There is also the shroud of turin, which verifies Jesus in a new way than other evidences.
Started by Asmodean Prime, July 11, 2006, 11:40:16 AM
Quote from: "onlyme"jassman, i think we are deluded to think human qualities are improving on history.
Quote from: "onlyme"people are generally more selfish with all their wealth,
Quote from: "onlyme"jassman, to add to the above points, are we more civilized now than in the past, when people are afraid to leave their homes, children are killing children with knives and guns, the threat of terrorism and even nuclear war are looming on the horizon (man has historically used every weapon he invented), we have aids, natural disasters, famines -60,000 children, not adults, just children will die of hunger while you are in bed tonight (8 hours) -another 120.000 before the full day of 24 hours is up (W.H.O official figures) - not counting those that die of violence, disease, etc. people are generally more selfish with all their wealth,i could go on....
Quote from: "onlyme"i think we should leave the judging, condemning and killing to Him, not ourselves.
Quote from: "onlyme"McQ, i think you're right in a lot of points you make above, these were mostly shameful episodes carried out supposedly in the name of God. I admit there are things i cant understand, but i maintain that for me personally as i understand it, God is a God of love, and doesnt give us the right to do such things. i think we should leave the judging, condemning and killing to Him, not ourselves. i think if people lived as with the understanding that God is love, society WOULD improve. its certainly not improved with the gradual abandonment of God either though, has it? - since peope dont seem to have much of a moral compass, or believe they are answerable to God. i dont understand or agree with all the killings or cruelty. i truly think that the majority simply dont understand.
Quote from: "onlyme"the point im making about leaving judgement to God is that after all He IS God (i believe it anyway), and we as humans are missing a lot of the answers, for example, we have no control over our birth, or over our departure, which are two of the most important things that will happen to any of us, so we should realise that some things are out of our control or jurisdiction, and not discount the possibility of God altogether, cos that would be just arrogant for someone like us mortal and very limited men.
Quote from: "onlyme"i wouldnt kill anybody unless God Himself appeared to me and ORDERED me to do so, even then im not sure how i'd actually feel about it personally, i just dont know.
Quote from: "MommaSquid"Quote from: "onlyme"i wouldnt kill anybody unless God Himself appeared to me and ORDERED me to do so, even then im not sure how i'd actually feel about it personally, i just dont know.If your all knowing god of love were to command you to kill someone you would do it?! That's sad and wrong. Try using that defense in court. Gee, I didn't want to commit murder, but god told me to do it! :roll:
Quote from: "PoopShoot"And what if pigs shit candy?