Here's a horrible thought.

[Tank]

With the advent of Generative AI how can we trust anything not physically printer before 2023?

[Asmodean]

Why would you trust the AI any less than the guy who wrote a thing with quill and ink? Either could be just as full of shit as the other.

If it's important, that is. If not - who cares.

[Tank]

Why would you trust the AI any less than the guy who wrote a thing with quill and ink? Either could be just as full of shit as the other.

If it's important, that is. If not - who cares.

Because AI will bring a capability to rewrite history to favour those that control the AI. Nothing online or in the 'cloud' can be trustworthy in the worst case scenario.

[billy rubin]

its more of a problem now because with AI more people can make more lies more convincing and more quickly disseminate them to more audiences.

used to be that photography and audio could be considered proof. now you have to count fingers and evaluate voice.

i think we need a pure speech and image act, but i dont know how to do it.

[Asmodean]

Why would you trust the AI any less than the guy who wrote a thing with quill and ink? Either could be just as full of shit as the other.

If it's important, that is. If not - who cares.

Because AI will bring a capability to rewrite history to favour those that control the AI. Nothing online or in the 'cloud' can be trustworthy in the worst case scenario.

Replace "AI" with "a quill." Seriously though. Here, I'll do it for you;

Because a quill will bring a capability to rewrite history to favour those that control the quill. Nothing on paper or parchment can be trustworthy in the worst case scenario.

[Icarus]

Current news is about an App called ClothesOff.  Very popular with teen aged boys and some of the older men as well. It is apparently an AI based program. I would not know about such stuff....I suspect that the Asmo might understand how it works....

Imagine A full front picture of a pretty high school girl. The boy takes a full front picture of the girl and the app is then utilized to create a picture of the same girl wearing no clothes at all. Of course one must pay for the app. The seller is  crafty.  The buyer can get the app by paying innocent appearing sites such as the Beekeepers Gazette.com or other sneaky money laundering sites. 

[Asmodean]

Current news is about an App called ClothesOff.  Very popular with teen aged boys and some of the older men as well. It is apparently an AI based program. I would not know about such stuff....I suspect that the Asmo might understand how it works....

He does, in general.

You could have a regular ("non-"AI"") algorithm to turn clothed photos of people into nudes. It would just need to redraw the image, replacing clothed bits with skin, roughly the same in colour and complexion as that on the face and hands. That algorithm would basically follow a dataset based on what a similarly-clad person of the same sex and similar body shape looks like naked. Sure, there are tons of parameters involved, but you don't necessarily need machine learning to predict what an boob looks like based on the contours of the clothing that covers it.

From there, machine learning does can help in making your deep fake nudes more realistic. If you re-render the same set of pixels using the same algorithm based on the same variables, you will get the same result. With "AI" help, you can re-render and even "teach" the program to tailor the output more to your liking - or closer to realism. Basically, the AI "replaces" your animator and editor (among a few other roles)

When it comes to how good such software is, however... Well, that depends. I don't know the app you are referring to, but I assume that it is on the scale from "fun" to "excellent." The best deepfake software relies on good enough datasets, which can be still images of a person that you download off their Instagram or such-like. "Fun and speedy" software relies on pre-existing and perhaps more generalised datasets, but yields results there and then - if potentially at the cost of a fair chunk of accuracy.

That said, even the best app's results may vary, for example because it's comparatively easier to remove a bikini from a beach photo and get close-to-true results, since "all" the underlying curves are already there, than it is to remove a zipped-up leather jacket and loose-fitting jeans. (By "easier," I mean "more actual variables and less algorithmic guesswork") In general, it's also a bit easier to get closer to the truth around all them "interesting" bits when thusly "undressing" females than it is males. This is simply the result of males generally having the more geometrically-complex bits more uniformly covered by clothing. Still, a good predictive algorithm with access to a vast enough dataset (thanks, porn industry) would likely do at least OK, if properly refined.

I suppose the moral of that story is, if you don't want to give AI that "ammo for realism," wear baggy or bulky clothes. Maybe one of them muslim woman-tents. Yep. there lies the future.

[Old Seer]

With the advent of Generative AI how can we trust anything not physically printer before 2023?

Considering that most folks go by first impressions we have a real problem.