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General => Science => Topic started by: Recusant on October 20, 2020, 06:15:38 AM

Title: An Old Cat
Post by: Recusant on October 20, 2020, 06:15:38 AM
About two thousand years old, apparently. :nyancat:

"2,000-Year-Old Nazca Line Featuring Lounging Cat Found in Peru" | Smithsonian (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/2000-year-old-cat-etching-found-peru-180976085/)

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Image Credit: Peru Ministry of Culture (https://www.gob.pe/institucion/cultura/noticias/307390-ministerio-de-cultura-anuncia-descubrimiento-de-geoglifo-en-la-pampa-de-nasca)




Archaeologists have discovered a 2,000-year-old etching of a cat carved into a hillside some 250 miles [400 km] southeast of Lima, Peru, reports Spanish news agency EFE. The feline, which measures about 120 feet [36 m] long, has wide, orb-like eyes and appears to be sunning itself.

The newly identified likeness is a Nazca Line—one of hundreds of ancient drawings created in the Peruvian desert by removing rock and soil to produce a "negative" image in the sand, writes Jason Golomb for National Geographic. Other Nazca Lines depict animals including orcas, monkeys, hummingbirds and spiders, as well as geometric shapes and humanoid figures.

Dated to between 200 and 100 B.C., the geoglyph is thought to be older than any others previously discovered in the region. Workers identified the etching while remodeling a portion of the Nazca Lines Unesco World Heritage Site, reports Tiffany May for the New York Times.

"The discovery shows, once again, the rich and varied cultural legacy of this site," says Peru's Ministry of Culture in a statement.

[Continues . . . (https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/2000-year-old-cat-etching-found-peru-180976085/)]
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Tank on October 20, 2020, 08:06:47 AM
Cats. Being worshipped since they allowed us to :D
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Ecurb Noselrub on October 20, 2020, 01:55:30 PM
Curious markings on the tail and chest area. 
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 21, 2020, 09:13:43 PM
'Tis a dog.   :snooty:
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Magdalena on October 22, 2020, 02:37:20 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 21, 2020, 09:13:43 PM
'Tis a dog.   :snooty:

It's true.

That's no cat.

--I knew it was a dog before anyone else knew.
--No one knows dogs better than I do.
--No one would have guessed that was a dog.
--Atheists are spreading fake news about dogs.
--I love dogs, they're amazing, dogs love me, ask anyone.
--My uncle is a terrific scientist; so I have the gene, and I know a dog when I see one, believe me.
--A man said to me the other day, "Sir, you are the smartest man I've ever met, if you can recognize an elephant on a test, I believe you can recognize a dog when you see one."
--I bet, 'billions and billions of dollars' --That's a dog.

--"A cat!" Unbelievable...Really!
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Asmodean on October 22, 2020, 09:19:42 AM
Mmh... Yeah. Ok. I still prefer that thing where there is a giant penis, around which someone has to trim the grass occasionally. There is something crudely humorous about it.

...It's in England, is it not? The Well-Endowed Hillman?
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Tank on October 22, 2020, 01:02:36 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on October 22, 2020, 09:19:42 AM
Mmh... Yeah. Ok. I still prefer that thing where there is a giant penis, around which someone has to trim the grass occasionally. There is something crudely humorous about it.

...It's in England, is it not? The Well-Endowed Hillman?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerne_Abbas_Giant
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Asmodean on October 22, 2020, 01:10:27 PM
Ah, yes! That's the chap with the rod and the... Club.  ;D
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Bad Penny II on October 22, 2020, 01:42:32 PM
It doesn't look like a cat to me.

(https://assets3.thrillist.com/v1/image/2524157/1584x3000/scale;jpeg_quality=60;progressive.jpg)
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Asmodean on October 22, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
That right there. That's some sort of a overgrown Australian squirrel with an pouch, yes?  :headscratch:

...Well, the Asmo wants it.

Also, yes, that is totally the thing on the hill.
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2020, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 22, 2020, 02:37:20 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 21, 2020, 09:13:43 PM
'Tis a dog.   :snooty:

It's true.

That's no cat.

--I knew it was a dog before anyone else knew.
--No one knows dogs better than I do.
--No one would have guessed that was a dog.
--Atheists are spreading fake news about dogs.
--I love dogs, they're amazing, dogs love me, ask anyone.
--My uncle is a terrific scientist; so I have the gene, and I know a dog when I see one, believe me.
--A man said to me the other day, "Sir, you are the smartest man I've ever met, if you can recognize an elephant on a test, I believe you can recognize a dog when you see one."
--I bet, 'billions and billions of dollars' --That's a dog.

--"A cat!" Unbelievable...Really!


Cats are small dogs! :P ;)
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2020, 02:10:05 PM
Quote from: Tank on October 22, 2020, 01:02:36 PM
Quote from: Asmodean on October 22, 2020, 09:19:42 AM
Mmh... Yeah. Ok. I still prefer that thing where there is a giant penis, around which someone has to trim the grass occasionally. There is something crudely humorous about it.

...It's in England, is it not? The Well-Endowed Hillman?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerne_Abbas_Giant

Doesn't look much different from what middle school boys draw all over their desks...
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Asmodean on October 22, 2020, 02:13:21 PM
I drew Tesla-esque (Nikola - not Elon) "brilliant crackpottery" of perpetual motion variety. It took me the longest time to understand hwy my system of burning hydrogen to turn a turbine to electrolyse water to burn hydrogen would ever... Stop.

Physics. It was mean to Little Asmo  :(
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Magdalena on October 22, 2020, 08:09:41 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2020, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 22, 2020, 02:37:20 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 21, 2020, 09:13:43 PM
'Tis a dog.   :snooty:

It's true.

That's no cat.

--I knew it was a dog before anyone else knew.
--No one knows dogs better than I do.
--No one would have guessed that was a dog.
--Atheists are spreading fake news about dogs.
--I love dogs, they're amazing, dogs love me, ask anyone.
--My uncle is a terrific scientist; so I have the gene, and I know a dog when I see one, believe me.
--A man said to me the other day, "Sir, you are the smartest man I've ever met, if you can recognize an elephant on a test, I believe you can recognize a dog when you see one."
--I bet, 'billions and billions of dollars' --That's a dog.

--"A cat!" Unbelievable...Really!


Cats are small dogs! :P ;)

:grin:

:secrets1: By the way...
That was my Trump impression. In the science area.
:reading:
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: xSilverPhinx on October 25, 2020, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 22, 2020, 08:09:41 PM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 22, 2020, 02:03:22 PM
Quote from: Magdalena on October 22, 2020, 02:37:20 AM
Quote from: xSilverPhinx on October 21, 2020, 09:13:43 PM
'Tis a dog.   :snooty:

It's true.

That's no cat.

--I knew it was a dog before anyone else knew.
--No one knows dogs better than I do.
--No one would have guessed that was a dog.
--Atheists are spreading fake news about dogs.
--I love dogs, they're amazing, dogs love me, ask anyone.
--My uncle is a terrific scientist; so I have the gene, and I know a dog when I see one, believe me.
--A man said to me the other day, "Sir, you are the smartest man I've ever met, if you can recognize an elephant on a test, I believe you can recognize a dog when you see one."
--I bet, 'billions and billions of dollars' --That's a dog.

--"A cat!" Unbelievable...Really!


Cats are small dogs! :P ;)

:grin:

:secrets1: By the way...
That was my Trump impression. In the science area.
:reading:

:grin: It was perfect.
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Recusant on May 08, 2021, 08:56:58 AM
That impression of the former president has stood the test of time, I'd say.  :thumb:

Now, news of a different old cat.  :maskwink:

"Newly identified saber-toothed cat is one of largest in history" | Ohio State News (https://news.osu.edu/newly-identified-saber-toothed-cat-is-one-of-largest-in-history/)

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An artist's depiction of Machairodus lahayishupup eating Hemiauchenia, a camel relative.
Artist: Roger Witter




A giant saber-toothed cat lived in North America between 5 million and 9 million years ago, weighing up to 900 pounds and hunting prey that likely weighed 1,000 to 2,000 pounds, scientists reported today in a new study.

The researchers completed a painstaking comparison of seven uncategorized fossil specimens with previously identified fossils and bone samples from around the world to describe the new species. Their finding makes a case for the use of the elbow portion of the humerus – in addition to teeth – to identify fossils of large saber-toothed cats whose massive forearms enabled them to subdue their prey.

The newly identified cat weighed an average of around 600 or so pounds and could have managed to kill prey weighing up to 6,000 pounds, the scientists estimate, suggesting that their findings provide evidence for another giant cat, one of the largest in Earth history.

"We believe these were animals that were routinely taking down bison-sized animals," said study co-author Jonathan Calede, an assistant professor of evolution, ecology and organismal biology at The Ohio State University's Marion campus. "This was by far the largest cat alive at that time."

Calede completed the study with John Orcutt, assistant professor of biology at Gonzaga University, who initiated the project. Orcutt found a large upper arm bone specimen that had been labeled as a cat in the University of Oregon Museum of Natural and Cultural History collection when he was a graduate student, and collaborated with Calede on the years-long effort to figure out what kind of cat it could be.

They have determined that the new species is an ancient relative of the best-known saber-toothed cat Smilodon, the famous fossil found in the La Brea Tar Pits in California that went extinct about 10,000 years ago.

The Oregon specimen was excavated on the traditional lands of the Cayuse, a tribe joined with the Umatilla and Walla Walla in the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation. In recognition of its origin, Calede and Orcutt collaborated with the Tamástslikt Cultural Institute to name the new species Machairodus lahayishupup. Machairodus is a genus of large saber-toothed cats that lived in Africa, Eurasia and North America, and in the Old Cayuse language, Laháyis Húpup means "ancient wild cat."

[Continues . . . (https://news.osu.edu/newly-identified-saber-toothed-cat-is-one-of-largest-in-history/)]
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Tank on May 17, 2021, 08:01:03 AM
Mice would be safe. It wouldn't bother with mice!
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Recusant on May 17, 2021, 08:26:31 AM
The juveniles might, though.  ;D
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Tank on May 17, 2021, 09:14:05 AM
That's true!
Title: Re: An Old Cat
Post by: Bluenose on May 17, 2021, 02:47:31 PM
Hmm, can't beat that. The best we poor Aussies can manage is Thylacoleo carnifex which only attained a size of 124–160 kg (273–353 lb).  However, it survive until about 30,000 years ago, so it would have been encountered by the first Australians.