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Religion => Religion => Topic started by: Sandra Craft on September 07, 2016, 08:07:25 AM

Title: Things I'm Doing Before Going to Hell
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 07, 2016, 08:07:25 AM
More from one of my favorite Xtian bloggers:  Things I'm Doing Before Going to Hell (http://johnpavlovitz.com/2016/05/10/things-im-doing-before-going-to-hell/).

John Pavlovitz is a progressive, liberal Xtian -- the kind that conservative Xtians often swear don't exist, or at least are not real Xtians.  I know we're rather light on theist members of any kind right now, but I was wondering what some of them would think of this.

For atheist readers, if Xtianity in general were more like this would it change your opinion of the religion, even if the bible itself was unchanged?  (I'm still debating that one in my head)
Title: Re: Things I'm Doing Before Going to Hell
Post by: Recusant on September 07, 2016, 10:12:02 AM
There have always been good Christians. I question whether it's their religion that makes them so. Pretty much everything Pavlovitz says has long been propounded as ideals of Christianity (along with many things he doesn't say). Your "if" is a big one, and given that I have doubts whether the commendable ideals of Christianity actually help people to be better, I also doubt that my opinion of Christianity and Christians would change much if they focussed more on those ideals.
Title: Re: Things I'm Doing Before Going to Hell
Post by: Sandra Craft on September 07, 2016, 08:22:36 PM
Quote from: Recusant on September 07, 2016, 10:12:02 AM
Your "if" is a big one

Yeah, maybe too big.  I keep ping-ponging on it.