evolution of these genes and how they traveled around the world. While the dark skin of some Pacific Islanders can be traced to Africa, gene variants from Eurasia also seem to have made their way back to Africa. And surprisingly, some of the mutations responsible for lighter skin in Europeans turn out to have an ancient African origin.

"This is really a landmark study of skin color diversity," says geneticist Greg Barsh of the HudsonAlpha Institute for Biotechnology in Huntsville, Alabama....
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Dave on October 22, 2017, 12:40:52 PM
There seems to be a kind of irony in an Alabama instituion reinforcing the concept that we are all really "black" under the skin . . .
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
QuoteAnd surprisingly, some of the mutations responsible for lighter skin in Europeans turn out to have an ancient African origin.

Racists aren't gonna like that! :chin:
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Tank on October 22, 2017, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: Dave on October 22, 2017, 12:40:52 PM
There seems to be a kind of irony in an Alabama instituion reinforcing the concept that we are all really "black" under the skin . . .

I noticed that too :)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 22, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
QuoteAnd surprisingly, some of the mutations responsible for lighter skin in Europeans turn out to have an ancient African origin.

Racists aren't gonna like that! :chin:
No, they're not.  :smileshake:
Some racists probably believe they come from that white boy, their lord and savior, Jesus Christ. 
Wait, he was Palestinian, wasn't he?  :notsure:
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Dave on October 22, 2017, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 22, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
QuoteAnd surprisingly, some of the mutations responsible for lighter skin in Europeans turn out to have an ancient African origin.

Racists aren't gonna like that! :chin:
No, they're not.  :smileshake:
Some racists probably believe they come from that white boy, their lord and savior, Jesus Christ. 
Wait, he was Palestinian, wasn't he?  :notsure:

He was a good Jewish boy before he got commercialised.
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 23, 2017, 01:26:41 AM
Quote from: Dave on October 22, 2017, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 22, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
QuoteAnd surprisingly, some of the mutations responsible for lighter skin in Europeans turn out to have an ancient African origin.

Racists aren't gonna like that! :chin:
No, they're not.  :smileshake:
Some racists probably believe they come from that white boy, their lord and savior, Jesus Christ. 
Wait, he was Palestinian, wasn't he?  :notsure:

He was a good Jewish boy before he got commercialised.
Either way, the racist pray to a middle eastern man.
Are they aware of this?  :eyebrow: You know--Considering how much they hate anyone who's not "white."
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Dave on October 23, 2017, 06:02:53 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 23, 2017, 01:26:41 AM
Quote from: Dave on October 22, 2017, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 22, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
QuoteAnd surprisingly, some of the mutations responsible for lighter skin in Europeans turn out to have an ancient African origin.

Racists aren't gonna like that! :chin:
No, they're not.  :smileshake:
Some racists probably believe they come from that white boy, their lord and savior, Jesus Christ. 
Wait, he was Palestinian, wasn't he?  :notsure:


He was a good Jewish boy before he got commercialised.
Either way, the racist pray to a middle eastern man.
Are they aware of this?  :eyebrow: You know--Considering how much they hate anyone who's not "white."
I remember seeing an old painted depiction of JC with blue eyes...
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 23, 2017, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Dave on October 23, 2017, 06:02:53 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 23, 2017, 01:26:41 AM
Quote from: Dave on October 22, 2017, 09:38:36 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 22, 2017, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2017, 02:51:10 PM
QuoteAnd surprisingly, some of the mutations responsible for lighter skin in Europeans turn out to have an ancient African origin.

Racists aren't gonna like that! :chin:
No, they're not.  :smileshake:
Some racists probably believe they come from that white boy, their lord and savior, Jesus Christ. 
Wait, he was Palestinian, wasn't he?  :notsure:


He was a good Jewish boy before he got commercialised.
Either way, the racist pray to a middle eastern man.
Are they aware of this?  :eyebrow: You know--Considering how much they hate anyone who's not "white."
I remember seeing an old painted depiction of JC with blue eyes...
I've seen those paintings of a blond haired, blue eyed Jesus Christ. The racists would still be praying to a blond haired, blue eyed Middle Eastern man.  :grin:
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Icarus on October 24, 2017, 01:11:53 AM
JC was actually a Scandinavian. Everyone knows that.
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Dave on October 24, 2017, 02:42:11 AM
Quote from: Icarus on October 24, 2017, 01:11:53 AM
JC was actually a Scandinavian. Everyone knows that.

Aryan? (Though that was a language group rather than a racisl type otiginally.)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 24, 2017, 04:23:55 AM
Quote from: Icarus on October 24, 2017, 01:11:53 AM
JC was actually a Scandinavian. Everyone knows that.
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Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Davin on October 24, 2017, 02:56:20 PM
Well, he was the son of god, who is obviously a white guy.
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 24, 2017, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 24, 2017, 02:56:20 PM
Well, he was the son of god, who is obviously a white guy.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F12%2Fof-course.gif&hash=81df00c534ba2799ca8b5128cfed141ac6dd0f72)
Obviously.
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Davin on October 24, 2017, 05:25:44 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 24, 2017, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 24, 2017, 02:56:20 PM
Well, he was the son of god, who is obviously a white guy.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reactiongifs.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F12%2Fof-course.gif&hash=81df00c534ba2799ca8b5128cfed141ac6dd0f72)
Obviously.
Seriously though, that is something my mother said in earnest.

I was brought up Mormon, and they have this very specific "inspired" version of Jesus. I'm sure you've seen it. Apparently many believe that the original conception of this light haired, white skinned, blue eyed Jesus was inspired by the holy ghost to give us an accurate image of what Jesus really looked like. I'm not sure if  that is official church lore, but I don't remember any one contradicting it.

(https://i.imgur.com/s5NAsmm.jpg)

Jesus was a Jew from 2000 years ago in the middle east, how can he look like the holy ghost inspired image? Well, because he is the son of heavenly father, who is perfect. And Jesus, being perfect, has white skin, light hair, and blue eyes.

The problem is, that when you travel down the road showing them the issues with problem, they come up with explanations to each objection. They tend to forget what they said before and will contradict themselves. The smarter they are, the longer they can go without contradicting themselves, but eventually they all do. And when you point out their contradictions, they say things like, "you're taking that out of context," "that's not what it meant," or my favorite, "you'll have to pray to god until you find the answer yourself,"

Sorry for the tangent, but to me it seems relevant to the the talk about Jesus' skin color.
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Dave on October 24, 2017, 05:57:13 PM
Quote"you'll have to pray to god until you find the answer yourself,"

:rofl:

(https://imgur.com/Ubq2qGy.gif)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 24, 2017, 07:06:57 PM
(https://scontent.fpoa13-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/22688647_1773644252710052_4515491089688130558_n.jpg?oh=9962c732de390c3514c39fbdc108ee04&oe=5A6212CC)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 24, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 24, 2017, 05:25:44 PM
...
Sorry for the tangent, but to me it seems relevant to the the talk about Jesus' skin color.

Speaking of gods and skin color...
Being a white god doesn't guarantee anything, Thor was a white god, and the poor guy has been reduced to fighting crime in NY City right next to other super heroes.
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fassets1.ignimgs.com%2F2002%2F12%2F19%2Fageofmyth_121802_005-480783_640w.jpg&hash=266f01c49c7a2d40bd84ab853b145418b21419fc)

(https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/9/50/52e82f2c1e2e6/landscape_xlarge.jpg)

Maybe when people get tired of Jesus in the future he will be reduced to a movie where he fights crime with kind words --in the streets of LA City.

~I'm going to hell for saying that, aren't I?  :sad sigh:
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Davin on October 24, 2017, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 24, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
~I'm going to hell for saying that, aren't I?  :sad sigh:
Would it really make any difference if you hadn't said it?
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 24, 2017, 08:42:41 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 24, 2017, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 24, 2017, 08:19:54 PM
~I'm going to hell for saying that, aren't I?  :sad sigh:
Would it really make any difference if you hadn't said it?
No.  :notsure:
I'm gonna go to hell anyways. :grin:
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 24, 2017, 09:18:11 PM
^^^
:lol:
I'm sorry for bragging.
I don't like to do that but sometimes I just have to.
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Davin on October 25, 2017, 02:29:52 PM
Judging by the people going to hell, and the people going to heaven... I'd rather go to hell.
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 04:18:05 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 25, 2017, 02:29:52 PM
Judging by the people going to hell, and the people going to heaven... I'd rather go to hell.
Me too.  :sad sigh:



I told my man that I was bragging about going to hell and he said, "Have you thought of the possibility that maybe hell is not gonna want you there?"  :lol:


>:(






:felix:








It's their loss.
:grin:
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Davin on October 25, 2017, 04:33:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JKhZus2.jpg)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 04:42:40 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 25, 2017, 04:33:40 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/JKhZus2.jpg)
(https://i.giphy.com/media/12MFMJ8elL3A76/giphy.webp)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 04:46:29 PM
And...
(https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/enhanced/webdr01/2013/4/6/13/anigif_enhanced-buzz-13070-1365268627-0.gif)

(https://media.giphy.com/media/4xD7O31KDQEU0/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Davin on October 25, 2017, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 04:46:29 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/4xD7O31KDQEU0/giphy.gif)
(https://media.giphy.com/media/jRpVypPV6MXW8/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Tank on October 25, 2017, 07:09:35 PM
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/461A/production/_87264971_jesus_bbc.jpg) (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35120965)
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
*Ahem***
Tank, I'm sorry I totally derailed your post.  :(
Please, forgive me.

Continue...
Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color.
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Tank on October 25, 2017, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
*Ahem***
Tank, I'm sorry I totally derailed your post.  :(
Please, forgive me.

Continue...
Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color.
It's a bloody miracle when a thread is not derailed  :grin:
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: Tank on October 25, 2017, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
*Ahem***
Tank, I'm sorry I totally derailed your post.  :(
Please, forgive me.

Continue...
Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color.
It's a bloody miracle when a thread is not derailed  :grin:
Yeah, man...
Where are the moderators?
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD5aiyWL.jpg&hash=dba010b068d5049d34e577726d0a46546aea1931)
Geesh!




:grin:
Title: Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 26, 2017, 12:39:55 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 08:05:37 PM
Quote from: Tank on October 25, 2017, 07:30:19 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 25, 2017, 07:27:31 PM
*Ahem***
Tank, I'm sorry I totally derailed your post.  :(
Please, forgive me.

Continue...
Re: New gene variants reveal the evolution of human skin color.
It's a bloody miracle when a thread is not derailed  :grin:
Yeah, man...
Where are the moderators?
(https://www.happyatheistforum.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD5aiyWL.jpg&hash=dba010b068d5049d34e577726d0a46546aea1931)
Geesh!




:grin:

(https://media.giphy.com/media/vnFB72LzHtO4o/giphy.gif)

:P