if there were no need for 'engineers from the quantum plenum' then we should not have any unanswered scientific questions.
Started by BadPoison, May 07, 2009, 04:20:22 PM
Quote from: "mbell31"1. The Universe Exists2. It either had No Beginning or a Beginning(Most people agree the Universe had a beginning: Big Bang Singularity, 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, Actual Infinity doesn't exist, Impossible to cross infinity)
Quote3. If it had a Beginning, this Beginning was either Caused or Not Caused.
Quote(Most people agree it was caused. Can you give me five examples of something without a cause?)
Quote4. If it was caused it was caused by a Random Directionless Force (analogy: A tornado going through a lumber yard and forming a mall) or it was caused by a Personal Agent.
QuoteWhich is more likely?
Quote from: "Godschild"SSY: You are fairly smart and to think I thought you were a few fries short of a happy meal.
Quote from: "Godschild"explain to them how and why you decided to be athiest and take the consequences that come along with it
Quote from: "Aedus"Unlike atheists, I'm not an angry prick
Quote from: "SSY"By the way, if you dont know, how god came into existance, or how it is that he exists, I actually have the answer for you ( I have been sitting on it for a while, but I feel like letting it out ).
Quote from: "mbell31"It seems too often that debates on the existence of God cover outside issues such as the problem of evil, morality, etc. While these things do credit or discredit the possibility of God's existence in some people's minds, they are not even an integral question or close to the best question to ask.My question for all Atheists concerns our origin, or the Universe's origin. This is something I thought about since I was a kid but I will pose it in its more formal style, entitled the Kalam Cosmological Argument.
Quote from: "mbell31"Where did matter and energy come from or have they existed forever?
Quote from: "VanReal"Quote from: "mbell31"Where did matter and energy come from or have they existed forever?They may have existed forever, but what is forever? Why does it have to come from anywhere? I didn't see anyone here avoiding the question posed in the OP. It's just that you are wanting people to say either it happened through a current scientific belief or it happened via a creator.Not everyone thinks like that, and since you took the time to read through the posts, but not respond to any, and then just reposted the question we were answering throughout the thread is sounds like until a definitve answer is given you are not interested in responding.I don't think there was a beginning to matter and/or energy. They've always existed and it's only the human mind that has created a need for a beginning and likewise a need to have an answer to the beginning.Also, I am not in any form trying to avoid having to answer to a creator. Since I don't believe their to be a crator, either scientifically or paranormally there is nothing to answer to. I am simply a ball of energy and matter that happens to have a brain that thinks more complexly than it needs to.