Actually sport it is a narrative
Started by Sophus, November 15, 2008, 06:07:23 AM
Quote from: "Sophus"An extreme way of saying this is:If I am suicidal, should I kill everyone?I like what Lara has to say. Understanding the individual is the first, most important step. Although it obviously won't necessarily help relations with a stranger, but in realationships with those closest to you this method would work.
Quote from: "LARA"A better rule might be to ask other people how they want to be treated and and treat them that way when reasonable and ethical and only if they are willing to do the same for you.
Quote from: "rlrose328"The "golden rule" is supposed to mean: Treat people well. Period. It's not intended to apply to every emotion or feeling or thought that a person has at any given time. I believe that the Rule is supposed to be applied to actions. It's a way of saying: BE NICE.This is interesting to me... you are taking this so literally, just like we accuse the Christians of interpreting their bible literally, when it's just supposed to be simple.
Quote"An it harm no one, do what thou wilt"
Quote"Act as if the maxim of thy action were to become by thy will a universal law of nature."
Quote"Do not wrong or hate your neighbor. For it is not he who you wrong, but yourself."
QuoteAncient Egyptian:"Do for one who may do for you, that you may cause him thus to do." The Tale of the Eloquent Peasant, 109 - 110 Translated by R.B. Parkinson. The original dates to 1970 to 1640 BCE and may be the earliest version ever written. 3
QuoteSo in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
Quote from: "Sophus"Say some one enjoys receiving complements so they, using the Golden Rule, bombard another with a flourish of them. What if complements make this individual uncomfortable because they are a shy, humble being who hates the spotlight? Intentions were good but you didn't treat them the way they wanted to be treated. You treated them the way you wanted to be treated. It's like purchasing a gift for somebody that they don't fancy but it was on your wish list.
Quote from: "Sophus"I know my deeper thinking gets obnoxious to some but as someone who has a love for philosophy I cannot respect such an ill conceived rule.
Quote from: "Titan"I put that I do not believe that the Golden Rule is flawed but obviously I'm working from a Christian perspective so my opinion is going to be expressed as such. Treating others is a part of demonstrating love for the person, compassion and empathy. All of which, if truly practiced, must take into account the other person's personality. For instance, would you really argue that you don't believe people should take into account your personality when being kind to you? Of course not, the Golden Rule still applies if you put your own underlying social needs in the framework of the idea as a whole.
Quote from: "Titan"Again, Christians are working with a Christian framework (sorry for being obvious) but there are implications that this rule draws from such positions concerning man's nature, redemption and the value of people as individuals.
QuoteFinding fault in Christian philosophy would discredit God's all knowing wisdom.
QuoteCould I have semi-regretfully left it and come to atheism with out an open mind?
QuoteI think I understand where you're coming from Titan, in reference to your hope to supply us with answers on the subject of the Christian faith. A noble and respectable intention it is. But keep in mind that it is most likely the things we atheist do understand that hinders grasp of fait rather than the things that we don't. Questions are asked to provoke thinking for you not us. After all how would we prove/disprove any theory: By questioning.
QuoteI'm a little confused by your first statement: "Finding fault in Christian philosophy would demonstrate that Christianity is wrong on the question."Does this mean you ackownledge it could be wrong about one thing? If it could be wrong about one thing why not others? Seems to me if the Bible is God Breathed and God is all knowing his wisdom would be remarkably undisputable.
Quote from: "myleviathan"Quote from: "BuckAv"My golden rule: "Don't be a douche" Pretty much covers things for me.Word! That's so true. A lot of people would do well to remember not to be a douche. This would solve a lot of world issues.
Quote from: "BuckAv"My golden rule: "Don't be a douche" Pretty much covers things for me.
QuoteI find it mistifying that in this age of information, some people still deny the scientific history of our existence.