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Started by phillip1882, September 22, 2011, 04:45:29 AM

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Xjeepguy

QuoteHmm, homosexuality, doesn't bother me in the slightest.

It used to though.

I understand that sentiment. I was actually brought up to hate them. No joke, I have heard religious leaders of a church use the term "serves them right" when referring to a homosexual who was beaten to death for no good reason. The religious leaders are the ones really pushing the hate and bigotry. When we lived in Alabama, my wife worked for a large day care facility, where I saw one child in particular who was very flamboyant. This child was 5 years old and it was evident that his feminine side was dominant. so as a theist, I automatically assumed he either had 2 fathers, or he was influenced by a homosexual male in his house or maybe his mother coddled him too much. I found out from the boy's father that none of those thoughts were true. As a matter of fact, the father was trying for the last year and a half to "man him up". So the first thought in my head was how can this be? can it be that people are born homosexual? Then after actually finding out that 2 friends I have had since childhood came out of the closet, I had figured out that the things I was taught since childhood were very wrong.

I truly feel remorse for the way I treated people, for the way I thought, and for the awful things I said. It makes me happy to know I have come around to see things for how they really are.
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Ecurb Noselrub

Quote from: Norfolk And Chance on October 24, 2011, 11:13:21 PM

I have to say though, if I see two men kissing on TV, I can't actually stomach it, it makes me cringe. No problem with two women kissing though, work that one out. (i know that statement goes against my initial sentence, to clarify - watching the homosexual act bothers me as heterosexual stuff turns me on, but I'm no longer bothered by anyone being gay, if that makes any sense)

It makes sense.  That's pretty much my feeling.  What I'm no longer bothered by is what someone else does in the privacy of their own bedroom, or who they marry, or how they live their life (as long as it doesn't actually affect me, which most lives don't).  It's just not my business, and I'm all for people - and governments - staying out of other peoples' business.

Ecurb Noselrub

Quote from: Good and Godless on October 24, 2011, 05:28:58 AM
In fact, many of them thank him for bringing about their change of heart.  How is it that there isn't more of a snowball effect here?

I seriously think that newer generations of Christians won't have the same issues with homosexuality that their fathers had.  The more you are around something, the less it bothers you.  Homosexuality used to be in the closet - now it's out, so there is a desensitization process that takes place.  If it's part of the environment you grow up in, it won't be that big of a deal.  That's my prediction, anyway.

When I grew up, blacks and whites had very little interaction on a daily basis.  Now we intermingle all the time.  It's less of an issue now, whereas it was a very violent issue 50 years ago.  That's not to say there isn't still racism, but on the average, people get along.  I think that's what it will eventually be like for homosexuality.

Troll god

I think that can't be denied somebody's rights because we don't like them. I don't like homosexuality(same as they don't like heterosexuality), but I don't have the right to insult them or whatever. If nobody has any minimum scientific proof that homosexuality is wrong, then we better shut the f*** up.
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Sandra Craft

Quote from: Troll god on October 28, 2011, 11:33:40 PM
I don't like homosexuality(same as they don't like heterosexuality)

Just out of curiousity, why do you think homosexuals don't like heterosexuality?
Sandy

  

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Good and Godless

Quote from: BooksCatsEtcQuote from: Troll god on Today at 03:33:40 PM
I don't like homosexuality(same as they don't like heterosexuality)

Just out of curiousity, why do you think homosexuals don't like heterosexuality?

Maybe by "like" Troll god actually means "partake in"...?
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Sandra Craft

Quote from: Good and Godless on October 29, 2011, 03:28:26 AM
Quote from: BooksCatsEtcQuote from: Troll god on Today at 03:33:40 PM
I don't like homosexuality(same as they don't like heterosexuality)

Just out of curiousity, why do you think homosexuals don't like heterosexuality?

Maybe by "like" Troll god actually means "partake in"...?

OK, that makes sense altho the division between the two is a great deal fuzzier than that.
Sandy

  

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Troll god

What I mean guys, is that as a hetero, I don't like to do homo things. Same for them, they're homos, and they don't like to do hetero things. I don't like to see two men having sex with each others. That is the point of all, I told you before that I'm not good with English.
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Attila

Quote from: Troll god on October 29, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
What I mean guys, is that as a hetero, I don't like to do homo things. Same for them, they're homos, and they don't like to do hetero things. I don't like to see two men having sex with each others. That is the point of all, I told you before that I'm not good with English.
No problem, TG. Your sexual practices are stricly hetero. Ok. But in every other domain such as adoption, teaching, etc. , if I understand you correctly,  someone's sexual orientation (same, opposite, both, neither, rabbits) has no importance to you. Is that correct?

DeterminedJuliet

Quote from: Troll god on October 29, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
What I mean guys, is that as a hetero, I don't like to do homo things. Same for them, they're homos, and they don't like to do hetero things. I don't like to see two men having sex with each others. That is the point of all, I told you before that I'm not good with English.

That's okay. We just may, from time to time, ask you clarify exactly what you mean. The internet is tricky enough for interpreting other people's perspectives at the best of times. :)
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Troll god

Why would I have a problem with a homosexual teacher, parent etc.? Is not the sexuality who matters but the individual intellect. ;)
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OldGit

Like you, Tg, I don't fancy being gay myself.  But I have found that homosexuals can be very kind and understanding, tolerant people.  Also many are unusually talented.

Attila

Quote from: Troll god on October 29, 2011, 10:31:35 PM
Why would I have a problem with a homosexual teacher, parent etc.? Is not the sexuality who matters but the individual intellect. ;)
I wouldn't expect you to, TG. I was just clarifying what you send earlier along the lines that BooksCatsEtc was suggesting.

Stevil

Quote from: Troll god on October 29, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
What I mean guys, is that as a hetero, I don't like to do homo things. Same for them, they're homos, and they don't like to do hetero things. I don't like to see two men having sex with each others. That is the point of all, I told you before that I'm not good with English.
I don't mind watching a porno of two women.

I have never tried to watch a porno of two men, which probably shows I am a little homophobic. I am sure if I watched a few then I would become desensitized to it.

Attila

Quote from: Stevil on October 30, 2011, 06:03:03 PM
Quote from: Troll god on October 29, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
What I mean guys, is that as a hetero, I don't like to do homo things. Same for them, they're homos, and they don't like to do hetero things. I don't like to see two men having sex with each others. That is the point of all, I told you before that I'm not good with English.
I don't mind watching a porno of two women.

I have never tried to watch a porno of two men, which probably shows I am a little homophobic. I am sure if I watched a few then I would become desensitized to it.
I dunno. I've never (intentionally) watched a film of wallabies screwing (the animals not members of a rugby team) but I'm have no problems with them. And although I've never actually met one, I'm sure they're perfectly nice animals.