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Started by Wrath, July 10, 2012, 08:36:50 AM

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bisbell6

I didn't have the stamina to read all the previous posts on this topic, being new here, so I hope I'm not being redundant with my thoughts:

Giving a child up for adoption does not guarantee they are going to better parents.  You might think that since adoption is costly that only parents who had the means (and having the means are therefore fully equipped) to raise a child in a loving and sufficient environment would guarantee just that, but it doesn't.  And it's also true that poverty doesn't automatically doom children to become burdens upon society.  I think we need more parenting education.  

Where I stand on abortion: I feel no one should have the right to choose for a woman - it's her body, her business.

Curious as to what others think about this tactic by pro-life organizations: Tthere are some uber-conservatives who are putting forth laws in several states in the U.S. (including Oklahoma and New Hampshire), forcing doctors to give out "literature" to any woman seeking an abortion. Included in this "literature" are some cleverly manipulated statistics that make it appear that having an abortion raises one's risk of breast cancer, which, of course, is NOT TRUE. The truth is that women who have carried a baby to term have a lower incidence of breast cancer -- carrying a baby to term is preventative. That doesn't mean that not getting pregnant, or that terminating a pregnancy causes breast cancer.



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Stevil

Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 19, 2012, 02:55:22 AM
I'm all for government funded programs for breakfast plans at school, but parents who cannot provide financially really shouldn't even have children. I mean, it's common sense. I know it's not so black and white for a lot of people, but for most it is...
And the problem when govt gives money directly to the parents, some of them would rather go to the pub or casino than buy their kids food for lunch.

Will

Quote from: Sweetdeath on July 19, 2012, 02:55:22 AMI'm all for government funded programs for breakfast plans at school, but parents who cannot provide financially really shouldn't even have children. I mean, it's common sense. I know it's not so black and white for a lot of people, but for most it is...
Ideally, this would be the case, but with conservative religious people sabotaging even the most basic sex education in public schools (and outright banning it at many private schools), we are likely to continue seeing increased instances of unwanted pregnancies in younger people who lack the maturity and financial stability to adequately provide for children. A solution to the issue of government funding for low-income parents would be reinvesting in comprehensive sex education and free or at least subsidized birth control. Sex education is also a key measure to reducing the amount of abortions.

It's amazing to see religious nutbags simultaneously decry abortion and sabotage the measures that could reduce the number abortions. It's almost as if they don't actually care about abortion, but rather are more interested in shaming and punishing women they see as promiscuous. Hint hint.
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Quote from: Will on July 19, 2012, 03:50:02 AM
A solution to the issue of government funding for low-income parents would be reinvesting in comprehensive sex education and free or at least subsidized birth control. Sex education is also a key measure to reducing the amount of abortions.

Definitely for this as well.

QuoteIt's amazing to see religious nutbags simultaneously decry abortion and sabotage the measures that could reduce the number abortions. It's almost as if they don't actually care about abortion, but rather are more interested in shaming and punishing women they see as promiscuous. Hint hint.

That's certainly my perception of it.  They may well care about the unborn too but they're far more concerned with punishing women for having sex.
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Sweetdeath

Quote from: BooksCatsEtc on July 19, 2012, 04:21:35 AM
Quote from: Will on July 19, 2012, 03:50:02 AM
A solution to the issue of government funding for low-income parents would be reinvesting in comprehensive sex education and free or at least subsidized birth control. Sex education is also a key measure to reducing the amount of abortions.

Definitely for this as well.

QuoteIt's amazing to see religious nutbags simultaneously decry abortion and sabotage the measures that could reduce the number abortions. It's almost as if they don't actually care about abortion, but rather are more interested in shaming and punishing women they see as promiscuous. Hint hint.

That's certainly my perception of it.  They may well care about the unborn too but they're far more concerned with punishing women for having sex.


Great post, Will.

How dare people enjoy their sex!! >:(
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Quote from: Will on July 19, 2012, 03:50:02 AM
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It's amazing to see religious nutbags simultaneously decry abortion and sabotage the measures that could reduce the number abortions. It's almost as if they don't actually care about abortion, but rather are more interested in shaming and punishing women they see as promiscuous. Hint hint.
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