if there were no need for 'engineers from the quantum plenum' then we should not have any unanswered scientific questions.
Started by Promethium147, December 23, 2007, 02:07:01 AM
Quote from: "Promethium147"Wait a minute here - again and again, I see those who claim an Atheist Morality.Let's not get confused. Morality is a matter of religious doctrine, a fixed, inflexible, unquestionable set of arbitrarily rules from an unknown source, from which we proceed to deduce correct action. Good Luck.Thou shall not Kill, for instance, precludes self-defense, appropriate suicide and euthanasia. By en large, we all know better, and act accordingly - regardless of stated belief.This is 'cause we can figger. Can't be helped. Ethics draws us. To evade the voice of natural ethics in favor of a synthetic morality is a discipline of Willful Ignorance.Ethics, on the other hand, deduces appropriate action on the basis of minimal assumption, and applies logic (rather than mere common sense) to achieve a result appropriate to each special case - which is exactly what all cases are. The logic being found correct, and the result unacceptable, the premises are refuted, and we then seek simpler, more universal premises. It is self-correcting; it is Science - it is labor, but it is Minimum Human Duty for all those capable.But the Moral tend to overlook their most serious failures completely. It doesn't matter if my choice results in unnecessary mass human extinctions - it's what God wants. It is Mystery, but that's the way it is, Son - so sayeth the (Neolithic) Book.One great value of Ethics over Morality is that we may, by longer chains of logic, achieve counterintuitive results - which turn out to be remarkably effective. Do ends justify means? Certainly - for what are means unrelated to ends? RANDOM ACTS - nothing more.Comparatively, Morality is a Great Destroyer. Let's dump it - quick!When asked if I am Moral, I respond with a definite No - I only appear so, even exceptionally so, but - correlation does not imply causation.I am not Moral. I am not Amoral, or even Immoral - I am definitely AntiMoral. I am inexorably driven to this - by my Natural Ethics.DIG IT. Response?
Quote from: "Promethium147"DIG IT. Response?
Quote from: "MommaSquid"Morality is subjective. Ethics are situationally subjective. Very few things in life are black and white. Most of us live in the gray...
Quote from: "jcm"I think morality is more about following rules. People who are ethical care about rules as well as the outcome of following the rules. An example would be people who mistreat animals. A Christian would feel morally justified in mistreating an animal, because god has granted them dominance over all creatures. A moral person most likely would not care how an animal is treated before a slaughter because it is just an animal. An ethical person might take an animalâ€™s pain into consideration. I think most â€œmoralâ€ people donâ€™t really know why they are â€œrightâ€ beyond simply following the rules.