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Who has read The God Delusion, what did you think.

Started by unholy1971, December 19, 2011, 03:46:45 AM

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I'm about 1/4 the way through TGD.  I find Dawkins hate of all things "God" kind of funny.  Most people hate things to that degree because of feeling threatened by it.  That's how I interpret his writing style.

(On a side note, I find Dawkins afraid of debate with Craig.  His reason(s)...because Craig is "nobody" and he would rather debate a priest, bishop...and he's not worth his time..."I'm too busy".  LOL.  Words that seem to me (maybe in my bias) that acknowledge his inability to "beat" Craig.

I know, I know...this from a Christian...bla, bla, bla.  It is how I feel though.  :)  There is one person I would love Dawkins to debate.  His name is Dr. Desmond Ford of Australia.  (not unknown in the Christian community and especially in the SDA community) A brilliant theologian and scholar.  Brilliant mind.  It would be quite interesting IMHO.  He has an almost weekly talk on Friday nights...mostly a bible study type talk.)

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"I was thinking that perhaps this thing called God does not exist. Because He cannot save any one of us. No matter how we pray, He doesn't mend our wounds.

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Quote from: Tank on December 19, 2011, 07:38:06 AM
TGD is essential reading if you want to understand Dawkins' mind set rather than the strawman 'Dawkins' created by a limited number of very verbose  hate filled theists.

This is true.  I enjoyed TGD nearly as much as Sam Harris' Letter To A Christian Nation - now that packs a plenty of punches per page.

Quote from: AnimatedDirt on December 19, 2011, 10:16:08 PM
(On a side note, I find Dawkins afraid of debate with Craig.  His reason(s)...because Craig is "nobody" and he would rather debate a priest, bishop...and he's not worth his time..."I'm too busy".  LOL.  Words that seem to me (maybe in my bias) that acknowledge his inability to "beat" Craig.

I think RD has stated that he's pretty much done with debating fundies and the like because he's been there and done that, and also because he's getting daily requests form such people who just want to put it on their resume that they've been granted a debate with RD, and he's had enough of dignifying their nonsense by doing so.  Add to that Uncle Dawk is rather prolific with his biology books, and I expect he'd rather do what he does best.

I think it's worth remembering that TGD is very much an entry-level book for people who may not have much of a background in theology, religious philosophy or related disciplines.  If you've done any academic study around such topics, read reasonably widely or even hung out on atheist forums for a while then the chances are that your knowledge may be both wider and deeper than what is on offer in TGD.  Dawkins isn't really a religious specialist, and consequently he does write in a style attractive to the layman, which is more appealing than some musty headfuck tome from a Masters Degree reading list.  With that in mind, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that some more seasoned readers may find it a little disappointing, but personally I still think it is a very good book and well worth a read.
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Quote from: squidfetish on December 19, 2011, 11:38:09 PM
but personally I still think it is a very good book and well worth a read.

I'm finding it enjoyable.  I don't mind reading/hearing the 'other sides' POV which in a lot of cases is worthy.  I can't understand why God does or doesn't do certain things.  How could I expect a non-believer to.  :)