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Started by April, November 09, 2009, 07:18:32 AM
Quote from: "Puddinhead"I used to be terrified to teach my kids bible stories because I didn't want them remotely thinking they were true. But then, I knew they wouldn't get a lot of cultural references - Eve and the fruit, tower of Babel, etc... So I told them (this is embarrassing because in retrospect, it just sounds silly)... I told them bible stories, but replaced the character "god" with "Wonko the Space Hamster." They knew it was fiction, for sure, and many times they'd ask about original sin or something with a "Is this a Wonko thing?"Looking back, I didn't need the "Wonko" step. Kids get fiction. They understood that Hercules wasn't a real person, but can appreciate the mythology all the same.
Quote from: "pinkocommie"My parents are about as atheist as they come and I always celebrated the holidays. Like, crazily. My parents were the kind of people where on Christmas we had half the living room full of gifts, the inside and outside of the house decorated, my mom even collected nativity scenes because the appreciated them as art. The same thing for Easter, man, we always had a HUGE basket and would spend literally hours looking for all the eggs they hid in the yard and in the house. I remember getting older and asking why we even celebrate religiously based holidays and my dad said something that I thought was really smart - The Christians stole these holidays from the Pagans and made them into religious holidays pertaining to their beliefs. Pagans celebrated these holidays because of their belief in the importance of the solstice and other sun/moon related occurances. We celebrate because it's fun every once in a while to party for essentially no reason and partying with other people is even more fun. So yeah, maybe they're celebrating because of zombie Jesus, but we're celebrating because it's fun. The motivations of people are hardly ever the same, but that doesn't mean their fun and your fun can't be shared.So yeah, I celebrate the eff out of holidays with my son the same way my parents celebrated with me, because I think it's fun. It's fun to pretend when you're a kid, so the Santa Clause thing never bothered me. My son is 6 and he already told me he 'figured it out' when it comes to Santa. I asked him what he meant and he told me Santa was like the idea of Christmas made into a person so little kids can understand it better. I can also understand not celebrating holidays because you don't think of that kind of celebration as fun, but I can't understand refusing to celebrate a holiday only because someone else thinks of the holiday as religious. Who cares?As for bible stories, I've never really considered going out of my way to share those stories with my son. Honestly, I'm not even familiar with many stories myself beyond Noah's Ark and old Charlton Heston movies. Maybe he and I could learn together.
Quote from: "notself"It is odd how many of the bible tales do not carry a moral. The flood ends with a rainbow and a promise, but there isn't any lesson on how to lead a good life. Unless you consider "obey or drown" a moral. You can dilute Christian influence and teach history and culture by reading these stories.Aesop's Tales are excellent stories and form a large part of our oral and written culture. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=a ... q=Aesops+# Jakata Tales from India are fun as well.http://video.google.com/videosearch?sou ... B0QqwQwAw#