Re: Know any good quotes?

[Extropian]

Few nations have been so poor as to have but one god. Gods were made so easily, and the raw material cost so little, that generally the god market was fairly glutted and heaven crammed with these phantoms.
Robert Green Ingersoll

[Feanor Thunder]

Fight Crime. Shoot Back.

I know men and I tell you that Jesus Christ is no mere man. Between Him and every other person in the world there is no possible term of comparison. Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and I have founded empires. But on what did we rest the creation of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded His empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him. â€"Napoleon

Socrates taught for 40 years, Plato for 50, Aristotle for 40, and Jesus for only 3. Yet the influence of Christ's 3-year ministry infinitely transcends the impact left by the combined 130 years of teaching from these men who were among the greatest philosophers of all antiquity. â€"Unknown


A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic â€" on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg â€" or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God; or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.--C.S. Lewis

Now don't get offended. Here are some from a favorite author of mine.

“To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.” --Charles Darwin

"I often had to run very quickly to be on time, and from being a fleet runner was generally successful; but when in doubt I prayed earnestly to God to help me, and I well remember that I attributed my success to the prayers and not to my quick running, and marvelled how generally I was aided."  --Charles Darwin

--FT

[Jumala]

"I believe in Providence and I believe Providence to be just. Therefore I believe that Providence always rewards the strong, the industrious, and the upright." - Adolf Hitler

"The Public is an old woman. Let her maunder and mumble." - Thomas
Carlyle

"Whoever will be free must make himself free. Freedom is no fairy gift to fall into a man's lap. What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. " - Max Stirner
I once used this quote in a presentation at my Christian high school.

From Renzo Novatore's Toward the Creative Nothing:

My Opinions

God
The creation of a sick fantasy. Inhabitant of senile and impotent brains. Companion and comforter of rancid spirits born to slavery. A pill for constipated minds. Marxism for the faint of heart. Humanity An abstract word with a negative connotation, long on power, short on truth. An obscene mask painted on the mean face of a shrewd vulgarian for the purpose of dominating the multitude of sentimentalist idiots and imbeciles.

Country
Penal servitude for the semi-intelligent, a cowshed of imbecility. A Circe who transforms her adoring fans into dogs and pigs. A prostitute for the master, a pimp of the foreigner. Child-eater, parent-slanderer and scoffer at heroes.

Family
The denial of love, life and liberty.

Socialism
Discipline, discipline; obedience, obedience; slavery and ignorance, pregnant with authority. A bourgeois body grotesquely fattened by a vulgar
christian creature. A medley of fetishism, sectarianism and cowardice.

Organizations, Legislative Bodies and Unions
Churches for the powerless. Pawnshops for the stingy and weak. Many join to live parasitically off the backs of their card â€" carrying simpleton colleagues. Some join to become spies. Others, the most sincere, join to end up in jail from where they can observe the mean â€" spiritedness of all the rest.

Solidarity The macabre altar used by capable comedians of all sort to display their priestly talent for reciting masses. The beneficiaries pay nothing less
than 100% humiliation.

Friendship
Fortunate are those who have drunk from its chalice without having their souls offended or poisoned. If one such person exists, I urge them to send me their photograph. I’m sure to look upon the face of an idiot.

Love
Deception of the flesh and damage to the spirit. Disease of the soul, atrophy of the brain, weakening of the heart, corruption of the senses, poetic lies from which one gets ferociously inebriated two or three times a day in order to consume this precious but stupid life more quickly. And yet I would prefer to die of love. It’s the only swindler, after Judas, that can kill with a kiss.

Man
A filthy paste of servitude, tyranny, fetishism, fear, vanity â€" and ignorance. The greatest offence one can commit against an ass is to call it a man.

Woman
The most brutal of enslaved beasts. The greatest victim shuffling on earth. And, after man, the most responsible for her problems. I’d be curious to know what goes through her mind when I kiss her.

[Asmodean]

"I believe in Providence and I believe Providence to be just. Therefore I believe that Providence always rewards the strong, the industrious, and the upright." - Adolf Hitler

I applaud you for quoting Hitler despite the fact he was Hitler. Far too many people I know would not have.

[The Magic Pudding]

“To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.” --Charles Darwin

I don't know if there's some subtle irony going on here but here's what Dawkins had to say about that.

Creationists gleefully quote this sentence again and again. Needless to say, they never quote what follows. Darwin's fulsomely free confession turned out to be a rhetorical device. He was drawing his opponents towards him so that his punch, when it came, struck the harder. The punch, of course, was Darwin's effortless explanation of exactly how the eye evolved by gradual degrees.

"I believe in Providence and I believe Providence to be just. Therefore I believe that Providence always rewards the strong, the industrious, and the upright." - Adolf Hitler

I applaud you for quoting Hitler despite the fact he was Hitler. Far too many people I know would not have.

Nothing wrong with quoting Hitler when it illustrates the danger of the providence concept in the head of nutter.

[Jumala]

I don't believe Hitler was 'insane' at all. He was an encyclopedic rube who had just experienced what looked to be a deliberate attempt to exterminate the German 'race' through any means, fair or foul, on pretexts obviously absurd and cooked up; who was seeing the same thing happen again. American liberals may laugh at his strange ideas; but they've probably killed less people than the ideas of 'democracy' and 'human rights'.

[Extropian]

Feanor Thunder quoted Charles Darwin..............

“To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree.” --Charles Darwin

The above is an egregious quote-mine exercise.

This is what Darwin wrote;

http://carm.org/charles-darwin-on-the-human-eye   [CARM = Christian Apologetics Research Ministries]

The Quote: From the Origin of Species, CHAPTER VI - DIFFICULTIES OF THE THEORY
"Organs of extreme Perfection and Complication. To suppose that the eye with all its inimitable contrivances for adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting different amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and chromatic aberration, could have been formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the highest degree. When it was first said that the sun stood still and the world turned round, the common sense of mankind declared the doctrine false; but the old saying of Vox populi, vox Dei, as every philosopher knows, cannot be trusted in science. Reason tells me, that if numerous gradations from a simple and imperfect eye to one complex and perfect can be shown to exist, each grade being useful to its possessor, as is certainly the case; if further, the eye ever varies and the variations be inherited, as is likewise certainly the case and if such variations should be useful to any animal under changing conditions of life, then the difficulty of believing that a perfect and complex eye could be formed by natural selection, though insuperable by our imagination, should not be considered as subversive of the theory. How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself originated; but I may remark that, as some of the lowest organisms, in which nerves cannot be detected, are capable of perceiving light, it does not seem impossible that certain sensitive elements in their sarcode should become aggregated and developed into nerves, endowed with this special sensibility."
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Darwin continues with three more pages describing a sequence of plausible intermediate stages between eyelessness and human eyes, giving examples from existing organisms to show that the intermediates are viable.

It is recommended that FT consult <http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/topic/arguments-we-dont-use> before quoting further.

It is also quite ironical to note a brief passage from the AiG site; Answers in Genesis is not willing to distort evidence or resort to bad logic to defend the Bible.

Extropian

[The Magic Pudding]

A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic â€" on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg â€" or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God; or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.--C.S. Lewis

That is just drivel, is it an attempt at irony or is "Non-Religious" the new label for theists on atheist forums?  I have gotten used to treating "free thinker" with scepticism.  Is Jesus so factual and beyond doubt that Christianity has gone beyond religion?

[Jumala]

A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic â€" on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg â€" or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God; or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to.--C.S. Lewis

That is just drivel, is it an attempt at irony or is "Non-Religious" the new label for theists on atheist forums?  I have gotten used to treating "free thinker" with scepticism.  Is Jesus so factual and beyond doubt that Christianity has gone beyond religion?

I agree with Robert M. Price and Frank Zindler; it is likely that no such person such as 'Jesus' ever existed to begin with; and was in fact invented later than the religious strains which eventually came together and were retroactively attributed to him.

[terranus]

American liberals may laugh at his strange ideas; but they've probably killed less people than the ideas of 'democracy' and 'human rights'.

I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstood you. Did you just say Hitler killed less people than "democracy and human rights"?  

[Feanor Thunder]

To save having to quote you all:
Thanks for the info on the quote by Darwin, hadn't really researched it extensivly, I usually give people the benefit of the doubt. But I'm working on that. Regardless, I don't see how evolution could have made the human eye out of chance, but I'll save that until I reach my 50 posts!
Religious Drivel? Well, you gotta understand that when I quoted Napolean and Lewis, they were assuming that Jesus did exist, human or God or both. Whether you believe he existed or not...whatever! Don't really care about your belief on the matter, makes no difference to me! Peace and Love is my battle cry!

Non Religious- Weeeelll, you gotta understand my definition. Religion, in my personal opinion, is man trying to get to God. I ain't trying to do that. Everything in my nature is trying to get away from God! So I'm not religious. You might have a different defination me.

Relax fellas! No need to get worked up! I posted 'em 'cause I thought 'em interesting quotes! Now I don't have them on bumper stickers, just saying that they're interesting!

Peace Out!

Keep headin' down your road, you'll hit either your destination or a cliff eventually!

No hard feelings!

R/S

--FT

P.S. I will check out that AIG link! Thanks for posting and correcting me on that quote! Appreciate it!

[Asmodean]

I'm sorry, maybe I misunderstood you. Did you just say Hitler killed less people than "democracy and human rights"?  

Depending on the way you define and count, it certainly may be so. A matter of free definitions and application of personal perspective.

[fester30]

Giving up smoking is the easiest thing in the world.  I know because I've done it thousands of times.

I never let my schooling interfere with my education.

A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way.

All generalizations are false, including this one.

All right, then, I'll go to Hell.

But who prays for Satan?  Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?

I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way.

My favorite Mark Twain quotes.

[hismikeness]

"It is merely an accident of history that it is considered normal in our society to believe that the Creator of the universe can hear your thoughts while it is demonstrative of mental illness to believe that He is communicating with you by having the rain tap in Morse code on your bedroom window." -- Sam Harris

[Feanor Thunder]

Nice ones fester30! That smoking one is hilarious.

--FT