Re: Should one Christian be reponsible for Christianity?

[LegendarySandwich]

Definitely not the perspective.  Simply, at the core, while I agree we do things we don't like to do, knowing sin and what it ultimately causes to us and what it did to our Savior, we are still sinners and "delight" in sin.  If sin was not attractive, we wouldn't participate in it.  If all sin had immediate reprocussions of pain and/or discomfort to self or others, we'd easily avoid it.

There are negative repercussions other than pain and discomfort, and those may take proper perspective to recognize. Consider the pornography example. It doesn't cause immediate pain or discomfort, but it does detract from the user's ability to form and maintain stable romantic relationships. There are psychological studies that show this.

Which studies?

[Voter]

Which studies?

Here's an example:
http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/abstractdb/Abs ... ?id=237566
The study cites research which shows that the consumption of Internet pornography threatens the economic, emotional, and relational stability of marriages and families. Qualitative and quantitative research indicates that pornography consumption, including cybersex, is significantly associated with decreased marital sexual satisfaction and sexual intimacy...

[LegendarySandwich]

Which studies?

Here's an example:
http://www.ncjrs.gov/App/abstractdb/Abs ... ?id=237566
The study cites research which shows that the consumption of Internet pornography threatens the economic, emotional, and relational stability of marriages and families. Qualitative and quantitative research indicates that pornography consumption, including cybersex, is significantly associated with decreased marital sexual satisfaction and sexual intimacy...

Only the abstract was available, not the full study. Do you have a link to the full study? If not, then I regard your study as invalid.

[Voter]

Only the abstract was available, not the full study. Do you have a link to the full study? If not, then I regard your study as invalid.

[LegendarySandwich]

Only the abstract was available, not the full study. Do you have a link to the full study? If not, then I regard your study as invalid.

...?

[Voter]

Only the abstract was available, not the full study. Do you have a link to the full study? If not, then I regard your study as invalid.

...?

Point is that most people here rarely look further than youtube or wikipedia, but you're turning up your nose at a real article because I only found the abstract.

[LegendarySandwich]

Point is that most people here rarely look further than youtube or wikipedia, but you're turning up your nose at a real article because I only found the abstract.

So, do you have the full study or not?

[McQ]

In all fairness, there is nothing wrong in citing an abstract of a study. Most people won't have access to the full study anyway, in this case.

[LegendarySandwich]

In all fairness, there is nothing wrong in citing an abstract of a study. Most people won't have access to the full study anyway, in this case.

Yes, but this study seems iffy to me, and I don't want to accept it without looking at the results themselves and learning more about the specifics.

[Tank]

Bump for n00bs and also a reaffirmation of my position after the issues with Struggling Atheist (aka Lier for Jesus).