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Title: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: DeterminedJuliet on September 09, 2011, 04:51:36 PM
http://richarddawkins.net/articles/642927-children-are-indoctrinated-i-want-to-open-their-minds (http://richarddawkins.net/articles/642927-children-are-indoctrinated-i-want-to-open-their-minds)

"I'm very aware that people try to get their hands on children and indoctrinate them and I want to open their eyes, open their minds, show them the thrill of science — of really understanding so much of why we exist, why the universe exists, what life is."

Interesting read and may well be worth picking up when my little fella is a bit older. I was always given illustrated bibles and the like when I was a kid, it'd be nice to have an alternative  :)
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Stev13jay on November 02, 2011, 09:19:00 AM
Well growing up a roman catholic and getting my confirmation all of my youth I've been given l sorts of bibles and religious books its good to know that here are books I can give my child so he can know facts. Plus I love Richard dawkins work
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
That book should be in the teenage section.

Kdis should not be exposed to atheist ideas at such a tender age.

Dawkins..ins't sunshine and rainbows.

If he were a woman..Id say he would be a bitter, grizzled old hag.

I wouldn't want my kids to be around tehm (if I had any that is)
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Tank on October 03, 2017, 08:43:05 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
..

Kdis should not be exposed to atheist ideas at such a tender age.

...

What? They shouldn't be told the truth about the myths of our understandably ignorant ancestors. But it's ok to tell them the world is run by a genocidal maniac who fooled his pets into cursing all their descendants for eternity because they listened to a talking snake?
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Papasito Bruno on October 03, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
That book should be in the teenage section.

Kdis should not be exposed to atheist ideas at such a tender age.

Dawkins..ins't sunshine and rainbows.

If he were a woman..Id say he would be a bitter, grizzled old hag.

I wouldn't want my kids to be around tehm (if I had any that is)

Not only are you a troll, but you're a misogynistic troll at that, and a rather bad one. Is this the best you can do?

:yawn:
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2017, 09:18:58 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on October 03, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on October 03, 2017, 08:13:03 PM
That book should be in the teenage section.

Kdis should not be exposed to atheist ideas at such a tender age.

Dawkins..ins't sunshine and rainbows.

If he were a woman..Id say he would be a bitter, grizzled old hag.

I wouldn't want my kids to be around tehm (if I had any that is)

Not only are you a troll, but you're a misogynistic troll at that, and a rather bad one. Is this the best you can do?

:yawn:

Can't work out if that is misogyny or misanthropy.  :headscratch:

Later: oops, I meant "misandry"!
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Davin on October 03, 2017, 09:25:32 PM
Could we at least limit the amount of 5+ year old threads that are getting resurrected?

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I mean, that's textbook troll behavior.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Dave on October 03, 2017, 09:54:59 PM
Quote from: Davin on October 03, 2017, 09:25:32 PM
Could we at least limit the amount of 5+ year old threads that are getting resurrected?

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I mean, that's textbook troll behavior.

Also the large number of threads engaged, new or old. Sort of like stuffing a site in a "denial of service" attack.

Takes an able mind to do that, keep thinking up things and keeping track. Twisted yes,  but able. Suppose it is a kind of sad hobby.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Sandra Craft on October 04, 2017, 01:28:48 AM
Quote from: Father Bruno on October 03, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
Not only are you a troll, but you're a misogynistic troll at that, and a rather bad one. Is this the best you can do?

:yawn:

Misogynistic, anti-Semite -- I think the Sister is going down a list.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Bad Penny II on October 04, 2017, 12:59:48 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on October 04, 2017, 01:28:48 AM
Quote from: Father Bruno on October 03, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
Not only are you a troll, but you're a misogynistic troll at that, and a rather bad one. Is this the best you can do?

:yawn:

Misogynistic, anti-Semite -- I think the Sister is going down a list.

No no you don't understand her, she's beautiful.
Anyway that stuff doesn't matter because she likes dogs.
God won't let her have one though.
Or the pope.
Or Ma superior,
I'll ask her later.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Davin on October 04, 2017, 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: Dave on October 03, 2017, 09:54:59 PM
Takes an able mind to do that, keep thinking up things and keeping track. Twisted yes,  but able. Suppose it is a kind of sad hobby.
It has yet to be demonstrated that this poster can keep track of things. It has failed to have a civil discussion, so we can't tell if it is keeping things straight or not. It's posting "controversial" things that seem intended to rile us all up. It has yet to actually discuss anything it has said.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Recusant on October 04, 2017, 04:30:24 PM
Her participation in discussion has been disjointed, truncated, and littered with lame comments about atheists, but not completely lacking.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Sandra Craft on October 04, 2017, 10:42:35 PM
Quote from: Bad Penny II on October 04, 2017, 12:59:48 PM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on October 04, 2017, 01:28:48 AM
Quote from: Father Bruno on October 03, 2017, 08:47:28 PM
Not only are you a troll, but you're a misogynistic troll at that, and a rather bad one. Is this the best you can do?

:yawn:

Misogynistic, anti-Semite -- I think the Sister is going down a list.

No no you don't understand her, she's beautiful.
Anyway that stuff doesn't matter because she likes dogs.
God won't let her have one though.
Or the pope.
Or Ma superior,
I'll ask her later.

I wonder what the right sort of dog would be?  A quiet one certainly.  I think not too large either, so that it won't knock too many things over, or cause the Sister to break her vow of poverty with big bags of dog food.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
It seems highly divisive and politically driven.

Kids minds are just forming. Why would you indoctrinate them with such an offensive idea?

If I were a parent id lobby the local library to remove them from circulation
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 01, 2017, 04:32:41 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
If I were a parent...
:notsure: Maybe there is a god.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Tank on December 01, 2017, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
It seems highly divisive and politically driven.

Kids minds are just forming. Why would you indoctrinate them with such an offensive idea?

If I were a parent id lobby the local library to remove them from circulation

SisterAgatha

1 month of for trolling. If you come back and continue trolling the next ban will be permanent.

Tanks

Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 01, 2017, 04:43:59 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 01, 2017, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
It seems highly divisive and politically driven.

Kids minds are just forming. Why would you indoctrinate them with such an offensive idea?

If I were a parent id lobby the local library to remove them from circulation

SisterAgatha

1 month of for trolling. If you come back and continue trolling the next ban will be permanent.

Tanks

:frolic:
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 02, 2017, 01:05:33 AM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
If I were a parent id lobby the local library to remove them from circulation

Of course you would.  ::)
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Dave on December 02, 2017, 08:10:55 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 02, 2017, 01:05:33 AM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
If I were a parent id lobby the local library to remove them from circulation

Of course you would.  ::)

And we would not visit you in the prison or psychiatric hospital - whichever they decided was appropriate. Probably the latter.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Bad Penny II on December 02, 2017, 01:16:31 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM

If I were a parent id lobby the local library to remove them from circulation

And why aren't you a parent by now anyway?
You're not using birth control are you?
Why aren't you married with a kid for each year since you were 16?
It's what god wants of you.
You've some 'splain'n to do.

Shakes fist at Tank!!!
Now I'll have to wait a month to have my question ignored.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 03, 2017, 03:19:03 AM
Quote from: Dave on December 02, 2017, 08:10:55 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on December 02, 2017, 01:05:33 AM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
If I were a parent id lobby the local library to remove them from circulation

Of course you would.  ::)

And we would not visit you in the prison or psychiatric hospital - whichever they decided was appropriate. Probably the latter.

I have a better idea... :grin:
[spoiler](https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/400x/38151790.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 03, 2017, 03:23:47 AM
I just realized that SisterAgatha is not gonna answer  :sad sigh: ...well, she/he never did, so what's the difference? It's kinda like praying to a god, isn't it?  :snicker: Maybe that's where she/he learned this type of behavior.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Papasito Bruno on December 03, 2017, 01:08:43 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on December 03, 2017, 03:23:47 AM
I just realized that SisterAgatha is not gonna answer  :sad sigh: ...well, she/he never did, so what's the difference? It's kinda like praying to a god, isn't it?  :snicker: Maybe that's where she/he learned this type of behavior.

What if Sister Agatha is god?

I mean let's say god is up there or wherever and she's like, "I'm so tired of these sneering atheists, I'm going join this Happy Atheist Forum as a troll and put these people in their place"!

So she decides to cover herself by claiming to be a Catholic Sister when joining the forum, however.

Turns out god is just as bad being a troll as she is a god?
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 03, 2017, 10:54:25 PM
Quote from: Father Bruno on December 03, 2017, 01:08:43 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on December 03, 2017, 03:23:47 AM
I just realized that SisterAgatha is not gonna answer  :sad sigh: ...well, she/he never did, so what's the difference? It's kinda like praying to a god, isn't it?  :snicker: Maybe that's where she/he learned this type of behavior.

What if Sister Agatha is god?

I mean let's say god is up there or wherever and she's like, "I'm so tired of these sneering atheists, I'm going join this Happy Atheist Forum as a troll and put these people in their place"!

So she decides to cover herself by claiming to be a Catholic Sister when joining the forum, however.

Turns out god is just as bad being a troll as she is a god?

(https://storiesofworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/what-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 08, 2017, 11:59:34 PM

How come he/she gets suspended for this
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Recusant on December 09, 2017, 03:55:09 AM
Do you think pretending to be a Catholic sister is some sort of offense against the rules of this site, AngelOfDeath? How would you categorize this offense?
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 09, 2017, 04:18:28 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 09, 2017, 03:55:09 AM
Do you think pretending to be a Catholic sister is some sort of offense against the rules of this site, AngelOfDeath? How would you categorize this offense?

And, celibate. Don't forget, a "celibate catholic nun."
"I think pretending to be celibate, "for 3 mos straight" is some sort of offense against the rules of this site"....I don't know, I'm just saying.  :unsure:
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 09, 2017, 05:01:29 AM


LOL, i really have no idea
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 09, 2017, 05:03:41 AM


lol, who knows.  could be worse
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 09, 2017, 05:33:05 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 09, 2017, 05:03:41 AM
Quote from: Magdalena on December 09, 2017, 04:18:28 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 09, 2017, 03:55:09 AM
Do you think pretending to be a Catholic sister is some sort of offense against the rules of this site, AngelOfDeath? How would you categorize this offense?

And, celibate. Don't forget, a "celibate catholic nun."
"I think pretending to be celibate, "for 3 mos straight" is some sort of offense against the rules of this site"....I don't know, I'm just saying.  :unsure:

lol, who knows.  could be worse to pretend to be a promiscuous catholic nun?

No...no...Now that you mention it, maybe that's exactly what we need to attract new members.  :grin:

If we only had a promiscuous catholic father... :chin:
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Tank on December 09, 2017, 11:33:31 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 08, 2017, 11:59:34 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 01, 2017, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: SisterAgatha on December 01, 2017, 04:22:28 PM
It seems highly divisive and politically driven.

Kids minds are just forming. Why would you indoctrinate them with such an offensive idea?

If I were a parent id lobby the local library to remove them from circulation

SisterAgatha

1 month of for trolling. If you come back and continue trolling the next ban will be permanent.

Tanks

How come he/she gets suspended for this and not for pretending to be a celibate catholic nun for 3 mos straight?

SA could have been a comedy catholic nun and been a damn good laugh. It's not the persona that is the issue but the results of the use of that persona. If they try to deliberately troll other members that's the rule they are breaking. The rules are there to protect the members from abuse. Creating a false persona is not necessarily abusive. And to be honest my troll sense exploded on the first post from SA. It sort of perked up when you arrived and is now dozing with one eye slightly open :D
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Icarus on December 11, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
Trolls are fun for a little while, but not as a steady diet. Most of them do not, in the beginning, realize that they are matching wits with people who have faculties that may well be superior to their own. 

The puzzling part of the troll culture is that they appear to enjoy invading a den of hammers while they are nails.   Masochists .................?
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 12, 2017, 05:44:50 AM


i didn't know they had their own culture  :-*
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Dave on December 12, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 12, 2017, 05:44:50 AM
Quote from: Icarus on December 11, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
Trolls are fun for a little while, but not as a steady diet. Most of them do not, in the beginning, realize that they are matching wits with people who have faculties that may well be superior to their own. 

The puzzling part of the troll culture is that they appear to enjoy invading a den of hammers while they are nails.   Masochists .................?

i didn't know they had their own culture  :-*

Like fungi or bacteria are cultured?
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: xSilverPhinx on December 12, 2017, 11:15:30 AM
Quote from: Dave on December 12, 2017, 10:50:46 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 12, 2017, 05:44:50 AM
Quote from: Icarus on December 11, 2017, 10:55:58 PM
Trolls are fun for a little while, but not as a steady diet. Most of them do not, in the beginning, realize that they are matching wits with people who have faculties that may well be superior to their own. 

The puzzling part of the troll culture is that they appear to enjoy invading a den of hammers while they are nails.   Masochists .................?

i didn't know they had their own culture  :-*

Like fungi or bacteria are cultured?

:lol:
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 13, 2017, 07:43:50 PM
Dawkins should write a book called "Christmas bedtime stories for children of all ages".  In one chapter he could call "where do little children go when they die" and he could write about the decomposition process in detail, and how you don't really "go anywhere" when you die, and you're just wiped into nonexistence and eternal unconsciousness because you no longer exist.  I just think that would be hilarious.  Would it help the children go to sleep or have them  up all night worrying?   :lol:
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Davin on December 13, 2017, 07:54:19 PM
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Yep. SoooooOOOOoooooo funny.
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Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 13, 2017, 09:16:55 PM

Just create a mental image of the look of terror as you're reading the dawkins bedtime stories :lol:

dawkins isn't exactly a ray of sunshine :lol:
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 13, 2017, 09:50:48 PM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 13, 2017, 07:43:50 PM
Dawkins should write a book called "Christmas bedtime stories for children of all ages".  In one chapter he could call "where do little children go when they die" and he could write about the decomposition process in detail, and how you don't really "go anywhere" when you die, and you're just wiped into nonexistence and eternal unconsciousness because you no longer exist.  I just think that would be hilarious.  Would it help the children go to sleep or have them  up all night worrying?   :lol:

Oh, SisterAgatha, I mean, AngelFromHell, I mean, AngelOfDeath, (sorry), you are so funny!
Or, you could just tell the children about hell. "Would it help the children go to sleep or have them  up all night worrying?   :lol:"
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/848471660860538880/pevXVsIp.jpg)

Do you have any children, SisterAgatha, I mean, AngelFromHell, I mean, AngelOfDeath? You talk about them a lot. --"Re: virtuous pedophiles?", "Re: transgenderism" in children,  "Re: Dawkins writes book for Children."

What's up with you?
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM


Oh brother.  You're insinuating I'm two other users  in one post?  That is a bit paranoid, no?  and why do folks get so upset when other folks poke a little fun at ol' man Dawkins?
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 12:11:10 AM
Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to keep,
If I should die before I 'wake,
I pray the Lord my soul to take.
If I should live another day
I pray the Lord to guide my way.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John,
Bless the bed that I lie on.
Four corners to my bed,
Four angels round my head;
One to watch and one to pray
And two to bear my soul away.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 14, 2017, 02:31:36 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM
Oh brother.  You're insinuating I'm two other users
No, I only know SisterAgatha, I don't know if you know any AngelFromHell.

Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM
and a pedifile all in one post?
No, you did that yourself.

Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM
That is a bit paranoid, no? 
No. I don't think you have a licence to make that diagnosis, so your comment is irrelevant.

Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM
and why do folks get so upset when other folks poke a little fun at ol' man Dawkins?
Who is upset, specifically?

...And you didn't answer my question.

[spoiler]I hope the answer is: No, I don't have any. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Magdalena on December 14, 2017, 02:47:05 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 12:11:10 AM
...
Matthew, Mark, Luke and John,
Bless the bed that I lie on.
Four corners to my bed,
Four angels round my head;
One to watch and one to pray
And two to bear my soul away.

This is one scary bed. That's too many people in one room.  :worried:
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Sandra Craft on December 14, 2017, 02:48:58 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 12:11:10 AM
Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to keep,
If I should die before I 'wake,
I pray the Lord my soul to take.
If I should live another day
I pray the Lord to guide my way.

Matthew, Mark, Luke and John,
Bless the bed that I lie on.
Four corners to my bed,
Four angels round my head;
One to watch and one to pray
And two to bear my soul away.

I was only taught the first 4 lines, no wonder I've always had insomnia.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 04:04:28 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM. . . why do folks get so upset when other folks poke a little fun at ol' man Dawkins?

Is it your intent to get "folks" upset by poking fun at Dawkins? If not, can you explain the genuine purpose of your post?
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:19:58 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 04:04:28 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM. . . why do folks get so upset when other folks poke a little fun at ol' man Dawkins?

Is it your intent to get "folks" upset by poking fun at Dawkins? If not, can you explain the genuine purpose of your post?

not at all.  just from what i know about dawkins' personality, him writing such a book would be hilarious
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:22:48 AM


I guess a few year back dawkins said something about mother's having a responsibility to abort all downs syndrome fetuses.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:23:57 AM
 imagine putting that in a children's book
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Tank on December 14, 2017, 08:38:44 AM
I used to moderate on the Richard Dawkins forum. I have to say I am not a fan of the guy. He's very much a product of his privileged colonial upbringing. I had to email him about something. He replied but he didn't respond to my question. He replied to correct how I had used an apostrophe in his name. He's not a particularly good philosopher either but The God Delusion changed me from a passive atheist to an active one. I had not really understood the impact creationists like Ken Hamm in the USA. That said what he has done is raised the profile of atheistic thought and just how insidious theism is in the human world. So like all of us he's not perfect but through his work on evolution he has advanced the sum total of human knowledge.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Dave on December 14, 2017, 10:23:30 AM
Quote from: Tank on December 14, 2017, 08:38:44 AM
I used to moderate on the Richard Dawkins forum. I have to say I am not a fan of the guy. He's very much a product of his privileged colonial upbringing. I had to email him about something. He replied but he didn't respond to my question. He replied to correct how I had used an apostrophe in his name. He's not a particularly good philosopher either but The God Delusion changed me from a passive atheist to an active one. I had not really understood the impact creationists like Ken Hamm in the USA. That said what he has done is raised the profile of atheistic thought and just how insidious theism is in the human world. So like all of us he's not perfect but through his work on evolution he has advanced the sum total of human knowledge.

Dawkins is not my most favourite person either, he plays the celebrity tune too often but, yes, one has to recognise and respect his achievments. Perhaps in the way that I feel a few senior churchmen deserve respect for their, slightly, more enlightened attitude towards gay marriage etc.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Bad Penny II on December 14, 2017, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AMand why do folks get so upset when other folks poke a little fun at ol' man Dawkins?

Have they though? Gotten so upset that is.
You could try trying not to confuse what you want to be with what is.
Or not, your choice, it's just a personal credo of mine, I'm not pushing it.

Anyway thanks, being the local Borderline Troll I appreciate the health benefits of troll visitation.
Others here don't agree, but you guys get people busy busy on their posting, better than a personal trainer and you're free! PRAISE THE LORD!!!.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:19:58 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 04:04:28 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM. . . why do folks get so upset when other folks poke a little fun at ol' man Dawkins?

Is it your intent to get "folks" upset by poking fun at Dawkins? If not, can you explain the genuine purpose of your post?

not at all.  just from what i know about dawkins' personality, him writing such a book would be hilarious

Have you read his book for children? I suspect not. Equally, I suspect that what you know about Dawkins largely comes from anti-atheist propaganda. As you see above, he isn't held in any particular reverence by atheists in general. In fact there are many atheists who've come to actively dislike the man. It looks a bit like wishful thinking that you believe that you "upset" anybody here by attempting to poke fun at him.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Dave on December 14, 2017, 05:07:14 PM
Quote from: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:19:58 AM
Quote from: Recusant on December 14, 2017, 04:04:28 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 12:05:24 AM. . . why do folks get so upset when other folks poke a little fun at ol' man Dawkins?

Is it your intent to get "folks" upset by poking fun at Dawkins? If not, can you explain the genuine purpose of your post?

not at all.  just from what i know about dawkins' personality, him writing such a book would be hilarious

Have you read his book for children? I suspect not. Equally, I suspect that what you know about Dawkins largely comes from anti-atheist propaganda. As you see above, he isn't held in any particular reverence by atheists in general. In fact there are many atheists who've come to actively dislike the man. It looks a bit like wishful thinking that you believe that you "upset" anybody here by attempting to poke fun at him.

Yup, atheists score because they are allowed, often encouraged, to question and think critically about "authority". Not expected to simply accecpt because some guy 4000 odd years ago started writing some "rules" down in a book, justifying them with takes of fantasy, to maintain his group's hold on power. An idea plagiarised about 2000 years ago by another bunch.

Fantasy is great, I read large volumes of it. It can be inventive, allegorical, indicative of human psychology, can make you think or merely entertain etc etc, but when the book is shut that world goes on hold and the real one takes over again. As Grannie Weatherwax said in one of the Discworld novels, "It's all headology...

If you are going to write a book on ethics, morals, psilodophy, psychology etc using fables, allegory and parables at least be honest enough to admit to it.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:42:06 PM


Well I have not read it.  And I've never read anti-atheist material.  And from what I understand, Dawkins is rather the posterboy for the modern atheist movement, or at least was at one time--I don't keep up with popular fads
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 14, 2017, 08:38:44 AM
I used to moderate on the Richard Dawkins forum. I have to say I am not a fan of the guy. He's very much a product of his privileged colonial upbringing. I had to email him about something. He replied but he didn't respond to my question. He replied to correct how I had used an apostrophe in his name. He's not a particularly good philosopher either but The God Delusion changed me from a passive atheist to an active one. I had not really understood the impact creationists like Ken Hamm in the USA. That said what he has done is raised the profile of atheistic thought and just how insidious theism is in the human world. So like all of us he's not perfect but through his work on evolution he has advanced the sum total of human knowledge.

I was a bit confused about where to put the apostrophe when writing Dawkins in possessive form.  is it dawkin's or dawkins' or dawkins's?  hmm
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Tank on December 15, 2017, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 14, 2017, 08:38:44 AM
I used to moderate on the Richard Dawkins forum. I have to say I am not a fan of the guy. He's very much a product of his privileged colonial upbringing. I had to email him about something. He replied but he didn't respond to my question. He replied to correct how I had used an apostrophe in his name. He's not a particularly good philosopher either but The God Delusion changed me from a passive atheist to an active one. I had not really understood the impact creationists like Ken Hamm in the USA. That said what he has done is raised the profile of atheistic thought and just how insidious theism is in the human world. So like all of us he's not perfect but through his work on evolution he has advanced the sum total of human knowledge.

I was a bit confused about where to put the apostrophe when writing Dawkins in possessive form.  is it dawkin's or dawkins' or dawkins's?  hmm

Send him an email. If you don't get a reply you know you used the right one.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: Tank on December 15, 2017, 11:04:55 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:42:06 PM
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Well I have not read it.  And I've never read anti-atheist material.  And from what I understand, Dawkins is rather the posterboy for the modern atheist movement, or at least was at one time--I don't keep up with popular fads
The God Delusion was a book written about the right subject at the right time. There were 4 main anti-theist authors around at the time. Daniel Dennett (the one I wish I could be), Christopher Hitchens (the one I channel on Facebook), Sam Harris (ambivalent about him) and RD, I've expressed my opinion about him.
Title: Re: Dawkins writes book for Children
Post by: AngelOfDeath on December 15, 2017, 06:05:52 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 15, 2017, 10:59:48 AM
Quote from: AngelOfDeath on December 14, 2017, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Tank on December 14, 2017, 08:38:44 AM
I used to moderate on the Richard Dawkins forum. I have to say I am not a fan of the guy. He's very much a product of his privileged colonial upbringing. I had to email him about something. He replied but he didn't respond to my question. He replied to correct how I had used an apostrophe in his name. He's not a particularly good philosopher either but The God Delusion changed me from a passive atheist to an active one. I had not really understood the impact creationists like Ken Hamm in the USA. That said what he has done is raised the profile of atheistic thought and just how insidious theism is in the human world. So like all of us he's not perfect but through his work on evolution he has advanced the sum total of human knowledge.

I was a bit confused about where to put the apostrophe when writing Dawkins in possessive form.  is it dawkin's or dawkins' or dawkins's?  hmm

Send him an email. If you don't get a reply you know you used the right one.

:lol: